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machismounchaine -> Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 6:24:07 AM)

I contacted a Dom in the New York area and recieved a replay. She told me what she was into and has had enough of wanker men on this site. I told her I am true to what my profile states. I have served two Mistress and because of marriage and relocation I had to be released. After having a week of texting and phone conversations, she told me I peaked her interest. Because of her past experience with unworthy slaves she told me to train with a Master several times before I was to kneel before her in servitude. I agreed. I attended Floating World, Black Beat and a few other Fetish celibrations. I found that this is sometimes the practice. I told her to please have Master call and give directions. Unfortunately due to the nature of my Job as a manager of engineering for a major trauma hospital in my state I called to cancell. I was then instructed to purchase a GREEN DOT card and place money on it and give her the numbers when done. We spoke and text daily and again after 5 days again I was instructed to purchase a green dot card. All of this was to show her that I was worthy and to put my money where my mouth is.
Ok I did it again. Again she told me to train with Master. But because he works nights, I had to train in an ungodly hour during the week. I pleased with her that my job is highly stressfull and I need to be sharp. I was then instructed to get another green card and this time she instructed me to put a specified amount on it. She told me that I really one her over and that she is torn between breaking her own rules of training me herself, while hosting a private fetish party on Saturday or attend paddles with Master, and obey him to see what I am truly made of. She insisted that I aroused her sexually with my photos I sent her, And she would think long and hard after I paid for a relaxing spa treatment. I told her to please give me the phone number of the spa and I will put it on a credit card she was upset. This was a saturday and late in the afternoon. Banks were closed. She told me I am a slave and to find away to get cash again for that green dot card. She told me to go to Wall Mart and get a cash advance.  My radar went up. Besides being an engineer I am a Former Professional Bodyguard and security specialist of which she know! I didn't think she would try to scam me and till this day I am not sure because her voice is convincing but I need to read a person face to face. I refused to go to Walmart, And told her to be a loyal slave and give you all you ask to help make your life comfortable and want for nothing is not a problem. But all I see me serving is a keyboard with a monitor. I feel as though I have been baited, and my knowing better really makes me feel like a fool because I believed her, thinking with the wrong head and deep desire to serve a Lady. Anyway she told me good luck and move on there are many men begging to be in her stable. So here I am wondering, Dear Mistress' was this a scam or is she right in seeing what I am made of in my seriousness to do what she asks to prove myself  worthy to train and be collared. Please advise me. I am not sure what proper homage or protocall to pay Mistress ,to train to be her slave..     




FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 6:38:25 AM)

It sounds like she's completely phoney, and you must have left your common sense at the door, jumping through all these hoops just to talk to, and meet a woman.    I don't care what anyone calls him/herself; we are all still human beings seeking a relationship, or something else.    I don't understand what would make a fully grown adult (you) behave in such a silly manner for someone you've never had and don't know whether she can indeed rock your world.   But if your story is factual, simply use some common sense, and along with your heart, and gut feeling, you should do fine.  http://www.collarchat.com/m_2390108/mpage_7/tm.htm

I swear though this looks like Sea began a new thread just to yank my chain.   *I know, ignore this part as it is me being paranoid.*   

Welcome to the boards, and utilize the search feature sometime, because we have common sense advice for days, almost every day on these boards.     M




MsFlutter -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 6:50:21 AM)

I'm thinking 'scam'.
 
Google tells me that you are referring to a pre-paid debit card. I'm not a male but my radar would have gone off the FIRST time she said 'Green Dot card.'





FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 6:53:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsFlutter
Google tells me that you are referring to a pre-paid debit card. I'm not a male but my radar would have gone off the FIRST time she said 'Green Dot card.'
Mine would have as well.   I didn't even know what a green dot card was.    Why would she want an impersonal/indirect connection repeatedly that way?    M




MsStarlett -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 7:01:25 AM)

The TOS of CM tells you in big blazing Red Letters on the mail page "DO NOT SEND MONEY TO ANYONE FOR ANY REASON!"    Amazing how many intelligent people over look that.

