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Sirandlittle1 -> RE: Preparations (1/21/2006 4:57:09 PM)

As ours was previously negotiated that if we were right in our thinking, and we did indeed have the chemistry that was oozing over the phone, emails etc. Then i was to signal him my consent to play, by standing before him and kissing him.

I was to clean and prepare and layout, all my toys. Most of which had cobwebs on them! (a downside to this, was some of them, for me anyhow, required a level of trust, that i believed would come through time, not instantly permitted by me, so i worried a little over getting them out. That he chose to play at a 'safer' level, for me, was a acolade to his Dominance, first play, is not the time to be pushing my limits.)

I was to cleanse, inside and out - this ritualistic centering of myself, helped to steady my nerves, and focus me on Him and us.

I was made to strip and present all that i offered Him. (id never submitted before, i cringed at this, this was perhaps the task i struggled most with, but achieved, a fact not lost on his observation of me, that i still did so, was rewarded.)

Then again, this was supposed to be a play partner not a life time one. Funny how things turn out[:D]

little1




Rayne58 -> RE: Preparations (1/21/2006 5:01:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


If I had to criticism myself here I would say:

How sensible is it to expect one person to relocate to another after having only spent one small piece of time together? A more patient and deliberate approach might be wiser.

Still -- the note - decision model could be modified any way you like.


I relocated to Master after having spent 3 weeks with Him on our first meeting [:)] Actually after 3 days together we knew this was it for both of us. We will celebrate 2 years together in 2 days.

That first meeting - we were both so incredibly nervous. It didn't help that Master had written off His car 3 weeks before so His mother insisted on driving Him to the airport! And my bag didn't arrive - it was an ongoing flight and didn't get unloaded so I spent 3 days with just a change of clothes I'd put in my carry on bag. He thought I'd stood Him up because I had to report my bag missing[:(] However when He saw me come down the ramp that was it He was totally lost (so He says [;)]) And after that first kiss and hug, I got to meet His mum too![:D]

I had no real instructions for the meeting other than to wear a short skirt and heels. It was going to be no underwear as well but considering His mother was there He rescinded that order *whew*[:D]




KnightofMists -> RE: Preparations (1/21/2006 8:19:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


If I had to criticism myself here I would say:



I wouldn't called it Criticism... Just Objective Reassessment of the possiblities given a particular direction choosen.

When I choose a particular path... I tend to consider the possible obstacles and detours that will come from choosing that particular path. Kind like having a game plan... but being ready to change as the hidden dynamics begin to appear.




MysticalPhoenix -> RE: Preparations (1/21/2006 9:18:18 PM)

Good luck Mistress Hathor on your upcoming meeting with your boy. I am also two weeks away from meeting my boy.

He's flying out from the west coast to meet me. Fortunately, I decided last year that I was going to relocate to the very area where he lives (as soon as my house sells, that is), so neither of us will have to relocate for the other.

I prepared detailed instructions for him as to how the meeting would take place. He knows what to wear, what time to present himself at the coffee house where I will be waiting, and what to do when he gets there.

He's a service-only boy, so there won't be any scening, toys or sex going on as part of our first meeting, just coffee, conversation, and lunch after. The next day we are attending the monthly KINK munch, and the following day a super bowl party.

If all goes well, when he returns to the west coast, he will be wearing my training collar.

Phoenix




veronicaofML -> RE: Preparations (1/21/2006 10:32:07 PM)

upfront and brand new?
nothing much
it was me..i'd go in with kid gloves and move slow...ya dont wanna overwhelm anyone...
i wouldnt be getting nutso just out of the gate.

but You do what You will

and good luck
best wishes




MHOO314 -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 7:14:34 AM)

Dear MysticalPhoenix--My deepest wishes that this indeed goes well. its so funny how many of us will be traversing the coasts on the same weekend--so if all goes well the population exchange is net net----smiles

