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M4STER -> RE: The Arrogance behind dominants (1/8/2009 6:43:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Padriag

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Arrogance is not elitism or superiority.  It has more to do with pride that has no tangible basis.

That's an interesting opinion.  However, while probably true in some cases, it certainly isn't true in all cases.

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It's not necessarily a bad thing, it just means that a claim has been made that is unsubstantiated.

Again, I can't really agree.  Arrogance with nothing to back it up is IMNSHO a bad thing, it is out of place and inappropriate.  But neither is arrogance always an unsubstantiated claim.

As I was saying previously, there are many forms of arrogance, it isn't as simple as saying its just this or that.  The fact that there nearly 50 synonyms in the english language for arrogance gives us a clue as to the variety of circumstances this word may describe.  A significant percentage of those synonyms directly relate to superiority, several more also deal with traits associated with nobility.  Clearly arrogance is a trait associated with one's betters.  But just as interestingly other synonyms relate to pettiness, false pride, and qualities perhaps best termed as ignoble.  I find that an important point because it demonstrates that this single word in our language covers a gamut of traits that literally run from one polar opposite to the other; from those beneath us, to those above us.

So while I could agree that in the case of some individuals, their arrogance has no tangible basis... in the case of others, it very much does have a basis.  Arrogance absolutely is about superiority and elitism.  In the case of those who truly are superior, that arrogance is often the by-product of unbridled self-confidence which cannot always be contained.  In the case of the envious, trying to prop up their pride in the absence of achievement, its a mask worn to hide their insecurity.

Absolutely brilliant!!




SteveAndJaz -> RE: The Arrogance behind dominants (1/8/2009 6:51:44 AM)

Thanks Dark & Padriag. I intended to get up today but my bed just beckons me back.

Your absolutely right about not taking anything too personally or looking for sympathy on the boards Padriag.
Just looking at the thread as an outsider makes me look at it entirely differently. If I had written the thread myself then I would be reading it with an occasional shrug of the shoulders. I know exactly why I reacted the way I did and Im about to start a new topic 'can you stand back and watch your partner get slated'?




MisterP61 -> RE: The Arrogance behind dominants (1/8/2009 8:36:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SteveAndJaz

I don't know why Im letting this get to me [:(] I think a combination of the flu and frustration.................. goes and hides my head under a pillow for a couple of hours!


Sorry to hear this.  I honestly hope You feel better, whichever one it is; Steve, Jaz or Maria?

Many good things said on this thread.

MrP




SteveAndJaz -> RE: The Arrogance behind dominants (1/8/2009 9:38:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MisterP61

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ORIGINAL: SteveAndJaz

I don't know why Im letting this get to me [:(] I think a combination of the flu and frustration.................. goes and hides my head under a pillow for a couple of hours!


Sorry to hear this.  I honestly hope You feel better, whichever one it is; Steve, Jaz or Maria?

Many good things said on this thread.

MrP




Thanks

Jaz = Maria




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