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scottjk -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:14:15 PM)

Nope, no one needs to be an ass hole at all, for any reason. To me that is a sign of a lack of control. That doesn't mean that a dom has to play fair, though. [:D]

To look at me and talk with me, you'd never know I'm a dom. It's even been pointed out at one meeting that I don't seem all that 'aggressive'. <chuckle> Her loss. There's a time and place for everything, you know?





oceanwynds -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:15:15 PM)

Sir has manners and uses them. He is polite when he wants something. He also chooses when he wants to be polite or not. Arse hole doesnt make a good anything imo.




oceanwynds -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:17:59 PM)

Stella, I wish there was a way you can worn people when you are going to make comments like this. That way they wont be drinking coffee and at the computer at the same time. It would save on paper towels:)




pompeii -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:23:27 PM)

Dunno ... I may be outside the curve here (nobody is gonna get even their hair chopped off with me, so, I guess I'm not a true a-hole Dom in their book) ... but to me ... a Dom or Top need only the confidence and action necessary to command attention ... 




agirl -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:35:36 PM)

Yerp. Delivery is in the eye of the beholder....lol

Let's face it , some people WANT to be barked at and ordered around with specific commands. It makes them squirm in all the nice ways. It does mine sometimes, even though I want to balk on occasion.

* A coffee would be nice*.........carries as much weight as *Get me a coffee* depending on who you're with...lol

agirl






feydeplume -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:36:44 PM)

Doms and Dommes for that matter, come in all sizes and flavors. Some are rough talking burly men, some wear brooks brothers suits and were raised to be polite to the servants. Some are dreamers and some are doers. Some have to be polite all day and kiss ass in the corporate world, some own thier own business and have other people to kiss their ass. Some a placid yoga doing meditators, some box.

I can't imagine that all these D would have the same verbal approach to interactions with a s. It seems totally wonky to me to think they would. OP, if it was an s that said it, then you aren't their flavor and move on. If it was a D then you weren't doing it the way they do it and for whatever reason (insecurity, twooism, competition, being a ass, whatever), it made them twitch.

Good luck. I know a lot of Ds that have had to struggle with the idea that they HAD to be jerks to be dommy and were so relieved and able to move on to relationships once they got over that idea. I have also seen it go the other way where they had to get over social training to be nice, helpful, self-abasing to find their own path to power and control. It is no easier for someone to accept their inner D than it is for some to accept their inner s.




windchymes -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:41:59 PM)

Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom?
 
 
No, but by some people's definition of "true dom", apparently it helps.




GoddessTeaze -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:42:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pompeii

Dunno ... I may be outside the curve here (nobody is gonna get even their hair chopped off with me, so, I guess I'm not a true a-hole Dom in their book) ... but to me ... a Dom or Top need only the confidence and action necessary to command attention ... 

Not even cut their hair?or never let her wear clothes, and never let her speak to friends or family again, nor chop off her clit?
I thought you were very wild !!
[sm=insane.gif]
Warm Greetingz

GoddezzT`




Opalescence -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:46:20 PM)

An order is an order, regardless.

If my would be Owner told me or asked me to do something it'd be done with a smile. I don't care what shape it takes, it's still just as important.





agirl -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:53:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Opalescence

An order is an order, regardless.

If my would be Owner told me or asked me to do something it'd be done with a smile. I don't care what shape it takes, it's still just as important.




I can't say I'd always do it with a smile....but that has never been a requirement....grin






antipode -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 2:58:54 PM)

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who said that I was not a true Dom


There is no such thing... a dom is somebody who dominates, not somebody that behaves in a certain fashion.




Opalescence -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 3:02:25 PM)

Well, sometimes the smile resembles a scowl but, what can ya do? [:D]




agirl -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 3:32:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Opalescence

Well, sometimes the smile resembles a scowl but, what can ya do? [:D]


I sometimes wish it was limited to my facial gymnastics....... but my body betrays me ...lol

agirl






CatdeMedici -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 3:51:07 PM)

when I see these posts, I think of them as billboard ads--hey I am xx or hey I am not xx and I want to say--pff grow up and do the search process as we all do-----
 
I am not an ass--I am secure, confident and focused---if a sub thinks that makes Me an asshole--well screw ya---however, if I am perceived as this or that--well hey--pfftt it is what it  is--until they are My sub, they are any sub--I don't command to get respect, I am what I am.




MsFlutter -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 4:10:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: oceanwynds

Stella, I wish there was a way you can worn people when you are going to make comments like this. That way they wont be drinking coffee and at the computer at the same time. It would save on paper towels:)


I'm agreeing with this LOL - that deadpan 'never see it coming' approach is awesome and I laugh out loud but Pepsi BURNS when it exits thru the nose !!




MsFlutter -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 4:18:47 PM)

I cant remember who said it but the best way I've ever seen it expressed was along the lines of "just because whatever I say is bracketed with 'please' and 'thank you', its no less an order'.
 
There is no reason for lack of civility. Well, okay, one I can think of - but they started it !




dreamerdreaming -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 4:19:28 PM)

I was raised to be polite, and I like being polite and treating others with respect. So I made sure that one of the first things I taught my boy was that many or most of my requirements will likely be phrased as polite requests, but they are to be understood as orders.





YourhandMyAss -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 4:23:07 PM)

LOL. No, not listening to others definitions of a " true dom" helps.[:D]
quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes

Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom?
 
 
No, but by some people's definition of "true dom", apparently it helps.




VampiresLair -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 4:31:26 PM)

I personally believe that a Dom who NEEDS to scream, demand and cant ask for something civilly is not as dominant as they seem to think. I can ask for what I want, but there isnt a question whether or not he is going to actually do it.  However, were I to shout, scream and bark orders, I would likely get laughed at rather than obeyed.

DV 




kallisto -> RE: Do you have to be an arse hole to be a Dom? (1/24/2009 4:56:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WiseCracknSadist

Does one have to command to earn the respect and submission of a sub or can one be a Dom by exercising control and civility?


Yes, one has to command the respect and submission of a sub and yes it can be done by exercising control and civility. 

Granted each one of us responds differently.  But in my own opinion (and experience), I respond to control and civility.   I certainly don't expect a "please, thank you or would you" at every turn, but I don't expect hollaring, yelling, belittling, or barking out orders at every turn either.   A look, a touch, or a statement with confidence, control, and respect for Himself is what I need. 





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