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RE: (Urgent) questions from a sub waiting for his Princess - 1/19/2006 10:47:53 PM

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Though chasity is not my thing, that was a very interesting post, subtlesubie.

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RE: (Urgent) questions from a sub waiting for his Princess - 1/20/2006 1:07:39 AM

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I am following your progress here Dorechan with some interest, as I have been (un)lucky enough to experience chastity with my girl friend. I have found it to be interesting but very unlike the fantasy.

Our motives were similar to yours - to build up to an almost intolerable state the male sexual energy. The first few days are a cakewalk, but by the end of the first week I can really feel that something is not quite right. In the second week, I start to get stomach aches, and I feel really heavy (down there). Towards the end of the second week I start to feel depressed, and my sexual energy is palpable. I don't usually cheat unless I really start to enter a bad mental state.

And the funny thing is, after all that work, it often backfires. During our first sexual encounter after the chastity, I am rarely submisive. More like a wild beast that has been let out of his cage. Don't get me wrong, the climax is sensational to say the least, but the sexual energy doesn't really last beyond one extremely intense encounter.

Interested to hear more of your experience.

Thanks for the comment. 6 days and a half down now. I'm OK, just oozing pre come.
You say you don't "usually" cheat. How many times did you do that ?
Also, did you wear a penis cage / chastity belt ? I'm asking because I still didn't have nocturnal emissions, and I'm assuming it has something to do with my "stallion guard" being on all night. What was your experience ? No night emissions either ? If you had emissions, didn't they release your sexual tension, or part of it ?
I said I'm OK but yes it's becoming a bit difficult : Last evening I was reading the news on my computer (not the sexiest thing to do), and before I knew it I found myself stroking Princess' penis. I did stop when I realized what I was doing (I was rock hard already), but I guess I'll have to wear the cage any time I'm alone...

You say the climax is sensationnal... then I'd say it's worth it, because masturbation is really not sensationnal.

During our first encounter, she absolutely needs a long massage anyway (just after a long travel, after a tiring week at work), and she will have the key, so I'll have to do a good complete massage if I want to be released. And then probably licking her whole body, finishing with a cunnilingus. And maybe do the whole thing again, and / or bathe her and / or pedicure... If that's not done, and done well, I won't get released. So it's not like my submission will be up to me. She will also have the necesary equipment to remind me who's the boss, in the unlikely even I'd forget (and that will include the shock collar (on a leg, yes), which implies minimal efforts from her, which is good as she really needs to relax.

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RE: (Urgent) questions from a sub waiting for his Princess - 1/20/2006 4:36:26 AM

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Interested to hear more of your experience.

We finally had time to talk about it : I'm not allowed to play with my anus, so I'll just let nocturnal emissions happen. I would be very surprised if they still don't happen for another 12 nights. I'm keeping the cage on all day long now, except under the shower and to shave (it was also the first time I shaved the area... I tried the cage on without shaving... It hurt !). And concerning the collar, I will wear it around a leg.

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RE: (Urgent) questions from a sub waiting for his Princess - 1/20/2006 11:36:17 PM

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i think the leg is a good starting place. you'll still get a shock and it will sting a bit, bt you can take more volts/amps there. also the thing to remember with electricity is that amps, not volts, determine the danger level of the activity. there are some great web pages out there on electrical play, and i'm sure they cover this kind of thing. and, if all else fails, look for do-it-yourself information on electrical repairs.

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RE: (Urgent) questions from a sub waiting for his Princess - 1/21/2006 12:34:08 AM

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I have found it to be interesting but very unlike the fantasy.

...The first few days are a cakewalk, but by the end of the first week I can really feel that something is not quite right.

I should have said, it's not really a fantasy for me. It's just that it's her penis, and that I shouldn't play with it on my own.

Talking about the end of the first week : After exactly one week since my last masturbation I called her, and she really, really turned me on (we talked a lot about what we would do when she comes back). When I hang up I noticed that a lot of pre come was oozing, and that I almost had a full erection (a full erection hurts, I mean, HURTS, in the cage, as the end of the cage is a circle of inner diameter 3.0 cm...). I tried to gently squeaze it to reduce the erection, but that didn't work : despite the cage being on (and tight), I had an ejaculation much stronger than average. I think I didn't have an orgasm though. Or I was too disappointed by my failure to enjoy it. That was my frst premature ejaculation ever, weird feeling. I guess I could say it was my first session of cyber sex

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So Princess decided I'll put the cage on only 3 days before she comes back.

