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Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/11/2009 10:11:02 PM   
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I need some advice!

I've been smoking since I was fourteen. and I really need advice on kicking the habit.

I've used the patches/ nicotine gum.. and All they do is make my blood pressure go through the roof. Yeah, I know it is nasty, and can cause cancer and can lead to death.

So, I'm trying to kick the habit for my own wellbeing, and My Master really wants me to quit.

Right now, I smoke about a pack a day.

Any advice?
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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/11/2009 11:36:30 PM   
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see if you can get a prescription for welbutrin.  It's an anti depressant, but it works really well!  I used it back in the late 90s, and it was awesome! Sadly, I wasnt trying to quit for ME, so it didnt take.. but I did go from a 2 pack a day habit to about 3 cigs a day.

HOWEVER:  There are side effects. Fortunately, the only one I experienced was the severe headache for the first week.  After that, I was fine. 

Google it, see what it says.


My mom is using Chantix, which has worked really well for her.

ETA:   welbutrin was marketed as Zyban to quit smoking


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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/12/2009 2:52:02 AM   
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 Just to expand a bit on the great advice that GreedyTop gave,,,,

Welbutrin/Zyban works for many people. If you have it prescribed from your doctor for depression, many insurance companies will pay for it. Having it prescribed for smoking cessation will have many insurance companies deny that claim.

Chantix also has helped many people, but if you have any kind of mental health issues, please, please check with your doctor. There has been a plethora of reports of suicides for certain types of people who take this med.

Lastly, I would add that for any habit taken away or given up, another habit needs to take its place. Many people supplant food for cigs, which is not really the greatest as regards long term health. More people die of obesity related issues than do from cigarettes. Exercise, meditation, walking, sex, a new hobby, something, anything needs to replace that former bad habit. Good luck. :)


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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/12/2009 5:38:44 AM   
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I agree with the wellbrutrin. I do take the 300 mg for depression and I found that after hit the right level in my body that my cravings went way down. It didnt lead to quitting completly but it made a huge difference. I just need to set a new quit date and work toward it.

I am of the mind that nicotine replacement is just moving one habit to another form. Last time I tried I gave myself a 2 month quit date. Then I started to work towards setting down as much as I could.  I got cinnamin toothpics for the hand to mouth.  Healthy snacks so it wouldnt affect my weight. I was ready to go on National Smoke Out day.  That same day my best friend called in a crisis and I had to run to her rescue.  One thing that has gotten in the way of quitting is my anxiety and running to a stressful situation killed my quit date.  I am still determined to quit, I just need to get back in that mind set.


I havent been successful yet but its still on my list to do and get rid of this last nasty habit.

Btw on the Wellbrutrin I found the 150 didnt have near the result in loss of cravings as does the 300 mg.  Its a noticable and marked difference. Its allowed me to go from more than a pack a day to3-4 total all day.

I have heard to many bad experience of Chantrix, so am hesitant to even try that and my brain is all chemically imbalanced.  I have heard successful stories, but I hesitate because Im afraid it would back fire in not so good a way.

Good luck and cant wait till I can positively say I have quit.

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/12/2009 5:49:25 AM   
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just chiming in to say "good luck" and hooray for you :)

you know those commercials that talk about learning to do things all over again? like a guy at a diner who can't even drink his morning coffee right? i imagine you'll have to do alot of readjusting to things
will the pills take care of that? i dunno
it's going to take lots of will power either way, quitting ANYTHING does, and smoking is such a huge complex of addictions and habits

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/12/2009 6:07:32 AM   
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well sultana, i am sorry that the patches didn't work out for ya..

i quit last Aug, so i am in my 7th month without a ciggy, and i used the patch.

Thing is, with the patch, i fully believe that you need to WANT to quit, for it to work, otherwise it is lil more then switching one form of nicotine for another.

But, for me that was the key.. i used the patch, as a way of still getting the nicotine that my body craved, while all at the same time, using that time to break all the other habits, like the hand to mouth thing, and trigger points of when i usually lit up a smoke. (For me, it was always a ciggy AFTER dinner, and always a ciggy or 6 (lol) while talking on the phone with a sister.) So, i worked on breaking those habits, and the patches kept me supplied with the nicotine, which slowly decreases in strength with each step down on the patch.

At the end, i discovered the idea that i wouldn't really need the last strength of patch, just a general feeling that i no longer needed nicotine, so i stopped putting on a patch, and i was right... i never used the last pack of patches.

Whatever you end up using, i wish you luck!

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/12/2009 5:19:36 PM   
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Don't give up and be a quitter.  If you had any guts, you'd stick with it until the end. 