Relocation--one of those things so many check off and barely intend to do--I've been blessed in the 2 previous subs I contacted seriously, they knew and understood the meaning--I have horses, I have an unmentionable here, I am not moving, they are--but boy was the first that out of the gate addressed it---he was asked to sign a year's lease and we talked--he asked Me--and we talked, realistically with his business and such, it would take a year--but I am adamant that in the early stages, one cannot change most key life decisions---but he knew immediately that this would need to be dealt with ( in fact with the latest playoff madness, his words were: " No disrespect Maam, but I would like to see Seattle win something before I leave"--harmless...but speaks volumes--

so cloudboy---I don't think it will be an issue of "how to take the boy home"--I think it will be more, how to keep the loneliness from creeping in until the boy comes home--and I am deeply committed to that--


veronica--your words as always are filled with much depth--yes we have both had stops and starts, so we keep some sense of caution there--and I will indeed heed your sage advice--

KoM, yes we already know the greatest--hmm I won't use the word obstacle, the greatest challenge is My unmentionable learning to trust someone--yet in My heart of hearts, I could have not have found one better suited to surround her with all the love humanly possible--

Sirandlittle1--your advice too is very very sound whether play or RL (KoM addressed it as others)--the ritual of focus--center, concentration on the time, the meeting(s), the events--My grandmother used to say, there was safety, counsel and wisdom found in structure and routine--I am adamant about ritual--for it is there that the physical commitment of the dynamic takes place--and it takes place on both sides---he has to know if I commit, it is as intense as his--

we now approach a week and a half away--even now as I write My hands tingle--


edited to spell out unmentionable, so everyone understood the trust issue was not Mine but creating a relationship between those two and My unmentionable opening up.




Wildfleurs -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 7:54:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MHOO314

I thought this might be a light hearted fun but valuable post---I am 2 weeks away from boarding a plane to finally meet the boy. We have communicated constantly, via IM (daily), emails and long scheduled and spur of the moment phone calls---My journal has the first set of expectations--the second set will be delivered this week--what I'd like to hear, is what some of you do to prepare for that first meeting---(btw we hope this will lead to an LTR)-- what are some of the commands you issue? what are some of the things you require ready for you? what are some of the things you do or think of to mentally prepare? what are some of the special activities you believe lead to success?

Inquiring minds love to know---thanks!


I'm not in a LDR (tho we were kinda in one several years ago when I had to move temporarily out of state for grad school), but I am in a LTR and the one thing I wanted to chime in on is that no matter the commands or preparation it won't be preparations for the first or second or even third meeting that will necessarily lead to success (not to mention what is success? I've been with my owner for 8 years now and it doesn't feel like we've hit the pinnacle or can sit back and say well we've made it - we still work on the relationship and invest in it). Chances are it'll be more the in between time as well as if you ever move close to each other the "down time" that'll have more of an impact on success.

Either way good luck on the first meet.

C~




MHOO314 -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 8:00:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

I'm not in a LDR (tho we were kinda in one several years ago when I had to move temporarily out of state for grad school), but I am in a LTR and the one thing I wanted to chime in on is that no matter the commands or preparation it won't be preparations for the first or second or even third meeting that will necessarily lead to success (not to mention what is success? I've been with my owner for 8 years now and it doesn't feel like we've hit the pinnacle or can sit back and say well we've made it - we still work on the relationship and invest in it). Chances are it'll be more the in between time as well as if you ever move close to each other the "down time" that'll have more of an impact on success.
Either way good luck on the first meet.

C~



Very very well said C--that is where the drop ( both sub and Domme) hits the hardest and the real work begins, keeping it alive for those long days,weeks, months between.




KnightofMists -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 8:18:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314

how to keep the loneliness from creeping in until the boy comes home--and I am deeply committed to that--



This is indeed the biggest challenge you will deal with. Don't forget that it will be both of you that will be dealing with it. Both of you will be expressing these feelings in different ways. Sometimes the stress and loneliness will come out in strange or unforseen manner. Sometimes strange and unacceptable behaviors suddenly are there and are often just rooted in the loneliness for each other. Sometimes the self-doubt just seems maginify the loneliness. Sometimes a meaningless issues become so much bigger for no apparent reason and so does the frustration. Sometimes you will be feeling it and those around you are going to feel the brunt of it and the person what seems light years away will not even know that you feeling it. Sometimes the emotions are so great that you just want to sit in quiet in a dark room and just reflect and regroup, but life often doesn't allow you that.

