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fldrkhorse -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 3:50:40 AM)
Hmmm, I'm gonna give everyone the benefit of the doubt here. For the sake of arguement let's say the sub had good intentions. That for whatever reason he thought this is what he wanted to do and thought this service would fulfill his need. I say to subs all the time, "know what you're looking for, or atleast what you're not looking for." This sounds like someone whose inexpereinced in understanding himself, his wants, needs, desires, and limitations. And perhaps his expectation and definition of service was different. Perhaps if he was patient he could have eventually found what he was looking for. But we live in a society of instant gratification. I want it, I want it all, I want it all NOW. It is unfortunate that very few work towards anything anymore, that we put forth the time, effort, and hard work to achivement. I am a steadfast believer every sub must know and understand their need, that is the only way a Dom can fulfill it.

MHOO314 -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 6:31:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fldrkhorse Hmmm, I'm gonna give everyone the benefit of the doubt here. For the sake of arguement let's say the sub had good intentions. That for whatever reason he thought this is what he wanted to do and thought this service would fulfill his need. I say to subs all the time, "know what you're looking for, or atleast what you're not looking for." This sounds like someone whose inexpereinced in understanding himself, his wants, needs, desires, and limitations. And perhaps his expectation and definition of service was different. Perhaps if he was patient he could have eventually found what he was looking for. But we live in a society of instant gratification. I want it, I want it all, I want it all NOW. It is unfortunate that very few work towards anything anymore, that we put forth the time, effort, and hard work to achivement. I am a steadfast believer every sub must know and understand their need, that is the only way a Dom can fulfill it. Nicely said and I am going to add, hopefully not taken from arrogance, so many wait forever to meet someone "real", it may have been "subglow" as well, so excited to have a real Domme there, that instant gratification over came intelligent logic and reason.

slavejali -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 7:12:24 AM)
i think its ignorant to think anyone proposing a purely housecleaning service to a Dominant is only after wanting to clean their toilet or pick up their clothes etc. Like sure, Dominants can let their ego go wild thinking someone would want to do that for them with nothing in return...but the reality is very different. Might work on a short term basis...thats all. If he had such a keen interest in housecleaning, he coulda cleaned anyones house, why would he even seek out a Dominant to do housecleaning for in the first place?

veronicaofML -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 8:10:22 AM)
Yeah, it's that no strings housecleaning thing... I'm a very trusting person, but I haven't got a grip on no strings service yet; it's one of those I'll believe it when I see it. M =========== AGAIN----------"I" am the ONLY one "I" have found that does it..

MHOO314 -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 8:22:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: veronicaofML Yeah, it's that no strings housecleaning thing... I'm a very trusting person, but I haven't got a grip on no strings service yet; it's one of those I'll believe it when I see it. M =========== AGAIN----------"I" am the ONLY one "I" have found that does it.. Yes veronica, I have to begin to believe you are--so we would like to have your Mistress clone you, have your clone ready to ship by end of the month--smiles Seriously, My question though is how did She find you? what was it you advertised versus what was She looking for? I'd personally like to be educated on--

stef -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 8:26:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: veronicaofML AGAIN----------"I" am the ONLY one "I" have found that does it.. Another shining illustration of how what you believe to be the truth and the truth don't necessarily overlap, or even share a time zone. How are you coming along on finding those websites with the "rules of the lifestyle" anyway? ~stef

veronicaofML -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 8:30:10 AM)
Yes veronica, I have to begin to believe you are--so we would like to have your Mistress clone you, have your clone ready to ship by end of the month--smiles Seriously, My question though is how did She find you? what was it you advertised versus what was She looking for? I'd personally like to be educated on-- ========== She found me HERE on collar me yeah..i advertised for a domme and she wrote me 1st She was looking for---SERVICE

veronicaofML -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 8:32:46 AM)
How are you coming along on finding those websites with the "rules of the lifestyle" anyway? ~stef ======== go back to THAT convo--THAT was settled THERE...

