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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 6:16:25 AM   
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So, let's back to the OP. Just exactly how does a daddy dom manage to differentiate so significantly from a puppygirl trainer? I mean you both still need your arses wiped when you shit. You need to be bathed, fed, nurtured and disciplined. You need to be trained, have all your choices made for you, you need to led, controlled and remove yourself from the responsibility of reality.

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 7:59:43 AM   
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I've been fighting posting all morning but my mind won't stay off this.   I usually try to stay with the approach of: "if you can't be helpful then just shut the hell up"  but this one is just knawing at me so i'm probably getting ready to be sacrificed here. 

Actually.. i think it's a GREAT idea to have the "daddy" thing have it's very own forum.   i wish they had their very own website outside of this one.  Anywhere i wouldn't have to see what i have a very hard time not calling sicko crap.   Yes, i know it's consensual and its 18+  but it's a mindset that grosses me out about as much as scat.   

Personally, i think it sheds a bad light on bdsm and i'm sorry but can't help but wonder if new comers or outsiders wonder how far of a stretch it is to go from daddy/babygirl to child molestation.  

Maybe i'm being close minded and ignorant about it but i have my reasons for not letting my mind be open to this particular idea. 

So i vote YES!! give them their own space.  I'd be happy to distance what Master and i enjoy from that particular mindset.


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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 8:12:21 AM   
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As someone who enjoys "that particular mindset" and gets hard hearing a woman whimper, I can also be a very nurturing daddy.  I prefer to embrace all my aspects rather than focus on only one. 

If you don't like a thread, be a fracking adult and IGNORE it. 

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 8:29:11 AM   
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Personally, i think it sheds a bad light on bdsm and i'm sorry but can't help but wonder if new comers or outsiders wonder how far of a stretch it is to go from daddy/babygirl to child molestation. 


Probably the same way newcomers and outsiders wonder how far of a stretch it is to go from bdsm to assault or abuse.

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 8:39:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sparkyRBF

Actually.. i think it's a GREAT idea to have the "daddy" thing have it's very own forum.   i wish they had their very own website outside of this one.  Anywhere i wouldn't have to see what i have a very hard time not calling sicko crap.   Yes, i know it's consensual and its 18+  but it's a mindset that grosses me out about as much as scat.   

Personally, i think it sheds a bad light on bdsm and i'm sorry but can't help but wonder if new comers or outsiders wonder how far of a stretch it is to go from daddy/babygirl to child molestation.  

Maybe i'm being close minded and ignorant about it but i have my reasons for not letting my mind be open to this particular idea. 

So i vote YES!! give them their own space.  I'd be happy to distance what Master and i enjoy from that particular mindset.



Yet does this site really need to get into overkill with over defining all the different variations of dominants and submissives? We all know that any D/s relationship is specifically defined by the people involved in that relationship. A sub may calls themselves, boy, baby girl, pet, son, slave, etc. and a dominant may them self, Sir, Lord, Master, Daddy, or any other term that they have an affinity for.
   Maybe this mindset you are sick of is based on the chasms between the groups yet you believe that segregating Masters from Daddys would be any different? Makes more sense to me that if you post a query in Ask A Master section and phrasing your question to indicate how your dynamic is with your dom is, them others will and do take that into consideration. I've had people address me as slave, though I don't identify as one, that doesn't matter as it's not important to raise a fuss about. Life is too short to worry about the minor bs that found here and in life.

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 8:56:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sparkyRBF

I've been fighting posting all morning but my mind won't stay off this.   I usually try to stay with the approach of: "if you can't be helpful then just shut the hell up"  but this one is just knawing at me so i'm probably getting ready to be sacrificed here. 

Actually.. i think it's a GREAT idea to have the "daddy" thing have it's very own forum.   i wish they had their very own website outside of this one.  Anywhere i wouldn't have to see what i have a very hard time not calling sicko crap.   Yes, i know it's consensual and its 18+  but it's a mindset that grosses me out about as much as scat.   

