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kittinSol -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/17/2009 9:11:21 PM)

A new war should ensure that all these people become gainfully employed [:(] .




MzMia -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/17/2009 9:17:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

A new war should ensure that all these people become gainfully employed [:(] .


I doubt it kittin, this is not the 1940's!
Why not outsource many of our defense contracts also?


Outsourcing defense contracts - Washington Times




popeye1250 -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/17/2009 9:33:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Quit believing in the myth of the global economy. That is if you want any particular country to build and hold a stable economy.

That fallacy has come home to roost to bite us in the ass.

Our industrialists decided that immediate profit increase was all that was important. They did not foresee the time when there would not be a market for their goods at their previous prices. This because the people that were purchasing them no longer have the expendable income…because they lost their jobs when industry was moved from the country.

Now they are faced with ruin…and begging tax money from the very people they screwed.

I think China has the right idea… When greedy industrialist does something to threaten their economy… they execute them.

Excuse me but I’m feeling extreme today.

Butch the Barbarian




Wonderful post!
How did I miss this one?
I bet if/when we ever build our country BACK up, we won't be so

damn quick to sit back and allow it to happen, again.


Butch, that's called cannibalising your own markets.




subrob1967 -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/18/2009 4:22:45 AM)

Raise taxes and hire everyone not working to fill government positions.




SIRLOINSTEAK -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/18/2009 5:01:39 AM)

Fire Obama.....or have him give up presidency to Take second spot.  Joe Biden is more respectable imho.  Who is going to respect anyone who isn't patriotic, who says one thing and does another, and promises change when change is inevitable.  Change you can believe in?  I say we make a half cent and put Obama's mug on it!  This half cent should probably be made mostly of TIN or some other worthless metal.....




slvemike4u -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/18/2009 5:17:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SIRLOINSTEAK

Fire Obama.....or have him give up presidency to Take second spot.  Joe Biden is more respectable imho.  Who is going to respect anyone who isn't patriotic, who says one thing and does another, and promises change when change is inevitable.  Change you can believe in?  I say we make a half cent and put Obama's mug on it!  This half cent should probably be made mostly of TIN or some other worthless metal.....
Seems like a well thought out plan to me...[8|]




SIRLOINSTEAK -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/18/2009 5:22:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: SIRLOINSTEAK

Fire Obama.....or have him give up presidency to Take second spot.  Joe Biden is more respectable imho.  Who is going to respect anyone who isn't patriotic, who says one thing and does another, and promises change when change is inevitable.  Change you can believe in?  I say we make a half cent and put Obama's mug on it!  This half cent should probably be made mostly of TIN or some other worthless metal.....
Seems like a well thought out plan to me...[8|]


Well, its probably only a quarter-baked.....(not quite half-baked, like the movie)

We need more cooks working out the minor details ->  Iron it out....

I'd probably run for Prez on the idea of doing nothing, but I wouldn't want anyone to see my face cause then they'd want to work on the quarter cent, and put my "MUG" on it.  GAH!!  After the idea of the half-cent worked so well.....




Lucylastic -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/18/2009 5:24:24 AM)

Put Bush back in the whitehouse!!!!!!!!!!! that will do it.

Lucy




slvemike4u -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/18/2009 5:35:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SIRLOINSTEAK

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: SIRLOINSTEAK

Fire Obama.....or have him give up presidency to Take second spot.  Joe Biden is more respectable imho.  Who is going to respect anyone who isn't patriotic, who says one thing and does another, and promises change when change is inevitable.  Change you can believe in?  I say we make a half cent and put Obama's mug on it!  This half cent should probably be made mostly of TIN or some other worthless metal.....
Seems like a well thought out plan to me...[8|]


Well, its probably only a quarter-baked.....(not quite half-baked, like the movie)

We need more cooks working out the minor details ->  Iron it out....

I'd probably run for Prez on the idea of doing nothing, but I wouldn't want anyone to see my face cause then they'd want to work on the quarter cent, and put my "MUG" on it.  GAH!!  After the idea of the half-cent worked so well.....
Or,and here's a thought, we could just reject it out of hand.




slvemike4u -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/18/2009 5:36:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Put Bush back in the whitehouse!!!!!!!!!!! that will do it.