veronicaofML -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 8:35:43 AM)
Another shining illustration of how what you believe to be the truth and the truth don't necessarily overlap, or even share a time zone. ============== so lemme guess/// you are callin me a damned liar? if you can friggen PROVE i am a lie...i will kiss your ass on main street in rush hour

stef -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 9:31:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: veronicaofML so lemme guess/// you are callin me a damned liar? I don't think you're a liar, per se. Deluded would be more a more accurate term since you appear to believe the pablum you spew about how unique and special you are no matter how many others come forward to illustrate that you're not. If anything, you're only lying to yourself. quote: if you can friggen PROVE i am a lie...i will kiss your ass on main street in rush hour Please, I just ate. quote: go back to THAT convo--THAT was settled THERE... "i know i found somewhere.......and cant find it right now dammit...there was 'a' site..that stated to be a real sub/slave..these are the rules to be a real dominant..these are the rules of d/s" If by "settled" you mean that you disappeared without ever offering any substantiation for claims like the above from that thread, I suppose that it was "settled" in your mind. ~stef

veronicaofML -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 9:47:49 AM)
"i know i found somewhere.......and cant find it right now dammit...there was 'a' site..that stated to be a real sub/slave..these are the rules to be a real dominant..these are the rules of d/s" If by "settled" you mean that you disappeared without ever offering any substantiation for claims like the above from that thread, I suppose that it was "settled" in your mind. ~stef ==================== look at the rest of the convo's there kid. and i am not deluded... "I" give total unattached service no sex no s/m no romantic shit no bonding i am not attached to any human on this planet i am what i say i am..just because YOU are too stupid to grasp the concept and reality.

artglfr -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 9:57:54 AM)
Having done something almost like this myself, BEGGING, Yes begging to serve a Lady i had known and served and suffered for repeatedly, i naively thought She would read my mind...(don't all subbies expect this? It takes mistakes and time to learn that if Dommes do read minds they often pretend They don't) and realize that i also wished to be in her presence, be at her Feet and experience what She would enjoy doing as a Domme. Surprise, i wound up doing chores, lawn work, shopping, , washing car and on and on with no Thanks and always a complaint about the job i had done. She wanted everything done exactly in such a way and to this day i have never been able to Please Her and get things done as She wishes...i think She changes Her mind just to keep me off balance which is Her perogative but i began to feel misused and to resent Her which is something neither of us wanted. at the time i was too inexperienced to COMMUNICATE my needs, wants and expectations so many times i would not be happy and leave unfulfilled which naturally She noticed. Eventually i started mentioning that i felt She was not helping me be fulfilled as a subbie and that apparently i was just Not suited to Only doing Her chores with no reward. Voila!!! Life improved...my ass got RED, my tongue got sore and Her house shined!!!

MysticalPhoenix -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 9:59:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: veronicaofML "I" give total unattached service no sex no s/m no romantic shit no bonding Please add my name to the list of those requesting a clone. I would also appreciate hearing any advice, insight, etc., you may have to offer to anyone looking for, or having found, a service-only submissive/slave. I was hoping that you'd post to this thread, your point of view as a person interested in just providing service is invaluable. How about some ideas on how to tell whether or not the potential SOS is interested in just service-only, or is using their offer as a foot in the door to get whatever other activities they want from the Dominant? Some suggestions on the "care and feeding" of an SOS might be of interest as well. Phoenix

MHOO314 -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 10:13:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: I would also appreciate hearing any advice, insight, etc., you may have to offer to anyone looking for, or having found, a service-only submissive/slave. I was hoping that you'd post to this thread, your point of view as a person interested in just providing service is invaluable. How about some ideas on how to tell whether or not the potential SOS is interested in just service-only, or is using their offer as a foot in the door to get whatever other activities they want from the Dominant? Some suggestions on the "care and feeding" of an SOS might be of interest as well. Phoenix Thank you so much for this addition, I have heard allegedly about Dommes who have service only submissives, They make a call, they want coffee from such and such and it is delivered, Domme unseen and they leave-- veronica is the only one I have had the pleasure to communicate with that is a service only sub because that is the dynamic he needs---- when you read an excerpt from the profile of the sub --here is what is quoted: "I aim to please, and am a natural sub." "As we all know, natural subs yearn for these opportunities. ... aim to please. Moderate pain, humiliation, forced service, pleasing, and even housework are some of my qualities. So I am with Mystical.. what is the care and feeding? How does one tell or does one assume there are always alterior motives? And thank you to everyone this dialogue has been very interesting---if we can't learn we stop growing.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 10:21:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MHOO314 So I am with Mystical.. what is the care and feeding? How does one tell or does one assume there are always alterior motives? The proof is in the pudding on this one. I've never met a solely service oriented submissive, but I have met some who were damn near close and I certainly believe they exist. For me I would simply consider maintenence. Your house and belongings need regular maintenence but that maintenence will change and regular upgrades will be necessary towards that. Depending on your own needs, you could keep them busy forever really (or at least I could and I don't even own a house or yard). Slaves need to be respected for who they are. A service slave provides good service and should be respected for such. Cooking, cleaning, organizing should all be appreciated just as you would appreciate a good orgasm or massage. Giving them increased duties, overseer duties, or loaning them out to friends are all great rewards for someone who is service oriented. Depending on if you have a social relationship with the submissive, your other interactions may vary widely. But if they are service oriented and engage in a relationship solely to provide service, you respect it and allow that to grow.