Personally, i think it sheds a bad light on bdsm and i'm sorry but can't help but wonder if new comers or outsiders wonder how far of a stretch it is to go from daddy/babygirl to child molestation.  

Maybe i'm being close minded and ignorant about it but i have my reasons for not letting my mind be open to this particular idea. 

So i vote YES!! give them their own space.  I'd be happy to distance what Master and i enjoy from that particular mindset.


Sparky, you admit you're being close-minded and ignorant, I can respect that. I would suggest a little education if only to help relieve the ignorance. I was once where you are and had no tolerance for Daddy Doms and their little girls. However, after much research, I found that I had some very serious misconceptions and prejudices to get over. I have a Daddy Dom and wouldn't have Him any other way than the way He is. He is also my Master and Husband. If you do research and serious thinking about then
make the decision that it's still not for you, great. But how can an opinion be honestly formed if you don't know what it's about?  Squick factor aside?

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 8:59:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: respectyourowner

A Daddy Dom is the most tender of all Dominants. He loves His adult (18+) little one with an undying passion. He always has his submissive's best interest in mind, even when it conflicts with his personal desires. That doesn't mean that he gives into her every whim. There can be a huge difference in her desires and her real needs. He has to be able to make that sacrifice for her if needed. And yes, at times he does punish her. This usually hurts him just as much if not more than her, but he will always do what's best for her.
He helps her set and reach her goals in life, not just in the lifestyle. He will help her improve herself to be the best she can be, not for HIM but for her ! He's not just looking to make her a better submissive, but a better person in general.

He becomes many things in her life, a mentor, a teacher, a protector, a guide, AND a lover! He offers her what she needs most of all, unconditional love and acceptance. He is consistent in his actions so that she knows what to expect from him, she knows she can depend on him!

He wants nothing more than to pull her close and protect her from the cruel world. But knowing all along that he can't ! So it is up to him to prepare her for whatever life may bring her way, and be there to comfort her when things go wrong. Knowing she will run to him when she becomes overwhelmed or frighten by the harshness of life. The Daddy Dom listens to all her fears and concerns, knowing no matter how silly or childish they may sound to him, to her they are real and he will help her confront them. He slays her dragons so to speak and he is her "Knight in Shining Armor".

The Daddy Dom hears all her dreams, desires and all the dirty little secrets, and smiles because she is bold enough and loves him enough to open herself up so totally to him. He kisses her face and holds her close letting her know she is loved no matter what. she is His little one, and he loves her unconditionally.

There is nothing more satisfying to him than to see her succeed, to watch as she grows as a person. He revels in her daily accomplishments almost as much as she does herself.


This describes alot of relationships ....... 
why should you have a forum just for yourself? 
Just cause your daddy might say so, think so? 
That's pretentious of you !!! 
(hehehe, I read the other thread first!) 
Why is your daddy more special than my Sir? 

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 9:34:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chamberqueen

What I would actually find more helpful was if there were check boxes in a Dom's profile showing whether he considered himself a Daddy, or sadistic, or both.  Then as I look for an appropriate Dom it would be much easier.  : )


Wow.  What a concept!

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 11:46:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sparkyRBF

I've been fighting posting all morning but my mind won't stay off this.   I usually try to stay with the approach of: "if you can't be helpful then just shut the hell up"  but this one is just knawing at me so i'm probably getting ready to be sacrificed here. 

Actually.. i think it's a GREAT idea to have the "daddy" thing have it's very own forum.   i wish they had their very own website outside of this one.  Anywhere i wouldn't have to see what i have a very hard time not calling sicko crap.   Yes, i know it's consensual and its 18+  but it's a mindset that grosses me out about as much as scat.   

Personally, i think it sheds a bad light on bdsm and i'm sorry but can't help but wonder if new comers or outsiders wonder how far of a stretch it is to go from daddy/babygirl to child molestation.  

