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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/12/2009 11:46:20 AM

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It is a bad idea in general IMO unless you are on private property the entire time.

Agreed. Preferably with many acres.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/12/2009 12:24:46 PM

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I did something similar with a male sub once, "abducting" him in a darkened parking lot. The thing is, he knew full well what was going on (which I suppose kills the buzz a little), so there was no struggle, but I preferred this to his martial arts training kicking in :). I instructed him to behave as if he was knowingly being led to some sort of surprise, should anyone ask. Also I imagine if a woman had a man trussed up and blindfolded, it is likely that the law would be more be lenient. Might be unfair, but that's how it is sometimes. Maybe it would be wise to get something in writing sometime before he scene. I like the video tape idea. Unfortunate that spontanaety must give way to caution, but better that than a rape charge or worse.
There are many scenes I wonder how to pull off legally or outside the notice of the law, but I suppose those are for other threads.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/12/2009 1:02:36 PM

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In today's society could someone pull this off?

I know people that have done this and pulled the whole thing off but I also have a couple of friends that kind of got caught by the law.

The ones that got caught were fine until they tied the naked woman to a tree. A roaming dog came over to investigate, followed closely by its owner who then quickly legged it and called the police.
The kidnappers and the kidnapped woman thought they better stop, pack up and go home but were alarmed when they heard police helicopters flying over the house only an hour later. Worse was to come. A broadcast was made on national radio about what the dog walker had witnessed, the town was road blocked and door to door inquiries had begun.
I was at work that day and remember hearing it on the radio and smiling to myself with the thought that is was very probably some BDSM folk. Little did I know that they were friends of mine that were now laying very low (possibly under the bed!) within there home.
They eventually decided to hand themselves in and confess it was just a game. They realized that valuable police time was being wasted over something that was just meant to be fun.
They did get off very lightly. They could of been prosecuted and they could of ended up in every paper across the land.

Kidnap is something I think is seriously hot, especially when well planned but if you take the risk then you must understand that there may well be consequences.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/12/2009 1:07:05 PM

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You take the same chance as waving a toy gun around in public. You risk being taken down if caught and to explain it later. Up to the law if they believe it enough not to press charges.

Over here its likely you just get shot for brandishing a toy gun

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/12/2009 1:49:39 PM

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In today's society with its laws and judgmental media it is difficult for some of us to act out some of our deepest and darkest fantasies.

As difficult as you wish to make it.

Within the four walls of your home, there aren't any social norms.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/12/2009 1:55:30 PM

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It is a bad idea in general IMO unless you are on private property the entire time.

Agreed. Preferably with many acres.

That is why We bought every acre We could. Our own little reserve.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/12/2009 3:15:36 PM

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I agree with whoever said make it a break in, not an abduction. You can make it just as hot, if not more so that way, without the risk of unknowing police getting in the way.

When I was younger, a break-in and mock-rape is I first met one of my online friends. We'd spoken on IRC and on the phone for a couple of months so when it came time to meet we decided to do something different than normal. We arranged that she would hide a key to her back door in a particular place and I would visit her some night in the next week.

It built up a lot of tension and anticipation as she didn't know which night I was coming or exactly what would happen. I think I was more nervous than she was, not being sure of how she would react. It almost went badly because it took her a few moments to realize what was happening. All in all it was a very memorable first meeting and the start of a good friendship.

In retrospect that was an incredibly wreckless thing to do and I wouldn't do it now.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/12/2009 4:37:42 PM

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Yes,this scenario is actually quite common.I loved one Dominants account on MDS about doing a rape scene similar to this but when she was untied the Master hid behind her and she saw 3 strange men standing before her,she freaked out thinking she had actually been raped and that her life was in danger.... then her Master revealed himself.
Now that sounds like an awesome scene.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/12/2009 9:01:14 PM

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it is difficult for some of us to act out some of our deepest and darkest fantasies

I have to disagree, it is just a matter of having patience and creating the right circumstances. I can do now on my five acres what I could never do in suburbia (except at a friend's farm, occasionally

). I have to add that any fantasy I read that involves details about which rope goes where, and what the floor is made of, makes me want to scream.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/13/2009 5:07:02 PM

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Wow. I would like to thank everyone for all the advise and input. It definitely gave me a lot to think on.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/13/2009 6:56:38 PM

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That is why We bought every acre We could

Same here, moved from suburbia to the country, and my very own woods....

