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Vendaval -> BDSM documentary (2/18/2009 12:05:40 AM)
A BDSM documentary is finishing production in the San Francisco Bay Area. The title is BDSM: It's not what you think! http://www.erinpalmquist.com/BDSMdocumentary/

Ammon -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/18/2009 1:45:08 AM)
Vey laid back trailer. Of course I like a laid back world, so I enjoyed it. Thanks for passing along this link Ammon

AAkasha -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/18/2009 8:44:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval A BDSM documentary is finishing production in the San Francisco Bay Area. The title is BDSM: It's not what you think! http://www.erinpalmquist.com/BDSMdocumentary/ If they are trying to get rid of stereotypes, it would be nice if they interviewed people who did not need a "Lord" in front of their name. Can you hear the collective "eyeroll" from the vanillas who think BDSMers are a sort of glorified D&D/star trek convention/goofy costumers who take them self that seriously? Akasha

piratecommander -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/18/2009 2:38:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha If they are trying to get rid of stereotypes, it would be nice if they interviewed people who did not need a "Lord" in front of their name. Can you hear the collective "eyeroll" from the vanillas who think BDSMers are a sort of glorified D&D/star trek convention/goofy costumers who take them self that seriously? Akasha I agree entirely, even if they'd shown or used a proper name alongside it would help , otherwise it is likely to re-inforce peoples reluctance to accept that it's "not what it seems". A lot of people in my life will occasionaly refer to me as Pirate or in some related term , I do not hide who I am , but I do believe that if I was going to go on a telly broadcast intended to challenge peoples predjudices and educate them on the subject , it could only present a barrier to many viewers being able to take it seriously and digest the more relevant content. Obviously such "titles" play a part ...... for some , that is an educational issue too , I hope that the finished production represents as many aspects of BDSM as it can in positive ways but since it appears to be aimed at "outsiders" , I do worry that the "target audience" are not going to be reached in this way. Pirate (it may be that the chap is a genuine Lord , in which case that should be explained too)

Vendaval -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/18/2009 10:25:34 PM)
Yes, Lord God Commander of the Universe is a mouthful, no? [:D]

MsFlutter -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/19/2009 9:22:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval Yes, Lord God Commander of the Universe is a mouthful, no? [:D] I want to see those vanity plates !!

Vendaval -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/19/2009 3:53:05 PM)
Vanity plates nothing, that has to be painted with an airbrush on the side of a van! [8D]

piratecommander -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/20/2009 3:11:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsFlutter I want to see those vanity plates !! Interesting difference in terminology , ("vanity plates") , this is one phrase I shall take home and USE ! Pirate

Lynnxz -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/20/2009 9:17:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: piratecommander quote: ORIGINAL: MsFlutter I want to see those vanity plates !! Interesting difference in terminology , ("vanity plates") , this is one phrase I shall take home and USE ! Pirate O.o What do you call them?

GreedyTop -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/20/2009 9:49:15 AM)
I don't think you can order them in the UK, Lynn..

piratecommander -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/20/2009 5:11:18 PM)
You can buy "personalised" plates in the UK, these days the new plates are sold by the parasites (government) for varying fees, depending on how they read but you cant invent your own. The DVLA (driver and vehicle licencing agency) issue plates for vehicles, you can pay to re-plate your vehicle if you get/buy one you like I'm not a fan ..... but I've seen 5EXY (note the 5) , the plate 51NGH was auctioned at one point,these kind of plates are older and were issued to their original vehicles as a matter of course until the parasites realised they could make money. A lot of plates can be made to look personalised by strategic placement of coloured screws that make the letters or numbers look different but there are fairly strict laws on plate size and character spacing as well as front and rear plate colours.They must also meet reflectivity regulations.I have a close friend who always carries the official required version of his plates so if he gets pulled he can plead ignorance and say he was TOLD his "new" plates were legal and he just had them fitted. UK law can be very stupid. Bikers who like the smaller plates are regular victims of her brittanic majesty's bullshit laws. (As seen on many UK biker plates .... instead of vendor advertising at the bottom ...... "My Other Toy Has Tits" ) Pirate

Sfortzando -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/20/2009 7:31:57 PM)
Good lord - that's not a trailer; that's half the movie! Seems to me they spend an inordinate ammount of time talking about what BDSM is not. It's NOT abuse, it's NOT slavery, it's NOT abnormal. Well that's all well and good, but if this is a documentary about BDSM, shouldn't it be about what BDSM is? Then again, the title is BDSM: It's Not What You Think! Kinda set's the mood... Also, the graphic designer in me just has to point out that they used the font Papyrus, which is the most absurdly 'dramatic' type face known to man and loved by teen-age girls for their myspace pages since, liek forevar.