Maybe i'm being close minded and ignorant about it but i have my reasons for not letting my mind be open to this particular idea. 

So i vote YES!! give them their own space.  I'd be happy to distance what Master and i enjoy from that particular mindset.



Are you really this ignorant?  Honestly?  If you aren't intelligent enough to separate ageplay or D/lg relationships from pedophilia, then you definitely shouldn't be participating in a Master/slave relationship.  You obviously can't be counted on  to tell the difference between BDsM and domestic abuse. 

This was one of the stupidest things I've ever read on collarme.

If you have any desire to be enlightened here is a very good article about Daddy Doms written by the well respected Master Z. http://www.domsubfriends.com/voye/articles/110/

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 12:03:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

quote:

Which is cool, just surprised me when I first started posting and reading and found Mistresses answering questions on the Ask a Master, Masters answering on the Mistress forum.....

Don't forget us mouthy s types, we post all over the place



LOL.....well yes that is true. 

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 4:09:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: respectyourowner

I am far from an elitist. This lifestyle is unique and different but more common then you might expect. I have not and will not criticize other lifestyles or call them elitist.



es off course your lifestyle is unique! And definately more unique than tpe relationships, relationships primarily revolving around rope bondage, pet play relationships, age players not confirming to your Daddydom description, etc. And therefore you need a special forum...  Well, it's a free world. Create one!

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 4:17:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sparkyRBF

Personally, i think it sheds a bad light on bdsm and i'm sorry but can't help but wonder if new comers or outsiders wonder how far of a stretch it is to go from daddy/babygirl to child molestation.


And how exactly is a special forum where they won't be noticed by you or newcomers is going to take way such ludicrous prejudice? DD/Ageplay/AB/DLs are as much part of the scene as you and me, and can discuss their lifestyles in the existing forums. If you don't like a particular brand of bdsm, feel free not to read threads on that subject. There's no duty to read everything.

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/14/2009 7:34:26 PM   
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"Ask a Master" forum  gets approximately  5 or 6  new posts per week

it is not like any Daddy Dom post is going to get lost there, it would likely remain on the first page for a couple of  weeks

and to split the forum when their is so few new questions  there already makes absolutely no sense


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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/15/2009 5:59:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyMerrisa

The difference is...you don't address to your Master per "Daddy"...>:) And it seems, like this is enough to apply for a new, separate forum 


I had a Mistress that I called Daddi. Would our posts go there or do we need a seperate female daddy forum too? After all she was everything described in respectyourowners post and she had big boobs. Talk about the best of both worlds.

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/15/2009 6:06:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MG4Apuppygirl

So, let's back to the OP. Just exactly how does a daddy dom manage to differentiate so significantly from a puppygirl trainer? I mean you both still need your arses wiped when you shit. You need to be bathed, fed, nurtured and disciplined. You need to be trained, have all your choices made for you, you need to led, controlled and remove yourself from the responsibility of reality.


I had a daddy and she never had to do any of that. Ok maybe the nurture part, but that was about it. I could bathe and feed myself and even brought her coffee when she wanted it. Oh and it would be a cold day in hell when I needed my ass wiped or wanted anyone to go there. Come to think about it, I  am not sure why you would need to wipe her ass when she was a puppy either. Maybe your thinking about scat play. That has nothing to do with age play unless you are into adult baby stuff and I don't know anyone in real life that does that.

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/15/2009 6:09:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: respectyourowner

A Daddy Dom is the most tender of all Dominants. He loves His adult (18+) little one with an undying passion. He always has his submissive's best interest in mind, even when it conflicts with his personal desires. That doesn't mean that he gives into her every whim. There can be a huge difference in her desires and her real needs. He has to be able to make that sacrifice for her if needed. And yes, at times he does punish her. This usually hurts him just as much if not more than her, but he will always do what's best for her.
He helps her set and reach her goals in life, not just in the lifestyle. He will help her improve herself to be the best she can be, not for HIM but for her ! He's not just looking to make her a better submissive, but a better person in general.

