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snowslave -> Whips and diabetes (12/26/2008 5:06:47 PM)

I read that diabetics typically take longer to heal from cuts, etc.  Is there any danger to them when submitting to corporal punishment with say, a single tail whip or something that raises welts or might cut the skin?



NormalOutside -> RE: Whips and diabetes (12/26/2008 5:10:14 PM)

Nothing much to say about this that I know of.  Yes, injuries (especially to the lower extremities like feet) can take longer to heal on a diabetic.  Danger, no.



swan70 -> RE: Whips and diabetes (12/26/2008 5:17:09 PM)

I am diabetic--and if controlled--cuts don't take that long to heal.  NOW--extremeties--like feet, hands--DO take longer so be careful of those areas.  Some diabetics have numb patches in their feet.  My big toes are numb--so i can cut myself and not know. 



snowslave -> RE: Whips and diabetes (12/26/2008 5:38:22 PM)

What about Bondage, tying wrists or ankles?



SteelofUtah -> RE: Whips and diabetes (12/26/2008 5:49:51 PM)

As I have said MANY times. And I hope at some point people but down thier silly idiosyncratic fear of being judged and just talk to their DOCTOR.

I am Type II and I have No isses other than the usual that come with Diabetes. The Eyes, the Feet, the Healing of Extrimity wounds, and Having to Check my BGL all the time.

My Doctor is a Professional and assures me that MOST doctors and and have feilded questions of a questionable nature for quite some time.

As long as you don't insinuate that you will be HARMING someone it is usually a better bet to ask THEIR Doctor so that you can get answers SPECIFICALLY to THEM. Some People you can Beat the Shit out of and it won't affect thier BGL others due to Blood Pressure and Cholesterol it can be a coctail for a Heart Attack at it's worst and just a Overly High or Overly Low BGL. (BGL = Blood Glucose Level)

The Problem is that Diabetes usually comes with a HUGE list of OTHER issues that contribute to what you can and cannot do with them.

When it comes to Bondage it is more important that you know what their Blood Pressure and Choleterol is than that they are Diabetic. Because Closing off circulation and then returning it can be what triggers a problem.

Seriously NO ONE here is an Expert and if you are then I know that you would be agreeing, You should talk to your Doctor not a group of Kink Enthusiasts who don't know YOU or your Partner.

And if you go as a couple you will both get an education. Many hospitals offer Diabetic Ed and when I was there I asked all sorts of Kik Related Questions because along with My Diabetes came an Erectile Disfunction when my BGL is too high so nothing that I asked even made them batt an eyelash let alone blush.

Talk to the ones who know the Patient the best they have the answers you need.

Steel



PanthersMom -> RE: Whips and diabetes (12/26/2008 9:29:27 PM)

talk to your doctor to get the specifics on your condition.  we can't tell you whether or not things will cause problems or not.  your doctor knows you better than we do.  i'm diabetic, type 2, but what works for me doesn't necessarily work for you.
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leakylee -> RE: Whips and diabetes (12/28/2008 8:29:35 AM)

i have type II, and i do needles, cuttings, and whips are one of my favorites. i am one of the fastest healers i know, as well as a healthy dose of leather butt. alot of it comes of keeping control of my sugar and staying healthy.

like others have said, consider talking to your doctor.

lee



windchymes -> RE: Whips and diabetes (12/28/2008 3:25:29 PM)

Yes, breaking the skin, especially in the extremities, like your feet and lower legs, most definitely CAN cause serious health problems.  Diabetes, whatever the type, can cause reduced circulation in the extremities, which impedes healing.  (Increasing circulation by exercise, gentle heat and massage such as in a whirlpool bath, etc. can help speed healing.) 

In hospitals, back in the day (20 years ago) if we couldn't find veins to draw blood in patients' arms, we were allowed to look for veins in the feet and lower legs.  Nowadays, that is a big no-no, forbidden, for just that reason. 

Any breaking of the skin is like opening the Holland Tunnel for bacteria to dive in and set up house, in other words, cause a serious infection.  Untreated, or sometimes, even treated, the infection can tunnel down into the skin, and even into the bone if it's an especially strong (virulent) or drug-resistant strain (like MRSA), with time.  These wounds are very hard to heal, and many times result in amputation of a toe, toes, half the foot, the whole foot, even the leg from the knee down.  I've seen all of these resulting from an infected foot wound that started out as a small pinprick, an insect bite, a blister, a cut, the toenail clippers slipped.....

If I were diabetic, I wouldn't be taking any chances.  If you really want an eye opener, visit the Wound Care Center of any hospital and take a look at the gaping, open sores and amputation stumps that they're treating.  Most of these patients are diabetics that started with a tiny sore.



PanthersMom -> RE: Whips and diabetes (12/28/2008 8:12:09 PM)

that's how my current difficulties started, a small sore in a difficult spot that wasn't healing.  had nothing to do with the lifestyle, it was a pressure point, but it wasn't healing right.  don't take chances, discuss it with your doctor.
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andreaC -> RE: Whips and diabetes (9/14/2009 12:07:00 PM)

I am diabetic and i never had any problems healing from cuts or bruises.  I just had a major surgery and the healing went very well......bottom line is that if your diabetes is under control. i dont think it should be a problem, but everyone is different.



WolvenFury -> RE: Whips and diabetes (9/15/2009 3:49:43 AM)

Coming from a medical professional, I second both SteelOfUtah and wyndchymes posts, and add a resounding emphasis that one should speak to their physician, as conditions such as Diabetes are deeply individual and what applies to one individual may not perfectly correlate to another's experience of the disease.

To reinforce, I see MANY diabetics who come into my ER with severe infections and what are called decubitis ulcers, or pressure sores, who end up having to be transferred to the ICU or having to be admitted to one of the main floors. These are injuries which can be easily prevented with proper care and a clear head. The main point is that if you have diabetes, you have a disease which DOES impair your healthy participation in certain activities. Much the same way a person with brittle bones or a compromised immune system may choose to take part in physical activities that place stress on the body and can prove to be potentially harmful, undertaking any action must be done with the acknowledgement that your actions may potentially be exacerbated by your condition and that you must take special care to monitor your condition. As a medical professional, I would advise against any activity which would cause injury, especially one which would cause trauma to the lower extremities as this is a high-risk issue for diabetics. Even if the trauma does not break the skin, the injury can prove sufficient to place the patient in a potentially life-threatening situation.

I hope this helps.

-Leo, RPT/CPT and medical student



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