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ORIGINAL: WiseCracknSadist

There are stereo types and there is reality and I'm interested in your opinion on which is which.

I have heard it said that subs are weak minded, lazy people who can't or won't make their own decisions, thus needing someone to lead them.

It's harsh I know and offensive, but I had another idea that counters his opinion.

I believe subs to be incredibly self motivated individuals. How else would they be able to adhere to our rules and complete our tasks?

What is your opinion?

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

May I first just say that I hate fitting into boxes, especially those made by someone else that I am expected to enter without my input or consent.  Okay so I'm grumpy.....

I don't think it has anything to do with orientation, but in my own experience, there was a specific time in my life that brought me to a realization of what I needed and desired.  I needed to have someone take control of a world that was spinning out of control with little I really could do about it.  I needed the feeling of inward control since the outside world was not playing by the rules.  I am not talking about self control, as I have that in spades, but of some area of placidity in the midst of chaos.  Further, it was a weak time in my life when I did not feel of use to anyone.  Think about how that would feel to a submissive who wants nothing more than to make others' lives easier and do for people.  I needed to be desired in my weakest moments.  I needed to know there was someone who could gain contribution from my being in their lives.  My point is, it may be because of the way submissive needs become glaringly exposed that such an attitude exists.  It was when I was weak and my world turned upside down that I could not ignore who and what I was.

Did this help at all, or is it the ramblings of someone who really should just go to bed?  LOL

lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: Wazz

You want opinions...Hmmm well just a thought on "lazy"

If i can and could do something for myself but cant be assed too, and get someone else to do it for me while i laze back and relax in the hamock sipping a cool drink with a cherry and fluffy umberela in it , would that make me lazy??

Just a thought....