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/15/2009 3:38:50 PM

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After Master has gotten off he unblindfolds His submissive and tends to the aftercare and insuring that she has not been emotionally scared.

i loved the lengthy description of what looks like a fantasy of a close to real kidnap scenario, the in's and outs of everything, the fact that throughout you imply that the victim is apparently clueless as to the fact this is just a roleplay session.

And after paragraphs of descriptive information there is a single sentence that vaguely implies that the victim will get a warm duvet and a cuddle and that will make everything all right, emotionally speaking.

Pardon my naivety but given that this is seemingly meant to feel completely real to the victim from the grabbing and hooding onwards, do you really think that the administering of "aftercare" would be enough to stop the adrenalin, the fight and flight responses and the terror engendered by a kidnap and rape?

As people have covered the legality, and to some extent the forcing of passers by into non consensually witnessing someone's kink scene i thought i would cover something that, sadly, has been glossed over, the length of time and the ongoing effect of such a scenario on the victim.

Some people tend to forget the very real effects of such a scenario, and most of those who recover quite quickly are those for whom a deal of realisation of the situation set in at an early stage. Here that isn't the case.

If Master is going to go through with this then i would seriously entreet him to think before he acts, the damage could be longer lasting and have more negative connotations than seem to have been addressed in the OP.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/15/2009 4:12:58 PM

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I agree with whoever said make it a break in, not an abduction. You can make it just as hot, if not more so that way, without the risk of unknowing police getting in the way. of course, this only works if you have a key, you don't REALLY want to break a window or kick in the door... do you? Wait until she gets in the shower or something, let yourself in, turn off all lights (or kill the breakers) position yourself back against the wall next to the bathroom door, and when she walks past all naked and dripping wet throw one arm around her arms and chest, one over her mouth and tackle her onto the bed. done right, she wont even notice you standing there, if she does, hopefully you reacted quick enough that she doesnt know for sure its you. obviously this is best done when shes not expecting a visit.

Holy Moly! Now, THAT's Hot!!!

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/15/2009 4:36:17 PM

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People do this sort of stuff all the time, just like branding, scarification, extreme blood play, suturing and the like. Wasn't there a thread a while back about people doing spinal taps?

Sometimes life is risky, some embrace it, some run from it, and some walk a very fine line.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/15/2009 6:22:15 PM

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I agree with whoever said make it a break in, not an abduction. You can make it just as hot, if not more so that way, without the risk of unknowing police getting in the way. of course, this only works if you have a key, you don't REALLY want to break a window or kick in the door... do you? Wait until she gets in the shower or something, let yourself in, turn off all lights (or kill the breakers) position yourself back against the wall next to the bathroom door, and when she walks past all naked and dripping wet throw one arm around her arms and chest, one over her mouth and tackle her onto the bed. done right, she wont even notice you standing there, if she does, hopefully you reacted quick enough that she doesnt know for sure its you. obviously this is best done when shes not expecting a visit.

Holy Moly! Now, THAT's Hot!!!

Seconded.

Another vote from here. No knife that could be dangerous. No wandering public. No sudden police intervention. Just got to know how thin the walls are in case of neighbors' being aroused, in the wrong way. Yet all the joys of kidnap/abduction in BDSM play. Yum.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/15/2009 8:56:29 PM

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I think its one of those scenes that is overthought, there are so many ways to make it fun and exciting, not to mention incredibly hot, without making it complicated. a little patience and some planning is all you need. Granted I am not a fan of knife play... at all, so you'll never hear of that in any of my plans. waiting by the bathroom door eliminates the risk of her/him slipping in the shower during all the commotion and splitting her/his head open. if you DONT have a key, TELL her it will be an abduction in public, but wait outside her house one day for her to arrive home from work etc, then snatch her up right there. she'll be expecting one thing, so will be VERY surprised when it happens outside her home. plus its the perfect chance to check and see if shes really been wearing that plug to work like you requested ;)

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/15/2009 9:02:16 PM

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After Master has gotten off he unblindfolds His submissive and tends to the aftercare and insuring that she has not been emotionally scared.

i loved the lengthy description of what looks like a fantasy of a close to real kidnap scenario, the in's and outs of everything, the fact that throughout you imply that the victim is apparently clueless as to the fact this is just a roleplay session.