Lucy

Your not being very helpful this morning Lucy




Lucylastic -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/18/2009 5:57:48 AM)

oooooh Im sposed to be helping???? dammit, I thought it was my day to be a sarcastic bitch, I musta gotton out of bed the wrong side
wanders off to get an attitude alignment.
I might be back
happy sunny saturday morning to you Mike:)




slvemike4u -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/18/2009 6:27:03 AM)

And to You Dear Lady,by the way sarcastic bitch day is all good




gman992 -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/23/2009 11:41:08 PM)

Stop regulating and taxing people who create jobs--ie rich people--so that they can grow and great new ones.

No poor person ever gave me a job!




Owner59 -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/23/2009 11:44:01 PM)

The middle class gave you a job,as well as an income source for rich people.

The rich did quite well under the Clinton rates.

But if you want,sent them some of your money to compensate their loss.




DarkSteven -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/24/2009 3:50:36 AM)

The question, as posed, implies that unemployment is being increased from its correct value, and that some tactic will be needed to return it to its rightful state.  I disagree with that premise.

IMO, the real problem is that a bubble occurred, which essentially created lots of money without anything to back it up.  This "fake money" was spent in various ways, goosing the economy.  A lot of this fake money has vanished, and with it the goose.  The higher unemployment is an unwanted side effect of the resultant contraction.

My "solution" is for the government to continue what it has done before - use social programs such as unemployment insurance, but at a higher rate than before.  This will permit people to get a safety net but continue to look for work.  I think that we may be in a transition to a new world with fewer, less-paying jobs.

Oh, yeah, and also the government can rejigger the unemployment numbers and change how they're calculated so they look better.  That has been done before.




MarsBonfire -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/24/2009 5:32:15 AM)

Yeah... let's let the rich off from paying their fair share... that'll balloon the national debt, change the budget deficit into an ever bigger chasm, triggering the banks to be more cagy with credit... foreclosures begin, and the whole thing unravels again....

Oh, and the rich? They'll take all the tax breaks you give them, and take their businesses overseas. (Like they have been since 94.)





blacksword404 -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/26/2009 7:51:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

IMO, the real problem is that a bubble occurred, which essentially created lots of money without anything to back it up.  This "fake money" was spent in various ways, goosing the economy.  A lot of this fake money has vanished, and with it the goose.  The higher unemployment is an unwanted side effect of the resultant contraction.



And who created this particular bubble? Who created the other bubbles? The bubbles all seem to have the same result. It's a con game. The bubble is set up people are suckered in because of all the profits they see others making and get in. They make money for a while. Bring in their friends. Then the rug is pulled out from under them. They lose huge sums of money. The con artist move on and set up the new bubble. We did oil and houses now what?

Who made off with the money?




MzMia -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/26/2009 7:54:36 PM)

At the end of the day, unemployment is still going up with NO end in sight.
What is the answer?

Maybe the answer is, there are going to be many people without work for a long, long time.

In my world, the answer is to figure out a way to create thousands of long-term, stable and meaningful J O B S and soon. 

 
Once created, maybe we will actually keep them in this country this time!
Imagine that!
[sm=sigh.gif]




Aneirin -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/27/2009 5:59:32 AM)

As unemployment rises, people get dissatisfied and start looking harder at the leaders, big problems for those that govern, but beware a rise in security personnel, with a dissatisfied country, there may be a rise in the requirement for security staff, so more jobs, but at what price and where is the extra security to be employed.




Tigerbomb416 -> RE: Unemployment is Up in all 50 States! What is the solution? (4/27/2009 6:14:37 AM)

Well my thoughs are that Lord Obama should have waived all payroll income taxes,that way we the people can keep the monies in our own pockets. Just think what you could do wih that money. You'd likely pay off some debts, and more then likely go buy some stuff. Buying stuff creates jobs. Also to get the car industry going,stop pushing for more cleaner cars better gas mileage etc. They're  fine the way they are now. Lord Obama was elected via the help of leftwing enviro-nazis that want to put all of us in danger with these dumb-ass minicars. Also drill here-drill now, build refineries,nuclear power plants,windfarms,etc. If theres one type of fuel that should be "pushed" for in the car industry,its natural gas..safe, super clean, little refining, and there 300yrs worth under this country..We just need the filling stations..That how we get jobs in this country, from my view point..




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