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The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/19/2009 7:50:26 PM

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After reading rednicky's thread and several of the reply/comments; it brought to mind a convo I had about a year ago with a submissive that made the final jump froma switch to pure submissive.

The conversation went along the line of why did she decide on sub only and with her usual wit and candor, she replied she had learned that she could much better retrieve what she wanted from the relationship by just taking care of her dominant's cock as a means to get into his minset and amplify or change it.

Be it oral or just a stroking she could manipulate him even during one of his "off" moods.

In your experience as eithera "D" or an "s" care to comment on the concept?

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/19/2009 7:51:51 PM

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I think she was being hyperbolistic as a form of humor, but there is certainly some fair bit of truth to that.

The thing is, slaves manipulate all the time, it's a good thing. The issue is whether they are manipulating in line with the owners standards.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/19/2009 7:57:29 PM

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What LA said. :>
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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/19/2009 8:00:03 PM

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The cock =the pathway to the mind

And vice versa.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/19/2009 8:20:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I think she was being hyperbolistic as a form of humor, but there is certainly some fair bit of truth to that.

The thing is, slaves manipulate all the time, it's a good thing. The issue is whether they are manipulating in line with the owners standards.

LA,

Well I would have to say , yes she was/is a pretty smart lady and knew how to stay in line.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/19/2009 8:21:11 PM

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What LA said. :>
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What I said to LA.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/19/2009 8:25:01 PM

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Ok..now wait. You're telling me that a woman can get what she wants from a guy just by sucking his cock????? Get out of town.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/19/2009 8:27:15 PM

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I believe that feeding the ego is far more effective than stroking the cock.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/19/2009 8:56:53 PM

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If you give in to a man's whims and desires and you don't fight back you're more than likely to get what you want from him.

You'll see a lot of subs who come around talking about how they argue and fight with their Dom and then complain they aren't getting what they want from a relationship..well..no shit.

There was a book out a few years ago...Surrendered Wife..helpful reading.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/19/2009 11:55:58 PM

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Ok..now wait. You're telling me that a woman can get what she wants from a guy just by sucking his cock????? Get out of town.

What was it again that you said that you wanted from me?

yours

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 1:20:10 AM

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I would say that is true CP..she has you and many men figured out.we are all different but i know my Mistress will stroke my mind on a daily basis.how sexy is that?

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 2:10:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

After reading rednicky's thread and several of the reply/comments; it brought to mind a convo I had about a year ago with a submissive that made the final jump froma switch to pure submissive.

The conversation went along the line of why did she decide on sub only and with her usual wit and candor, she replied she had learned that she could much better retrieve what she wanted from the relationship by just taking care of her dominant's cock as a means to get into his minset and amplify or change it.

Be it oral or just a stroking she could manipulate him even during one of his "off" moods.

In your experience as eithera "D" or an "s" care to comment on the concept?

If you wanna break it down to basics then, yeah, keeping my dick "happy" is probably one of the girl's primary functions. Within specific guidelines, she can go there almost anytime but I totally disagree with your concept (or context?) of "manipulate" here. There's no chance I'm gonna say 'yes' to something I might otherwise say 'no' to just because she's massaging my dick with her tonsils.... No way I'm that easy or obvious a pushover!

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 2:47:45 AM

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From the D perspective, I believe there can be some truth in it, at least for some. There are a couple of threads on the Mistress board just now that speak to the very concept. That female Domination is based on male submission which is completely tied up in sexuality. In other words, the female is Dominating only because the male is getting his rocks off. It's not My way of Domination, but obviously, it is the way for others.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 4:19:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Ok..now wait. You're telling me that a woman can get what she wants from a guy just by sucking his cock????? Get out of town.

I know, this is all news to me...

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 4:25:06 AM

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I believe that feeding the ego is far more effective than stroking the cock.

and stroking his cock isn't feeding his ego? Although Telling how big and beautiful it is while you suck on it with such vigor and excitement definitely helps!!

As far as using it as manipulation? I don't really understand why a submissive would even desire to manipulate her dominate? If she wants something then she can just ask. I'll probably say yes, because I desire her happiness almost as much as she desires mine. If her dominate needs to be manipulated in order to get what she wants, then she's with the wrong dominate. But certainly if you crave from the bottom of your heart to make him happy, then that's absolutely a good way to do it.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 4:50:08 AM

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and here i thought it was the dominant's way of manipulating the relationship by using his 2nd brain (the cock) ..since most of thinking is done with that instead of the grey matter inside their head.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 4:52:40 AM

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I don't see getting what I need/want from the relationship as manipulation - he asks me all the time to be sure that I'm content and happy with him. He wants me to have my needs met and most of my desires fulfilled. No stroking needed for that whatsoever ... but I'm more than happy to oblige!

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 4:52:49 AM

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If you wanna break it down to basics then, yeah, keeping my dick "happy" is probably one of the girl's primary functions. Within specific guidelines, she can go there almost anytime but I totally disagree with your concept (or context?) of "manipulate" here. There's no chance I'm gonna say 'yes' to something I might otherwise say 'no' to just because she's massaging my dick with her tonsils.... No way I'm that easy or obvious a pushover!

Focus.

This is exactly what I was thinking about my Master... but then that's one of the countless reasons I worship Him... He's the first man I couldn't cajole, manipulate, or suck ;) into changing his mind about something.
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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 5:03:10 AM

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I believe that feeding the ego is far more effective than stroking the cock.

and stroking his cock isn't feeding his ego?

No, it's not. It's just getting him off sexually. Anyone can stroke a cock. But how many can make you feel like you matter to them, specifically because of who you are.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 5:58:12 AM

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For me to be happy, a girl has to appeal to both my sex drive and my mind. They share linkage, but they aren't equivalent. Feeding one alone won't satisfy the other.

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