Back to being serious...I used to smoke and "quit" several times over the years only to start up again.  I tried all kinds of measures and none of them worked.  The only thing that worked was wanting to quit for its own sake.  That is how I quit for good and I didn't use anything.  It wasn't easy, but it was a lot easier than my previous attempts - probably because my heart wasn't in it the other times.  Eventually I just really wanted to stop and was absolutely determined to quit no matter what.  With all of my previous attempts, that just wasn't the case.  It's been eight years.

Good luck with whatever you try and stick with it.  You can quit if you want to.

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/12/2009 5:50:18 PM   
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Set a date in the very near future.....say 30 days from now. Then, everyday, tell yourself and pretty much anyone you encounter each day, that, when that day comes you are going to stop smoking forever. It's a form of mental reinforcement. When that day comes....if you don't quit also tell everyone to ridicule and humiliate you for failing (unless of course you get turned on by that sort of thing.....lol) This can easily be used in conjunction with other methods to quit.

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/12/2009 9:56:51 PM   
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repeat over and over "I don't want to die"

you can do like me and keep putting off quitting because of quitting failures instead of just fighting and sticking with the attempts till successful..... I finally did it but it was after I was told I have lung cancer, quitting now means being able to breathe on my own after surgery, and to help control heart problems and prevent blood clotting which could be fatal.  I am going through everyday wanting a cigarette, chantrix , nicorettes, welbutrin,  did not help me ... I am having to fight on sheer will power alone after 35 years of smoking  from 1 to 2 packs a day and when the temptation gets too bad I have to remind myself that  I need to quit inorder to try and buy myself as much time as possible, I am not going to let doctors cut out one lung only to start smoking and destroy what is left of my remaining one that is already damaged from so many years of smoking.

.... I  got the news I have lung cancer and also have a secondary disease that is caused by the cancer which is causing my bones to change which my ankles and knees very swollen and very f---ing painful making it hard to walk, stand  and sit, fortunately my bathroom setup gives me hand holds to get on and off the toilet still by myself, most of my day is spent laying down because I cannot do much else... in 2 weeks time will have my right lung removed..and that is considered lucky...it means I may have a chance of surviving the next 5 years... all I can hope is the surgery will help cure the secondary disease so that my quality life will improve over what it is now

only 14% of  people diagnosed with lung cancer will survive 5 years

you need to have stopped smoking almost 20 years to have "NEAR" the same cancer odds of a non smoker,, so you have a long time to repair the damage you have already caused

a pack a day is considered a heavy smoker

women will get lung cancer more often than men  and lung cancer is increasing in women ...you do not not want to add more risks than necessary
http://www.webmd.com/video/lung-cancer-men-vs-women

smoking  causes all sorts of other cancers as well  heart and pulmonary diseases..there is not much else out there there can due the kind and extent of damage that smoking causes

My life is already fucked ,,, there is no cure for lung cancer ... all I can hope is the end can be delayed without me too much suffering

you have a way to try and avoid facing the hell I am going thru a chance to live out you life to the fullest but you have to decide how bad you want to live

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/12/2009 9:59:02 PM   
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cripes maya :(
i dont' know you but *hugs*

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/12/2009 10:17:32 PM   
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omg, Maya.. *hugs and prayers*

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/12/2009 11:35:13 PM   
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I've been saying I'm going to quit for quite a while now. I keep putting it off. Its hard when most of my friends smoke too. I have heard of several people kicking the habit thanks to chantrix, but don't know if it would be good for me right now... going through a rough patch. All I know is I don't want to die from lung cancer at 30. aside from that, I'm a very healthy person. good luck maya, best wishes.

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/13/2009 1:14:52 AM   
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you have to want to quit.you obviously don't want to.that mat sound harsh but i also smoked for a long time..tried all the latest fads to help.One day back in the dead of winter in New York and also when i found out i needed heart surgery(stints)i caught the motherload of all colds.I rolled up the pack i had in my shirt pocket and tossed them out the window.Tht was nine years ago and i haven't looked back since.I have my moments of course..a favorite meal and coffee anytime of course..that need to puff..but for me..it isn't worth it anynore to even approach having another and lighting up.It took too damn long to say enough.

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/13/2009 3:13:10 AM   
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Thanks for everyones replies!

I really do want to quit. My dad has been smoking now for forty years, and He is dying from Congestitve heart failure and the Doctors are always on him about quitting smoking.. I know that since ive only been smoking for 13 years, I can quit.. but 40 years.. It's rough on him.. He cut down to one pack a day. and I sure as hell don't want lung cancer at the age of 30.

Since my dad has been smoking for so long, and with him being terminally ill.. His smoking is not helping at all.. After so long of smoking your lungs turn into liquid.. and that's what his is doing.

and.. I've cut down to a half a pack a day, since I posted this message.. Hopefully in the next week.. I can be smoke free!

ETA: This is sultana1.. but I am on Mine and Masters joint account.