And after paragraphs of descriptive information there is a single sentence that vaguely implies that the victim will get a warm duvet and a cuddle and that will make everything all right, emotionally speaking.

Pardon my naivety but given that this is seemingly meant to feel completely real to the victim from the grabbing and hooding onwards, do you really think that the administering of "aftercare" would be enough to stop the adrenalin, the fight and flight responses and the terror engendered by a kidnap and rape?

As people have covered the legality, and to some extent the forcing of passers by into non consensually witnessing someone's kink scene i thought i would cover something that, sadly, has been glossed over, the length of time and the ongoing effect of such a scenario on the victim.

Some people tend to forget the very real effects of such a scenario, and most of those who recover quite quickly are those for whom a deal of realisation of the situation set in at an early stage. Here that isn't the case.

If Master is going to go through with this then i would seriously entreet him to think before he acts, the damage could be longer lasting and have more negative connotations than seem to have been addressed in the OP.

Pink has raised a very valid point. Even when I knew the attack was coming in the next five minutes, Valyraen still made me, literally, afraid of him. I knew it was him yet I couldn't help but believe him when he told me he was going to kill me. When it was over, he held me in his arms, wrapped me in a blanket and murmured into my ear for 10-30 minutes before I really had any sort of control again.

I wouldn't discourage people from indulging in this. But I do encourage people to take it seriously, weigh the pros and the cons and make sure that you are willing to do it safely, both physically and emotionally, for everyone involved.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/15/2009 10:01:54 PM

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My advise? Make sure you trust this woman and your ability to keep "the scene" away from public eyeballs, or you could easily be in for more than you bargained.

Good advice. I've posted this once before and I feel the need to re-post now:

A good friend talked for weeks with a woman(submissive) about a scene and about meeting,actually went out twice before this scene. Every thing seemed to be ok after the scene. A few days later this woman decided to go to a shelter and say she was assaulted by my friend.
She had a bruise from a bite mark on her thigh. He was arrested and charged with aggravated sexual assault. She embellished her version of this scene greatly which made it a felony even though the DA eventually bumped it down to a misdemeanor "family violence" charge because the majority of the claims by the victim could not be proved. My friend now has an assault conviction, spent eighteen months on probation, was forced to take and pay for anger management classes, do 120 hrs of community service. Spent over 10 grand in attorney fees. He has a horrible time finding a job. Is now unable to be hired in his medical career job of over 15yrs because of his record.
My friend has been in the lifestyle for over 10yrs and has never been accused of assault or being inappropriate. His life is now changed forever for a severe misjudgment in character and for thinking he knew this person well enough to engage in a scene with her.
Yes, for many this is an erotic proposition and one they need to carefully consider participating in even in the most private of settings. You never know how someone else will interpret your actions and feel about them later.

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/15/2009 11:58:37 PM

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i guess i just don't have the mind for this type of make believe fantasy play. i'd be spending the time thinking back over how He and i had planned the whole thing and that i knew what was coming.

As for it being her Master that has the sex, in the "rape scene" well, i tend to know many many things about my male lovers, from the scents of their bodies, to their breathing patterns.. to ..well.. every lil detail of how their cock size and shape and fit..along with patterns and rhythms of how he moves while having sex.. ALL those lil things would tell me exactly who it was that was "raping" me.. and my overanalizing mind..would RUIN all the fun.. i'd probably be laughing.

i do find the idea..as a fantasy.. to be hot though. *sighs

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RE: Would this be possible? - 2/16/2009 1:08:19 AM

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have you tried it? or is that your excuse as to why you haven't tried it. you might find, in the moment you don't actually think of all that stuff. its a lot to process at one time.

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