What I am saying is that you will not keep the loneliness from creeping in... but you can manage it, you can take control of it, you can stop it from overwhelming you. But, Do not deny it's existence. Denying or attempting to remove emotions is actually nothing more than suppression. You can control, cope and manage the behaviors that can be attributed to the emotions. But, the moment you attempt to deny and supress them... well they will have the power to come out in whatever way they see fit. Do not deny yourself the right to be angry... but control how you will let yourself express it. I am angry!!! so what do I do to express it. Maybe go punch the punching bag instead of yelling at a loved one. I feel sad! how do you express it? I feel happy! So many emotions are there but they are rooted to only to a few basic ones.

Habit that people have is when they say... I feel such and such. But when you actually look at the sentence. The proper word is I think such and such. Because the "such and such" is actually not a feeling that all. Often in these situations the feelings are a huge driving force behind the thought and it's important to drill down to the emotions that are motivating the thoughts. It also can be just a habit to talk that way, we are after all feeling human beings... we just can't remove feelings... we cope with them, we manage them... but we don't remove them! After a while we can change them, we can undermined the negative ones, take away the things that bring them about. I don't see this as removing the feeling. Because you will not take away your ability to feel this, you only minimize a particular area that feeling can surface.

With loneliness, you need to understand what you are lonely for. Beyond just wanting your partner, but what is it you crave or missing. The touch is the most common thing, but also the smell. So many things you can overcome in distance, but nothing can replace that crave. With my kyra, when the crave of touch occurs, I find often when we savor the moments of touch we have had it just seems to make it easier. We do not deny the crave for it. But, somehow, savoring memorable moments of touch and smell makes the craving alittel easier to manage. It is for this reason, that every time kyra and I are together, I make sure to make note of special moments that reflect this craving being satisfied. It is why I made our first moments together all about the touch and the smell. When kyra and I are together, we actually talk very very little. Lots of touching and holding to be savored! to keep the cravings at bay.

I can truly appreciate the feelings you are going thru at this moment. I truly hope for the best for you. I find it interesting that many see much what I do as somewhat romantic or full of devotion. I am not what you would call a romantic, as kyra has expressed, what I do generally as alot of reasoning behind it. If things that appear spontaneous, it is usually becuase an opportunity came across my path that I have considered. The only thing spontaneous is usually the timing, but the actions tend to have been thought out to some degree or another.

Just some reasoning behind why I made the first time with kyra so special. I didn't go into the situation hoping she was right for me. I went in knowing she was and was preparing things for the future as well as enjoying them in the moment.





MHOO314 -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 9:41:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


I didn't go into the situation hoping she was right for me. I went in knowing she was and was preparing things for the future as well as enjoying them in the moment.





Bam!




Shayna -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 9:58:52 AM)

I agree with spending time IN PERSON getting to know each other before play. I've met a number of people long distance and what I've found is that no matter how much is done before, meeting in person, to some extent, resets the relationship and some of the previous ground covered needs to be revisited. Matching up the person with the voice and all that you know can take time. So I'd say to allow the time for that to happen. I'm sure it varies quite a bit for each couple. A couple times the person was really different in person than long distance - I found that I had filled out the missing pieces with MY fantasy of the person, not who they actually were.






LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 10:13:55 AM)

Cleanliness, wardrobe and preparation.

The space you are in should be neat and tidy, especially if you are staying at his house. Laundry, dishes, rooms, everything should be as presentable as possible.

Wardrobe should be prepared. I personally prefer slightly dressy, but depending on where we are going that could change.

Preparation- have the food and drinks I like ready. Have tickets for events already in. Have directions and gas all ready to go. We shouldn't have to worry about anything except just being together and enjoying a brief kinky vacation together.




seaturtle50 -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 3:01:24 PM)

Reading this thread has my sub frenzy inflamed!