I've said it a million times.  If you ENJOY sending gifts to your Domme, feel free.  Do it because it makes her happy and you like to make her happy.  It should not be a requirement unless you have been told upfront that she is a Pro-Domme.  Even then, you should be getting something for your money besides a run around.




chamberqueen -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 7:05:19 AM)

Even the very intelligent can be taken in.  I applaud your willingness to please, but you were right to draw the line.  




Madame4a -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 7:11:37 AM)

"All of this was to show her that I was worthy and to put my money where my mouth is. "

Money doesn't make you worthy.. if it did... well, the world would be a different place wouldn't it?

I see why some people continue to pull this scam, it does indeed work.

If you went to floating world and black beat, why would you continue down the other path?  Get out, meet people face to face and don't give away your money.




khem -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 7:22:05 AM)

You're not the first nor the last to fall for these scams.

I would *never* ask for money from a potential.  It doesn't prove worthiness, it proves income :P 




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 7:42:56 AM)

So I could have been asking for MONEY all this time...  Hm.  [sm=rolleyes.gif]




Venatrix -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 8:12:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

So I could have been asking for MONEY all this time...  Hm.  [sm=rolleyes.gif]


Doesn't it just kill you how dim we've been?




FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 8:20:31 AM)

Are you going to play along or not?  *tsk, tsk*    M




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 8:20:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

So I could have been asking for MONEY all this time...  Hm.  [sm=rolleyes.gif]


Doesn't it just kill you how dim we've been?


Four college degrees, and this is where it gets me!  Sheeesh.




thishereboi -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 9:15:48 AM)

I'm sorry, but it sounds like you have been had. This advice may be a bit late but NEVER EVER send someone money unless you have met them in real life and formed a relationship. Go out and find some local events and munches. Volunteer to help at these things and meet people, real people. Then you can see them eye to eye and hopefully you won't get screwed again. Well not screwed in a bad way.




Icarys -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 9:24:12 AM)

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I was then instructed to purchase a GREEN DOT card and place money on it and give her the numbers when done.


I have a hard time believing someone would fall for this. I'm kinda wondering if the story is real too. I mean I know people who have sent money at least one time but repeatedly? It honestly took you that many times to figure out you were being scammed and your still not sure so you had to post it on a forum to get input?




Usako -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 9:26:43 AM)

So she was too lazy to train you herself and sent you elsewhere and then leeched onto your bank account...all the while not even meeting you? Hmm...yeah, you got scammed. I mean she didn't even hide the fact, like asking for shoes or a flogger...she just flat out said put money on a card and gimme. C'mon!




Dnomyar -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 9:58:14 AM)

another one bites the dust.




DominaSmartass -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 10:10:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

So I could have been asking for MONEY all this time...  Hm.  [sm=rolleyes.gif]


Doesn't it just kill you how dim we've been?


Four college degrees, and this is where it gets me!  Sheeesh.


If you went to business school, I'd ask for a refund! This is REAL entrepreneurship!

Now, to the OP, in all seriousness... you don't sound like an idiot so what on earth would make you do all of these things with the belief that you're ever going to meet or be trained by this fake person? It's sad...because if you're that willing to serve, there are plenty of women out there who don't charge and do seek someone devoted. Then again, it's hard for me to believe anyone with any real-life experience (at least other than with pros) would fall for this as you have, so maybe you're not all you claim to be either.




Icarys -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 10:27:47 AM)

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It's sad...because if you're that willing to serve, there are plenty of women out there who don't charge and do seek someone devoted. Then again, it's hard for me to believe anyone with any real-life experience (at least other than with pros) would fall for this as you have, so maybe you're not all you claim to be either.


That, I believe was what the op was started for to begin with and BINGO on the last one!




Coupleofwhats -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 8:53:32 PM)

*headdesk*




OneMoreWaste -> RE: Please help me to discern. (1/19/2009 9:11:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Madame4a
Money doesn't make you worthy.. if it did... well, the world would be a different place wouldn't it?


Different from what? [&:]

Every so often, I doubt the wisdom of Mr. Barnum, and then out of nowhere his ghost up and smacks me in the face. [:o]




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