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Aneirin -> Ssri's and feeling ? (2/22/2009 5:23:04 AM)

Any of you find with taking SSRI's, you are largely numb to external stimulus ? Numb as in not ticklish or as sensitive in certain areas where you feel you should be ?

I take it as the effects of the meds, but is it ?




camille65 -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (2/22/2009 7:46:08 AM)

It was for me, as well as an inability to achieve arousal or orgasm.




Aneirin -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (2/22/2009 8:06:56 AM)

Thank You Camille65, that sounds familiar, it is just aswell that I like serving then.




camille65 -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (2/22/2009 8:55:30 AM)

I didn't mean to sound all gloom and doom, so apologies for my first post. It can take a period of adjustment, several weeks and if the SSRI isn't a good fit then I've learned that it never really adjusts properly. It was a very hard adjustment for me even on one that did eventually work and it was tempting to give up.

If you feel just totally off then I suggest you speak to your doctor about dosage, it is important to slowly begin and just as slowly end. Cold turkey ending or abrupt introduction can make for a really unbalanced feeling.

In regards to the libido loss, for me that was weird. It went beyond libido and into the realm of um.. trying to describe.. I felt asexual. Things like that normal up and down flick over a good looking stranger never entered my mind, sex and the dance of sex was simply eliminated from my being. At first it was difficult then it became unnaturally natural. My worst frustration was an inability to achieve orgasm.

I stopped using SSRI's in early August of 08. That part of my mind and body is just beginning to awaken, but it is starting. Sometimes I feel like a plant unfurling in very slow motion.

Other effects in the beginning were also difficult, I had trouble maintain my body temperature and things felt surreal. Not just internally but externally, sensation was dimmed.

My dreams were also effected which was actually fun because I've always been a vivid dreamer and enjoyed the experiences.

Please feel free to ask me any questions if you want, my experience is of course only my own but perhaps there is a commonality to be found and I can be of help.




Aneirin -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (2/23/2009 4:40:47 AM)

No worries Camille, about the doom and gloom, for I know it well, for I have been on these things a couple of years now, they do work in that they cloud the external stimuli that affects my condition, but some of the other effects are not so welcome. Becoming used to the effects, life is just a continuous dull day, the zombie effect I suppose, the living dead, interest in anything is hard to keep. But I also know if I miss a dose, the next day is slightly unbalanced and my interest in things sexual starts to return, miss another dose and the next day, I am coming back to life. Yes, I have experimented with these things and I know how far I can go before I have to go back to them, usually two to three days off and I am a sexual monster, my sense of smell returns, I can taste things, touch becomes good again, I can regulate how much touch I use instead of the simply touch and no touch, on/off idea.

Too long off the meds, and I did think myself better last April and I just quit them dead, no tapering or anything and what a monster I became, even the cat was keeping out of my way, as it must have realised literally any hole will do. The mood shifts became frantic, rapid and intense, at any one time I could not describe how I felt, such was the feeling, happy,sad, energetic, tired, etc all in one go, but the most powerful feeling was the sex drive, the mind was on sex all the time, a constant state of arousal, the skin tingled, nay bristled with feeling, like an energy wave coursing through the skin.

I reported this feeling to my psychologist, and he advised I go back on the things to stabilise some of the effects, but he said what I was feeling is all the subdued energy, bottled up energy being released unregulated, the dam gates had not been sluiced open to control the flow, but had been thrust wide open, such was the effect.

But back on the meds, it is as usual, just a sexless zombie, the inner mind wants, tries to find some stimuli, but the body won't respond, even my hobbies and interests don't hold me for long, because of the lack of stimuli, I get nothing from them bar the initial interest and that wanes quickly. The only way I can maintain an interest, is when I am doing something for someone else, perhaps my need to be of service maintains an interest, but otherwise, no interest from others, I lose interest. Forums and such have been my saviour in the darker times, like here, coming on here and posting questions that some perceive as antagonistic or daring, it is I realise the search for response as I am continuously analysing my thoughts and patterns and that of people.

Now, I still sort of take breaks in the meds now, but that is because of that nasty condition of procrastination, the leaving of things to the last minute and not being surprised when it goes wrong, it takes an interested nagger to get me moving, I have good friends who nag and I thank them for that. But going back on the meds after a day or three of reduced dose, full strength has nasty effects, climax is impossible, arousal is there, but the action causes screaming pain in the top of the head and neck, a pain that makes climax not worth the effort, skin sensitivity becomes dull, little if anything can be felt.

Alcohol, many who take meds also take alcohol, it is advised we do not do it, but it for a short time allows enjoyment to be had, we can converse with others and share the same laughs, a controlled respite from the swim through treacle of normality. Depression is still seen in those that take the meds, but it's not so much depression, but our experience of living without living, the senses dulled, we do not feel as others do due to the action of the meds, so we appear depressed.

