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Aynne88 -> RE: How do you view female submission? (1/4/2009 12:12:24 PM)
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I love sexy Shakti Santa.[;)]
Seriously, thank you so much for getting what I was saying. I don't hear that from female submissives so much as I do from Dominant males, the whole female dommes are unnatural bullshit. I am sure some female submissives hold that view too, how petty and unfortunate. I do agree with you as well, it is infuriating when it is harder to gain respect from other women in the work force than from men, I personally love seeing competent hard working women achieving stature and rank in all fields, but especially male dominated ones.[;)] I have no trouble at all deferring to a woman in a professional level, I actually have found that women make better bosses in general due for one to a better capacity at multitasking as well as for me anyway an attitude of having to prove a point.
As far as some Dominant men assuming all women can be or should be made to submit, well, I had an interesting experience debating that nugget of misinformation on the Gorean board one rainy day, I won't be repeating that mistake. Not the place to espouse a feminist view![8D] I think I will stay on home turf from now on Shakti!
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
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ORIGINAL: Aynne88
Thank you for letting me vent, I really don't mean any disrespect, it just irked me and I wanted to clarify what my little piece of this whole thing is about. Oh, and don't assume we slaves and subs haven't tried domination either, I like to taste all the menu items before I choose dinner.I am content now in knowing what fulfills me. Simple.
Many thanks for posting. I think your experiences pretty much encapsulate the truth about the relationship between feminism and personal sexuality. The two things are completely unrelated except in the sense that women need the right and the freedom to seek fulfillment in their relationships. The fact that someone submits in her bedroom to a lover of her choice does not mean that she wants to be treated as an inferior at work, in politics, etc. Or that she wants to be sexually harassed or attacked by strangers, for that matter.
Far too many people think that their own sexuality is "correct" or necessarily the only answer for people of their sex/gender. I am not angered or repulsed by female submissives in general, having spent many happy hours dominating women in the past. The fact that a woman submits to a man is by extension not a problem. My violent reactions tend to come from the occasions when male dominants approach ME with an automatic assumption that I am submissive, or when male dominance and female submission is assumed to be automatically correct in the workplace, in social situations and politics, etc.--that's BS.
I'm equally irritated when female submissives cannot accept my authority in the field or at the podium because I'm not male, or when female submissives within this community try to tell me that submission is the "natural" relationship of women to men, and that as a female dominant I am somehow "unnatural" or "don't know my place" (yes, these people do exist).
Overall, however, these things are pretty minor annoyances. I hadn't realized that this thread was intended to be about women who submit in public life rather than private life, or I wouldn't have made such a limited response. I would agree with the posters who say that women who undermine or attack equality of the sexes in the workplace, in politics, and in society are really annoying and destructive--thank you for demonstrating that being submissive in one's personal life and anti-feminist in public life are NOT necessarily related.
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