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RE: (Urgent) questions from a sub waiting for his Princess - 1/21/2006 11:38:26 AM

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Dorechan,
It's not a fantasy for you? I am surprised - it is a pretty common one amongst subs.

When we have engaged in chastity experiments, it was under conditions similar to yours. The girlfriend is gone for a while (in our case a few weeks), no masturbation rules are implemented, and the game is on. We never used any kind of device, just the honor system. My girl is very convincing when she says 'she will be so disappointed if I break the rules', so i try my best. The key to a successful session, especially if there is a remote "keyholder", is to not allow yourself to get turned on in the first place. This makes the second part, not climaxing, much easier. Although that doesn't sound like much fun, if you break it down, the control you are submitting to is even more primal and encompassing. But it helps if you don't think of it in this while playing the game.

As for nocturnal emmisions (aka 'wet dreams'), I think by the time you reach your late twenties like you, or mid thirites like me, they only happen after prolonged periods of chastity. I have heard 6 weeks.

My girl has shown considerable interest in putting me in a chastity device, and so I imagine we will try it in the future. I will bet though, that it is a whole lot different if the girl is with you the entire time. A lot more fun, a lot less depressing.

You say your native language is not english. What is your background?

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RE: (Urgent) questions from a sub waiting for his Princess - 1/21/2006 12:16:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: subtlesubie

Dorechan,
It's not a fantasy for you? I am surprised - it is a pretty common one amongst subs.

When we have engaged in chastity experiments, it was under conditions similar to yours. The girlfriend is gone for a while (in our case a few weeks), no masturbation rules are implemented, and the game is on. We never used any kind of device, just the honor system. My girl is very convincing when she says 'she will be so disappointed if I break the rules', so i try my best. The key to a successful session, especially if there is a remote "keyholder", is to not allow yourself to get turned on in the first place. This makes the second part, not climaxing, much easier. Although that doesn't sound like much fun, if you break it down, the control you are submitting to is even more primal and encompassing. But it helps if you don't think of it in this while playing the game.
As for nocturnal emmisions (aka 'wet dreams'), I think by the time you reach your late twenties like you, or mid thirites like me, they only happen after prolonged periods of chastity. I have heard 6 weeks.

My girl has shown considerable interest in putting me in a chastity device, and so I imagine we will try it in the future. I will bet though, that it is a whole lot different if the girl is with you the entire time. A lot more fun, a lot less depressing.

You say your native language is not english. What is your background?

That is why I always make it difficult for my sub to not think about things that turn him on. I have to have fun somehow, don't I? It's a different form of "torture" I enjoy. (I don't use devices, either)

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RE: (Urgent) questions from a sub waiting for his Princess - 1/21/2006 2:28:53 PM

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It's not a fantasy for you? I am surprised - it is a pretty common one amongst subs.

I'm surprised that you're surprised : Different people, different kinks. I read on th internet how some women use chastity to completely control their men, have all the fun while they get none. After some time, I would demand the key (or get out without the key somehow) and walk away. I'm not an ugly fat old guy with a tiny penis and no oral technique who couldn't find another partner (rather the opposite). If the women take their relationship for granted to the point that they can abuse their partner, it could mean that they should rather find a better guy. As long as it's a game it's OK, but those stories about the women getting orgasms every day while denying any to their partners for weeks, I call that abuse. Of course lots of people won't agree, I that's fine.

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We never used any kind of device, just the honor system.

The thing is, I'm very absent minded. Really. And I had a habit of masturbating just to make it easier to fall asleep. If I had awaken at 3 am with a hard on, I really wouldn't have remembered about the game, or about anything. I would have just thought that I needed some biochemical somnifere (which is provided by the orgasm...).

... I should add that the result of the experiment is that the stallion guard is junk. It doesn't prevent erection, and rather encourages it, it seems (I always have a hard on for a few minutes when I put it on). It just makes full erection painful (as I said, the metal circle at the end has an inner diameter of exactly 3cm, which is less than most flacid penises. I think I have a diameter at full erection somewhere between 4 and 5 cm, so, well, it's kind of squashed. Also, there are different sizes, I took the smallest one, so that I fit in only when I am completely flaccid (and rather cold). So when I have an erection, I easily get 5 or 6 cm out of it. And I guess masturbating that part would be enough. The stallion guard is not suitable for any serious chastity or a game.
Oh, and even at the tightest setting I managed to get the penis out of it (using cold water and then lube). not the balls though. But the tightest setting is too tight to wear for long periods. Also, the way it closes makes it very easy to get some skin pinched.

PS : stallion guards come at different sizes, but just different lengths. The diameter is always the same.

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