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MysticalPhoenix -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 4:55:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314

Dear MysticalPhoenix--My deepest wishes that this indeed goes well. its so funny how many of us will be traversing the coasts on the same weekend--so if all goes well the population exchange is net net----smiles


Holy Population Exchanges, batman!

I went profile hopping, and it looks like, the population exchange for seattle is net zero-that's where my boy is from as well (he's watching the playoffs and keeping me updated on how Seattle's doing, as I write this)-so while he's leaving town to visit me, you'll be there in town to visit yours.

Enjoy your visit, I love Seattle (why I"m moving there), it's a great place for people who are not swimming in the mainstream.

Phoenix




cloudboy -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 8:55:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

Sometimes the stress and loneliness will come out in strange or unforseen manner. Sometimes strange and unacceptable behaviors suddenly are there and are often just rooted in the loneliness for each other. Sometimes the self-doubt just seems maginify the loneliness. Sometimes a meaningless issues become so much bigger for no apparent reason and so does the frustration. Sometimes you will be feeling it and those around you are going to feel the brunt of it and the person what seems light years away will not even know that you feeling it. Sometimes the emotions are so great that you just want to sit in quiet in a dark room and just reflect and regroup, but life often doesn't allow you that.

What I am saying is that you will not keep the loneliness from creeping in... but you can manage it, you can take control of it, you can stop it from overwhelming you. Maybe go punch the punching bag instead of yelling at a loved one.

With loneliness, you need to understand what you are lonely for. Beyond just wanting your partner, but what is it you crave or missing. The touch is the most common thing, but also the smell.


There is loneliness, and then there is missing one's beloved. I think the two are separable. I pity the poor person who is lonely AND misses their beloved. That's suicide watch time.

What you describe above is what I call, THE DOWNWARD SPRIRAL. What you describe as "managing it," I would describe as landing on one's feet in the end.

Missing one's beloved, as you say, requires managing one's unhappiness and unfulfillment. All I can say about this is that its really hard and it really sucks. I'm not good at polishing this turd up into something better. As down as the downside is, it does make the upside of reuniting that much better. That's about the only silver lining.

Here are some signs that "you got it bad."

a. You start talking to yourself about it.
b. You get mad knowing its pointless to get mad, so you start to feel insane instead.
c. You start checking days off like a prisoner in a cell block, 1-2-5-9 etc.
d. You invariably run the calculus of, "is this worth it?"
e. You snap at those around you, and you brood a little more.
f. You pray things will be easier tomorrow.
g. All states of unconcsiouness are a blessing.
h. Getting through mini blocks of time in a day are challenges and victories.
i. Listening to the right music is quite therapedic.
j. Always know, that if you just hold on, hold out, if you make it, the dark period will end, you will be with you beloved again.

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Good luck.




veronicaofML -> RE: Preparations (1/22/2006 9:22:30 PM)


Here are some signs that "you got it bad."

a. You start talking to yourself about it.
b. You get mad knowing its pointless to get mad, so you start to feel insane instead.
c. You start checking days off like a prisoner in a cell block, 1-2-5-9 etc.
d. You invariably run the calculus of, "is this worth it?"
e. You snap at those around you, and you brood a little more.
f. You pray things will be easier tomorrow.
g. All states of unconcsiouness are a blessing.
h. Getting through mini blocks of time in a day are challenges and victories.
i. Listening to the right music is quite therapedic.
j. Always know, that if you just hold on, hold out, if you make it, the dark period will end, you will be with you beloved again.

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for ME.......................this is nothing but my o.c.d. kicking in.....

and uh

the shrink says its ok to talk to yourself..its okay to have a conversation with yourself

but you can only hear one voice and it MUST be your own.
now if you hear voices and no one else is around...........................................................

so i called..
"I" have heard voices all my life.
i talk to dead people.
you think i really am nuts...but its true.
my elders called it...the gift.

take care




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