GreedyTop -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/20/2009 8:01:10 PM)
admits to liking Papyrus font... lol OK, so I dont use it anymore, but I do like it ;)

piratecommander -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/20/2009 8:30:04 PM)
You have a fetish for dramatic absurdity ....... ? ...... does this include dramatic absurd pirates at all ? (I can be dramatic and absurd in the same[sm=evil.gif] sentence) Can you handle multiple dramatic absurdity? (are we having FUN yet ? [sm=evil.gif]) Pirate

GreedyTop -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/20/2009 9:58:14 PM)
kisses love you :)

sirguym -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/22/2009 3:29:32 AM)
Whatever quibbles you may have about details, we need far more of this sort of thing circulating, to counter all the ill-informed negative stereotypes out there.

AAkasha -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/22/2009 10:30:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sirguym Whatever quibbles you may have about details, we need far more of this sort of thing circulating, to counter all the ill-informed negative stereotypes out there. This kind of thing perpetuates the stereotypes. That's my point. Akasha

sirguym -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/22/2009 11:25:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha quote: ORIGINAL: sirguym Whatever quibbles you may have about details, we need far more of this sort of thing circulating, to counter all the ill-informed negative stereotypes out there. This kind of thing perpetuates the stereotypes. That's my point. Akasha So, if 20 years ago I awarded myself a title because it seemed like a good idea at the time, and continue to use it, is perpetuating stereotypes? It happens, there are many others like me out there. You may not like it, but is an aspect of the scene that exists, whether you like it or not. I'm not pompous about it, I don't sign my letters, "Sir Guy Masterleigh, Baronet". I don't demand anybody else accepts my little conceit. We won't know, until the film is out, whether those who've awarded themselves scene titles come across as friendly and approachable. Or whether they are going to come out sounding like pompous arse-holes. From the tome of the trailer I think they'll come over well. So I don't really see it as an issue: unless you think those who made the film should reject good people because you personally don't approve of their nic. That is all it is: a nickname, a cypher, a handle, so that when people phone and ask for Guy, I know they're 'scene'. If they use my given name, I know they're probably not. I chose it for my scene identity, well before the internet was created, to convey a specific, 'sort-of-grand, but-not-really, slightly self-parodying image'. It most certainly does not make me any better, or worse, than someone who chose another name, without a title. Guy

sensura -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/22/2009 1:55:06 PM)
I think its a great trailer and hope to see the full documentry, we need this kind of media that sets a positive spin on the lifestyle. I defend it everyday, from family, friends, and anyone who has no clue of what its about. This documentry seems to be done in good taste too which is a plus. Ive seen many that are so distasteful or trashy or even boring. I like the fact that they use titles infront of their name, as it helps the audience understand who they are. Its part of bdsm and we use them everyday so why wouldnt they. As for the people who lack knowledge of this lifestyle or just dont want to understand it they will cause a negative outlook upon it no matter what. If its not a title or the way we dress its the way we communicate or play. Cant please everyone so may as well please yourself lol.

Sfortzando -> RE: BDSM documentary (2/22/2009 4:21:20 PM)
That's all well and good, but we're not talking about how you feel or what you prefer, or even you at all. We're discussing whether or not this documentary is going to resonate with it's target audience. If this documentary were targeted at the kink community, it would probably fail since it's done in a Kink101 kind of format, which might annoy people. Since this particular doccumentary is directed at a vanilla audience who has very little idea of what BDSM actually is, the Kink101 method works. Now, if the method of presentation works as well...well that's debateable. A vanilla audience might be turned off by the austentatious titles by themselves - and the argument is that including a lay name next to the title might make it easier to accept. Whether you think it's okay or not is a moot point, because we're talking about this from a vanilla perspective. I think the titles need to be included because that is a significant part of kink for many. However, I think lay names should have been included as well, because it would help convey to a vanilla viewer that the scene name isn't necessarily used all of the time.

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