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Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 7:35:52 PM   
yourMissTress


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UGH.
 
True
Real
sub
slave
 
and let's add a few more
 
bio
gender
 
Wtf?
 
I understand the need to place labels.  That's not what I'm on about.
 
You know what you mean when you are describing yourself.  You can ask what someone else means.
 
We are a part of a community made up of people who are different in very specific ways.  Is it possible for us to be accepting of others, who are if nothing else, similar to us because they are different?
 
I'm not suggesting that we all sit around the campfire singing Kumbaya.  I am suggesting that people who are capable of thinking outside of the box actually try to do it.





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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 7:41:25 PM   
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There is no label for me  except....creepy female who lurks on forums, posting like crazy and hopes someone listens to her.

I think that is called an attention whore, but then I have debates with myself every damn time I start thinking...err...I mean when my mania stage kicks in...

Shahar, the poster child of bipolar, attention seeking approval switches with a weakness for silken cords and soft suede floggers.

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 8:35:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

I'm not suggesting that we all sit around the campfire singing Kumbaya. 


DAMN.... I was looking forward to all the pain I could cause as I sing and make wonderous sounds--- ( or more commonly called "me killing a cat")

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 8:41:25 PM   
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*hides the guitar*

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 8:49:23 PM   
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*hides the mic boom set and the wine coolers*

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 8:52:53 PM   
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*leads a raiding party to seize the wine coolers, notes the flavors, shudders, and returns them*

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 8:53:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

I'm not suggesting that we all sit around the campfire singing Kumbaya. 


DAMN.... I was looking forward to all the pain I could cause as I sing and make wonderous sounds--- ( or more commonly called "me killing a cat")


ok, I have to know what "make wonderous sounds" means.

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 8:54:09 PM   
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WHAT!?!  I like Fuzzy Navels!



< Message edited by elegantalexis -- 12/15/2008 8:55:33 PM >


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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 8:55:29 PM   
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ok, I have to know what "make wonderous sounds" means.


have you ever heard a Cat in Heat and in Pain all it one...... well that doesn't even come close to the wonderous sounds I can make!!!!!

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 8:56:23 PM   
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Sure, you tell me that after I've shaved.

Wait, you meant...

*grins*

It's Strawberry Daquiri (sp) or nothin'!

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 8:59:53 PM   
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gotcha!  do your girls wear earplugs in the shower?

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 9:03:45 PM   
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I'm not just different , I am unique ...... just like everyone else.

Pirate

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 9:03:57 PM   
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Girl would rather drink Orgasms.

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 9:05:33 PM   
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99 bottles of beer on the wall, anyone??????

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 9:07:26 PM   
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I don't think it is possible all the time. We're hard wired to be loyal to small communities of people with whom we must cooperate in order to survive. Small tribes, small villages. Beyond those who we depend on, we view others as enemies, as adversaries for limited resources.

Even when the resources are intangible, like the respect and liking online, we don't say the more the merrier. Although a praiseworthy goal, viewing everyone else who is different as not being other, is not something we're designed to do.

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 9:38:45 PM   
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I'd rather have 99 bottles of beer in the cooler, and a rousing chorus of She'll be comin' Round the Mountain

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 10:15:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress
others, who are if nothing else, similar to us because they are different


We are, personality wise, apparently all of 16 main types (with an order of magnitude of variation thrown in as to the levels of each) ...
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

Me? I'm typed as ESTP ... "the adventurer", that's *my* unearned label!

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 10:31:50 PM   
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I am INFJ and this http://keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keirsey&f=fourtemps&tab=3&c=counselor

Sounds about right...

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/15/2008 10:57:28 PM   
Aszhrae


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INFJ too
though girl does not believe in such quizzes being totally accurate.

why a box? why not from right field instead of left field? short stop is a good place too? third bace (under, over, beside)? from the bleachers? why not from the score board? not even in the same ballpark? parking lot?
why a box?

*giggles*

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RE: Warning: this has been covered. - 12/16/2008 5:12:12 AM   
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Normally, I stick with the ‘I am not a label’ answer, but today I am feeling kind of thoughtful so I am going to go with a more in depth answer.

This question pretty much falls in line with the other thread that came up concerning judgments and biases; and my answer is almost pretty much along the same lines as it was there.

I am the way I am. I know who I am, and I make no apologies to anyone for that. I accepted myself and my particular personality quirks along time ago. I also realized, along time ago, that no matter how much I tried to ‘be the way others wanted me’ , I would never fit into the box that they had for me. So, I basically stopped trying to. I accepted myself, and made the decision that if others could not do the same….accept me the way I was….then it was their loss and not mine.

When I made this realization though, I also came to understand that if I was expecting others to do this for me, I had to extend the same courtesy to them. In other words; accept them as they were; quirks and all, good and bad.

I don’t have to like a person. Liking or disliking is a personal choice. I do however, have to accept that they have the same right that I do to be who they want to be.

I don’t have to like the way they live their life. I do however, have to accept that they have the right to live how they choose.

I don’t have to agree with things that they do or how they do them; I do however, have to accept that it is their choice to make.

In other words; I do not have the right to tell another how they should live, how they should act, or how they should think. All I have to do is accept that they have the right to choose, the same as I do.

My big issues most of the time is not in accepting others; it’s in understanding.

When I come across someone who believes in something that is so strongly opposed to my own thinking, it takes me time to come to an understanding of WHY they do the things they do. Once I can understand, I can accept. I can then look at all angles and come to an understanding of this persons thinking. It’s a trick I learned some time ago, and it’s one that I still use to this day.

I know you placed this question specifically towards those who participate in BDSM, D/s, and M/s; but it’s something that I think should be applied to all walks of life. People are no different here then they are on the street. I treat a stranger the same way I do someone that I have known all my life. I have learned the hard way that the labels that are placed on others do more harm then they do good. It closes my mind to the individual; and when that happens, I no longer make an attempt at understanding them.

I have seen through both life and work how the labeling within ‘communities’ can destroy. Sure, it makes a person feel better when they think they have something to ‘connect’ with; but you are losing a lot more in the long run when you stop looking at others as individuals. When I mess around on the boards here, I do not see Masters, Mistresses, slaves, submissives. I see men and women who all think differently, act differently, talk differently, and feel differently. I see individuals. Not groups. And each individual has the right to their own thoughts, and the right to act upon those thoughts in a way that they see fit. I may not agree; but I sure as hell go out of my way to understand.

And that, in my mind, is all that matters.

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