Chaingang -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 10:33:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: veronicaofML AGAIN----------"I" am the ONLY one "I" have found that does it... And for those of us that have read some of veronicaofML posts we know that it can't be quite the way veronicaofML presents it today. veronicaofML has made a significant point in the recent past of moving on if he doesn't get what he wants - whatever that is. So while there may be very few strings attached to his service, there are at least some, right? And anyway, I don't even see that as unreasonable. Everyone has things that they want, I'd say its part of the human condition. There are people that are very altruistic, but they still want things too.

stef -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 10:33:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: veronicaofML look at the rest of the convo's there kid. I have. Nowhere after the quote above did you ever produce one shred of corroboration that such "rules" existed. Please feel free to point out where I'm mistaken. To use one of your favorite phrases, put up or shut up, wolfie. quote: and i am not deluded... If you're not simply deluding yourself, then you're willfully ignoring those that have come forth to say you're not the only service submissive out there. If that's the case, then you are a liar and you're deluding yourself. Just because they don't post on a daily basis to thump their chests and bellow like orangutans, it doesn't mean that they're not out there. You claim that you come with "no strings" yet you seek, on almost a daily basis, affirmation from others about how selfless and pure your service is. If you were doing it solely for the sake of service, you wouldn't need that. Service is it's own reward. Then again, you could just be making all of this up and your "Mistress Laura" is purely a figment of your peerless imagination. quote: "I" give total unattached service no sex no s/m no romantic shit no bonding i am not attached to any human on this planet That's nice. Do you have that programmed as a macro? quote: i am what i say i am..just because YOU are too stupid to grasp the concept and reality. I doubt that few people here will ever grasp "reality" as you see it. That's not necessarily a bad thing. ~stef

veronicaofML -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 11:07:52 AM)
I would also appreciate hearing any advice, insight, etc., you may have to offer to anyone looking for, or having found, a service-only submissive/slave. I was hoping that you'd post to this thread, your point of view as a person interested in just providing service is invaluable. === *******advice? yeah...be SURE ya aint got another do-me boy.. they talk shit about all the sex n s/m play...but they WONT talk about...do ya have a yard needs done..or a roof needs done..or a house needs cleaned... ya oughta SEE the b.s. "boys" ask MY Mistress on IM! How about some ideas on how to tell whether or not the potential SOS is interested in just service-only, or is using their offer as a foot in the door to get whatever other activities they want from the Dominant? Some suggestions on the "care and feeding" of an SOS might be of interest as well. == care and feeding of what/whom? please explain. i have NO idea what you are talkin 'bout here. Phoenix

veronicaofML -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 11:09:52 AM)
That's nice. Do you have that programmed as a macro? ======= yep pretty much. i am what i am...programmed by my 1st domme to do JUST SERVICE...ya betcha.

veronicaofML -> RE: Service- Be careful what you ask for (1/12/2006 11:12:40 AM)
And for those of us that have read some of veronicaofML posts we know that it can't be quite the way veronicaofML presents it today. veronicaofML has made a significant point in the recent past of moving on if he doesn't get what he wants - whatever that is. So while there may be very few strings attached to his service, there are at least some, right? what "I" want is to be left the hell alone...NO attachments...NO sex...NO s/m---NO romantic shit........if i cant get SERVICE only ..then whomever is NOT the right domme...so yeah--i move on..just like my 3 wives moved on...EVERYONE moves-on... take care if'n ya can.

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