But this past weekend, I had a situation where I subbed for another and found there is an interest, that of service to another, a session without sexual gratification, yet I was not bothered about it, it would have been nice, but I know it was a non event with me, I did try, but the screaming head pain would not allow it, but at least I find enjoyment in service.




SavageFaerie -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (2/23/2009 8:47:15 AM)

SSRI's have really never had physical effects like loss of libido (nothing seems to ever effect that)  tho it sometimes does effect my weight and dry mouth. The SSRI fixes but on of 3 chemicals that effect depression.
Celexa balances the serotonin, but does not help the other two chemicals

I also take Wellbrutin, which balances out the norepinephrine chemical which can also be a chemical cause.
The lack of this effect the energy and negates the numb to a certain extent.

Also here of late I have discovered I have apparently had low dopamine levels.

While the first two keep me somewhat functional, the latter kept it still unbalanced.

To fix that I have found a beating a day ( I know odd) will raise the natural level of dopamine.

For the first time in 12 years and to a lesser degree longer than that, I have finally achieved the perfect balance.

I don't feel mentally and physically numb, I don't feel sad and depressed and feel Right. Gads I had long ago given up on my brain being even that it just still feel weird.

Just remember sometimes it isn't just the pill your taking but which chemical is low or off and might take finding a right combo.  Took me 12 years of mixes before I finally knew in practically an instant it was right.

And just to add I also have to take xanax due to also having anxiety disorder, but I have of  late been able to lessen the maintenance dose of that also.

I find it funny that no Qualified Dr could figure this out, it took meeting two wonderful people to discover what chemical was still missing

To that I have to thank BlackPhx and poenkitten...therefore I stay close to my therapist.

If anyone would like more information on the drugs, effect and causes of depression, I have studied and about read it all the death, and would be happy to share what I have learned.

Trust me if its been on the market I know effects as least for me, but I also know more common listed ones.




DesFIP -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (2/23/2009 5:29:31 PM)

I don't recall any numbing of the sense of touch. I was on Zoloft for 2 1/2 years. I just felt incredibly lazy and lackadaisical until I was finally raised to 200 mgs daily. I've been told I should have been a zombie at that level but instead I felt great, full of energy and tackled all kinds of projects.




torkinkycouple -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (5/2/2009 5:46:54 AM)

okay. SSRI's caused increased snypatic levels of serotonin, now, any monoamine transmitter. (5ht, ne, da) have function called down-regulation. meaning that you are now less sensetive serotonin.

this effect is similar to say, MDMx...you can roll a few nights in a row, but at some point you stop responding to the serotonin release right? you stop feeling all the massive enhancement of emotions right?

SSRI's make you build a tolerence to your serotonin in the same way, and thus tend to blunt emotion.

try bupropion as a non emotion blunting AD

---U of T pharma chem--




Falcor64 -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (5/18/2009 6:21:50 PM)

To answer your original question- most of the SSRIs do depress libido, but I've never heard of anyone having such a reaction to them. Now I teach psychology, rather than do clinical work, but it is still strange.

I'd suggest you consider two things:

1. Wellbutrin is an SSRI, and is the only one that does not cause sexual side-effects. That may be an option for you- discuss with your doctor. The tricyclic antidepressents, like elavil, are also possibilities. They carry greater risk of some side effects (dry mouth, etc) but not the sexual side effects. They are as effective as SSRIs but more likely to have side effects, which is why the SSRIs are the main drugs used now.


2. Also look at therapy. Research has shown that Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is as effective as medications for depression, and with no side effects. The issues here have to do with what your insurance will cough up and the extent to which you can work in the therapy.  A combination of drugs and therapy is also a common way to go- discuss with a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist.

To read more about the drugs, go to the library and pull the Physician's Desk Reference out of the reference section. It's what the doctors use, and will at least give you info about side effects. The rest may take somebody like torkinkycouple to explain!

Regards,
Falcor




cagliostro -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (5/18/2009 7:48:35 PM)

Actually Wellbutrin does not affect serotonin.  I think Falcor meant is not an SSRI.  It's a norepineprine/dopamine reuptake inhibitor.




DesFIP -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (5/19/2009 5:20:48 AM)

Therapy is effective for mild to moderate depression. But the meds are essential if you're feeling suicidal. And in all cases of depression, they lift the depression allowing you to work on your issues quicker and more effectively than if you were still depressed at all times. Both should be used, not one or the other.




LittleKitsune -> RE: Ssri's and feeling ? (8/31/2009 4:28:21 PM)

My pain tolerance was remarkably higher while I was dosed up on 300mg of Effexor. I used to be what some might call a pain slut. Now that I'm off the meds, I can't handle nearly as much as I used to as far as being whacked with belts, canes, etc.




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