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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/22/2009 11:27:11 AM   
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Silly me, I thought you all were just playing.

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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/22/2009 11:29:38 AM   
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i would hate to think i am in any way belligerent or offensive towards anyone. Believe Ms S, it is definitely not my intention to be so. What am i looking for. Simply human conversation nothing more, not a beating , not a humiliation, just chit chat
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Kevin... where is it that you come into this and why the need to explain that you would not do this and what your intentions are?  Self positioning using another's situation... is rather distasteful and seems to come from... look at me.. I would never do that... I am better than that.  I am the better submissive.  Why would MsS even think of you at this point?  Why do you feel the need to say this?

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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/22/2009 2:33:27 PM   
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Those of us on the site for a while get to know each other, and there comes a feeling that maybe you can relax and be a little chummy, insightful, or even playful.  I am sure that PforH meant no harm and was merely enjoying exploring the mental and emotional sharing that we all do here on CM.  I say...if I may be so bold in the Mistresses forum...cut him some slack, he is a good and genuine person with an impish streak, but no malice that I can see.

Peace and enjoyment to all. 


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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/22/2009 5:07:03 PM   
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Those of us on the site for a while get to know each other, and there comes a feeling that maybe you can relax and be a little chummy, insightful, or even playful.  I am sure that PforH meant no harm...


But nonetheless every thread that he enters instantly turns into endless pages of non-topical drivel.  He's not the sort of person who can just post some nonsense himself, either--every single time he starts up with this he drags four or five other people with him, including people who usually have interesting and intelligent things to say.

The forum is really becoming unreadable at times.  There is a small and vocal minority who seem to love the Peon Effect, largely because they are such avid participants in it, but it really isn't my cuppa.  I've just stopped complaining about it because I'm sick of being pilloried as the Death of All Fun Upon the Earth.  Eventually I'll just give up on this forum entirely--a shame, because it's been the best BDSM forum I've read over the years, and I even met my submissive partner here.  But I guess everything changes over time. 

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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/22/2009 5:14:26 PM   
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Banter...

Discourse with a light hearted edge. 

Discourse alone can become stale and boring...IMO.   Go PforH!


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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/22/2009 6:23:21 PM   
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I apologize for my excessive frivolity, Shakti.  I remember those days of serious discussion fondly, and just as soon as I run across some discussion that doesn't involve tribute, quasi-forced bisexuality, and/or what's wrong with the Wanker du Jour's profile, I will leap back in. 

This week, a friend died after a long battle with cancer, another one got diagnosed, and a third is dealing with a loss that I am helping her with.  If I see ANYTHING that can bring a smile to my face, I am going to run at and grab on tightly.  If a thread is deemed inappropriate, overly silly, or just plain stupid, XI will let us know, or just move the thread. 

Back to your regularly scheduled whatever.

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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/22/2009 6:54:07 PM   
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I don't think that Peon deserve's the wrath all by himself.  Those of us that have taken part are not named, but he is and we are as guilty of anything as he could be.  It isn't like Peon influences us all and we fall in line.

This thread was going to hell... and a couple of people thought it might be nice to lighten things up.  I do think their motive was good and not intended to offend.  But that is me and I like the banter... it breaks things up.  Laughter is mixed with my bdsm and all other things and I appreciate when funny haha's are to be had.  If we could not laugh here... I know many who would not be here.

So if we are going to get down on one... I think we should spread that around and include everyone who jokes with Peon...  I know Peon to be sincere, smart and funny and he has really been slam dunked here where I think he was singled out and personal reasons got involved. 

So Peon... for as many who may not be happy about this, there are as many who are and if you are going to get beat up... I am right there beside you.  I might not be as funny... but I had a part in a lot of this and I do believe it was this thread... where I started it.  So... lol

If we are only to be serious around here... I would like to know... I think I will be looking for a new place to dwell as well.

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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/22/2009 7:00:19 PM   
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Louis Black has a great line..."If it wasn't funny, it would just be true..."