He becomes many things in her life, a mentor, a teacher, a protector, a guide, AND a lover! He offers her what she needs most of all, unconditional love and acceptance. He is consistent in his actions so that she knows what to expect from him, she knows she can depend on him!

He wants nothing more than to pull her close and protect her from the cruel world. But knowing all along that he can't ! So it is up to him to prepare her for whatever life may bring her way, and be there to comfort her when things go wrong. Knowing she will run to him when she becomes overwhelmed or frighten by the harshness of life. The Daddy Dom listens to all her fears and concerns, knowing no matter how silly or childish they may sound to him, to her they are real and he will help her confront them. He slays her dragons so to speak and he is her "Knight in Shining Armor".

The Daddy Dom hears all her dreams, desires and all the dirty little secrets, and smiles because she is bold enough and loves him enough to open herself up so totally to him. He kisses her face and holds her close letting her know she is loved no matter what. she is His little one, and he loves her unconditionally.

There is nothing more satisfying to him than to see her succeed, to watch as she grows as a person. He revels in her daily accomplishments almost as much as she does herself.


You need to site your source when you copy something off a website. These exact words were posted before with their source.

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/15/2009 6:14:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sparkyRBF

Personally, i think it sheds a bad light on bdsm and i'm sorry but can't help but wonder if new comers or outsiders wonder how far of a stretch it is to go from daddy/babygirl to child molestation.  
Do you wonder how newcomers or outsiders wonder how far of a stretch it is to go from flogging a sub to ripping her back open, the fact that some people don't have a clue why we like what do like does not make what we do bad. It just means they have no clue what it is we really do. Kinda like you have no clue what age play is about or else you would not bring up child molestation.


Maybe i'm being close minded and ignorant about it but i have my reasons for not letting my mind be open to this particular idea. 
Yes you are, but at least you are honest about it. My suggestion would be to learn about what it is before you start judging others on it. Until then you could do yourself a favor and stay away from any threads that have this as a subject. You are obviously too immature to handle the conversation and I wouldn't want you to get upset when others discuss it.

So i vote YES!! give them their own space.  I'd be happy to distance what Master and i enjoy from that particular mindset.
Or you could read the thread title and see the word daddy and just not go there. I am sure those who are participating in the threads won't miss posts like these. Then everyone is happy. See how wonderful personal responsibility can be.



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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/15/2009 6:29:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sparkyRBF
Personally, i think it sheds a bad light on bdsm and i'm sorry but can't help but wonder if new comers or outsiders wonder how far of a stretch it is to go from daddy/babygirl to child molestation.  

 
Let us draw up a list of activities that could be misinterpreted by outsiders....
 
Pony/puppy play
Knife play
Rape/Ravishment
 
I could probably think of a lot more (but I hate research searching is bad enough but to research v.bad.)
 
This misunderstanding of our kinks that greater society has is the only thing we all have in common I think. 

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/15/2009 6:57:47 AM   
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I know from experience how problematic it can be to walk that line between giving the members what they want and knowing better what the forum as a whole needs.  Breaking forums up into too many sub-categories can really clutter up a board.  So will having too little categories. 

Collarme has evolved over the years, which shows that they do take seriously the ideas and suggestions of their members.  However, that doesn't mean that they must/will implement any and every idea sent in.  As the multitude of posts suggests, this particular idea may have merit, it simply isn't widely acknowledged as being necessary.  It never hurts to offer your ideas, even if they aren't currently popular- because as things evolve, your ideas might germinate and take root elsewhere or elsewhen (is that a word?)

Best wishes in your search and fulfillment of your own interests,

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RE: New Forum required: Daddy Doms - 3/15/2009 2:34:28 PM   
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WOW Guys is it always necessary to lunge on someone you disagree with? I see his point and really lots of other forums too, such as Mommies, and Femmedoms etc. If it's too much so be it, but be nicer please!!! Jeez... you'd think he said we're all nuts or something!!! LOL

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