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/13/2009 7:28:39 AM   
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I started smoking when I was 12. I was up to 2 packs a day. A little over 3 years ago I decided I was done smoking. Luckily it was a Friday and I spent the weekend taking Xanax to keep me from killing people, lol. By the time Monday came, the physical addiction was gone. The only thing left was the mental addiction, but because I really wanted to quit, it was easy to resist. I have not even taken a puff since then. I have no issues being around smokers.

Ask your doc for some xanax and tell him why you want it.

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/13/2009 7:40:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sultana1

I need some advice!

I've been smoking since I was fourteen. and I really need advice on kicking the habit.

I've used the patches/ nicotine gum.. and All they do is make my blood pressure go through the roof. Yeah, I know it is nasty, and can cause cancer and can lead to death.

The nicotine in patches and gum make your B/P go through the roof but the nicotine in 20 smokes doesn't?????


So, I'm trying to kick the habit for my own wellbeing, and My Master really wants me to quit.

Right now, I smoke about a pack a day.

Any advice?


I smoked for 4 yrs. Recently.
I went from several to a pack a day quickly.

I tried the gum, but I thought, why the hell am I chewing nicotine when I want it out of my system.
Didn't make sense to me.

The MD put me on wellbutrin (300mg).  I took it for a frickin year before I realized, I am smoking more not less and it interfers with my cymbolta.
 
I had to beg, literally beg, my MD for chantix.
Finally she gave it to me.  2 months worth.  The end.
 
I begged again after 6 months of smoking sometimes 1 1/2 packs a day. My cholesterol and triglyceride levels were off the charts.
Nicotine can kick chunks of cholesterol into the blood stream. I didn't want to stroke.
I begged my MD, I begged my cardiologist NP and they said you had your 2 month course, cold turkey baby!
 
I requested it from my Psychiatrist.  It took 5 months of chantix, almost 3 courses, but I finally don't smoke.
 
When I sat in my MD's office and she was praising me for the dramatic drop cholesterol and trig levels, I told her don't pat (yes I told her this) yourself on the back ... I had chantix help from Dr R cause you refused. 
 
Sometimes MD's think they are gods.  F em.
So that's my story and its the gods truth.  More than one course of chantix and forget the nay sayers.


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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/13/2009 8:11:13 AM   
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I started smoking at age 14. By age 16, I smoked a pack a day. I quit at age 24, when I smoked at least 2 packs a day on good days, and up to 3 packs on days that including drinking (which unfortunately, was more often than not).

I quit after one short session of hypnotism, and never smoked another cig ever again. It's been over 30 years now.

The key to hypnotism being successful, according to my hypnotist, is that the subject must truly desire to quit. He emphasized this fact prior to proceeding.

I eventually referred several friends and acquaintances to this man, and they also quit. Though one friend did go back to smoking after several years of abstaining.

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/13/2009 8:14:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sultana1

I need some advice!

I've been smoking since I was fourteen. and I really need advice on kicking the habit.

I've used the patches/ nicotine gum.. and All they do is make my blood pressure go through the roof. Yeah, I know it is nasty, and can cause cancer and can lead to death.

So, I'm trying to kick the habit for my own wellbeing, and My Master really wants me to quit.

Right now, I smoke about a pack a day.

Any advice?


Yes.  Put out the cigarette you may be smoking right now as you read this.  Empty the ashtray and put it away.  Pitch the pack of cigarettes.  Ask your master to give any remaining packs in the house to the cleaning lady (or whoever).

Then.  Don't smoke.

Don't talk about trying to quit.  Don't talk about the fact you have quit.  Just be.

Face the fact you will gain 10 or more pounds and be okay with that in the short run.  In time, you can substitue the effect smoking has on weight with increased activity or decreased calories, but it will probably be about a year before you'll feel up to it. (There's more to it than just hand-mouth fixation.... you will almost certainly gain weight. Be prepared emotionally, be okay with it to a certain extent, but be ready to minimize it as best you can right from the get-go.)

At least that's what worked for me a loooooong time ago.

It's hard.  But not that hard.  Good luck.


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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/14/2009 8:59:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sultana1

I've been smoking since I was fourteen. and I really need advice on kicking the habit.


Quit smoking and don't start again. I don't have overly much faith in medicin or nicotine replacements. Rather, find yourself a support group (rl or online) with people who can kick your but when you're considering another shot.

And never ever ever think that one isn't gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt.

(Almost 7 years smoke free :-)

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RE: Kicking a Nasty habit. - 3/18/2009 11:25:05 PM   
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Looks like I'm quitting sooner than I thought.

I got the wellbutrin on Tuesday from my doctor.. and.. well I had a dentist appointment Wednesday with an oral surgeon because I have to have 3 wisdom teeth pulled.

He said no smoking for two weeks.. So.. I am quitting sooner than I thought.

Btw.. I get my teeth pulled on Friday march 20th.. at 11am :|

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