I too appreciate the banter and levity that we have here on the Mistresses forum.  I think it adds spice and keeps things interesting.  It is inevitable that we eventually end up with a few bruised toes and feelings I suppose.  But hey, we are all supposed to be really good at giving and receiving pain...so I suppose a few bruised feelings might bring a smile the next day.

Here's to the banter with the discourse.  


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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/22/2009 10:06:38 PM   
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There has always been banter, flirtation and sarcasm on this forum. The question is not the existence of humor posts, it's the ratio of signal to noise, and of knowing when to rein it in.

Folks, y'all just went on for SIX PAGES. Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe all this "banter" is really just a lot of indulgent in-jokes from a single clique, and perhaps not all that funny or interesting to anyone who isn't a member?

Just a thought.

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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/22/2009 10:33:51 PM   
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I don't think that Peon deserve's the wrath all by himself.  Those of us that have taken part are not named, but he is and we are as guilty of anything as he could be.  It isn't like Peon influences us all and we fall in line.

This thread was going to hell... and a couple of people thought it might be nice to lighten things up.  I do think their motive was good and not intended to offend.
Okay, if there's going to be lashings, I'll have to quickly find a play partner to take mine for me, as I too participated.   Obviously I hope no one goes anywhere, but we must each do what works for us.   I'm a collarme addict, so not even going to threaten to leave.   M

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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/23/2009 8:04:56 AM   
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One person's noise...is another's signal.  I for one have no interest in stifling discourse, banter, humor, or even wanker posts on this forum.   Tedium is part of the process, IMO.

Ms. Shakti, if you find posts such as the preceding six pages tedious, I might suggest that you hit the hide button on the lower left corner of the post profile - thus blocking out posts from the person(s) that you find tedious and saving you time. 

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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/23/2009 8:33:19 AM   
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The problem lies when the banter overwhelms the discussion, as it did here, which is why I stepped in.  If you want to engage in nothing but mindless banter, the Random Stupidity forum is over there.

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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/23/2009 9:19:33 AM   
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People need to use their common sense. i include myself in this. i think guys are easily manipulated, some want to be and thats fine. in my opinion you cant have it two ways. The Domme is a professional person. Like every other professional She wants to make a living.  If we choose to submit , we have got to accept the consequences if we submit money to Her. Shes not wrong. We are just silly if we give our money to the Domme and then feel exploited. i dont feel exploited any more because i dont submit financially
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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/23/2009 9:59:35 AM   
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Ms. Shakti, if you find posts such as the preceding six pages tedious, I might suggest that you hit the hide button on the lower left corner of the post profile - thus blocking out posts from the person(s) that you find tedious and saving you time. 


Even if you block every poster, hon, that's still six pages.  Just because you can't read a post doesn't mean it isn't taking up space and bandwidth that you have to cycle through, looking for something meaningful.

Also--please don't dream for a moment that I haven't had Peon blocked for ages.  The minute he made his first sexist/misogynist "joke" in response to something I had said, I pulled the plug; it's one thing to be a promiscuous, gluttonous little attention whore, and it's another thing to try to deliberately provoke me to anger for fun.  My temper is not a toy; the "provoking me" trick didn't work on me when my first sub tried it on me 20 years ago, it's damn sure not going to work now. 

The problem with your suggestion to block more people is that by this point, I would be forced to block half the forum to escape his inanity.  And this is to say nothing of the posts that actually represent real forum melodrama caused by his manipulative Sub Fatale bullshit.   


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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/23/2009 10:23:06 AM   
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Manipulative ? Possibly but there are Dommes here who are DEFINITELY manipulative.
Manipulative. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black
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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/23/2009 10:26:13 AM   
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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/23/2009 10:53:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OttersSwim
Ms. Shakti, if you find posts such as the preceding six pages tedious, I might suggest that you hit the hide button on the lower left corner of the post profile - thus blocking out posts from the person(s) that you find tedious and saving you time. 


Even if you block every poster, hon, that's still six pages.  Just because you can't read a post doesn't mean it isn't taking up space and bandwidth that you have to cycle through, looking for something meaningful.

Also--please don't dream for a moment that I haven't had Peon blocked for ages.  The minute he made his first sexist/misogynist "joke" in response to something I had said, I pulled the plug; it's one thing to be a promiscuous, gluttonous little attention whore, and it's another thing to try to deliberately provoke me to anger for fun.  My temper is not a toy; the "provoking me" trick didn't work on me when my first sub tried it on me 20 years ago, it's damn sure not going to work now. 

The problem with your suggestion to block more people is that by this point, I would be forced to block half the forum to escape his inanity.  And this is to say nothing of the posts that actually represent real forum melodrama caused by his manipulative Sub Fatale bullshit.   



Shakti,

I’m unaware of any sexist/misogynist joke that I might have made to you.  I’m sorry to have caused offence in that regard if I’ve done so.  I didn’t know you had me on block; indeed, you’ve answered posts of mine in the last week or so, so maybe I don’t know how that system works.  I have, sincerely, never tried to provoke anyone with a joke; only entertain them if I can. I don’t do malicious jokes.  I’m not your sub of twenty years ago.  Of course, I’m not your sub, or anyone else's, until I say that I am. 

As for being a “promiscuous, gluttonous little attention-seeking whore” – another thing of which I’m not aware is a forum that will allow personal attacks.

I had no idea that I had this level of sway over the minds of other people!  Is it because I’m such a powerful sort of person, or because they’re all such weak and sequacious sorts of people?  Perhaps I’m a "master" without realising it – a God in a Goddess’s forum.

One of the reasons for the banter in this particular thread was that it had involved some quite heavy sorts of arguments that had been taken up by a few people who, it seemed to me, had become exhausted by those arguments.  They didn’t want to carry on, but they didn’t feel that they could leave them, either.  I know the feeling of protagonists in debates like that because I’ve been that kind of protagonist both on a former forum and as part of my work.  They want a break, so they jump at the chance of a joke.  What they do can begin to feel like an arduous, not to say thankless, task.  It’s literally thankless, of course, in that they're providing their thought, reasoning and time for nothing. 

I could easily be wrong in my reading of the tone in this thread, granted. More generally, you might well be right – as indeed you’ve said now on a few occasions – that it’s me who’s dragging along a swathe of followers into the depths of levity. 

But if that’s the case, then I suggest you, or anyone else concerned, attack the problem at its source and at the appropriate time.  Please just say “cut the banter” on the given thread - or mail me.  If I really have the power you think I’ve got, then I’ll try to use it.  I’m quite sincere: I’ll be friendly and amenable. I don’t want to make this forum uninhabitable for anyone. 


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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/23/2009 10:55:44 AM   
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PforH annoys me on a regular basis, as do a lot of people on the boards.  I generally wind up forgiving him, as I do most people, because I have too many important things to do to make holding a grudge useful.  That having been said, this forum is becoming a drag.  Those even more curmudgeonly than I can have it back.  Au revoir, tout le monde.

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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/23/2009 1:36:52 PM   
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If a submissive male posting a little banter can chase you out of the Mistresses forum, then perhaps that is what should happen.  I still believe that there was no malice intended by PforH or anyone here, but hey, it's just a little internet forum.  Nothing to get riled about.  Peace. 


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RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes - 1/23/2009 2:03:01 PM   
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If a submissive male posting a little banter can chase you out of the Mistresses forum, then perhaps that is what should happen.  I still believe that there was no malice intended by PforH or anyone here, but hey, it's just a little internet forum.  Nothing to get riled about.  Peace. 



Otters, you've got it COMPLETELY wrong.  One of the reasons I want to get away from this place is because people on the boards do get it completely wrong.  It has nothing to do with PforH; he and I have no problem with each other, which you might have discerned had you read my post carefully.  It does, however, have to do with dominant women coming on these boards and acting like they're something special simply because they slap a "dominant" label on themselves, and who instead just make this forum a thoroughly unpleasant place to be with their bitchiness and lack of sense of humour, and demands that the forum conform to their standards of what they think a forum ought to be.  If you have any questions or comments that you'd like to address to me, please direct c-mail to me and I'll be happy to respond when I get home from work, because now I really am out of here.  Your post has just highlighted for me why I don't need this petty drama in my day.

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