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RE: definitive guide to dominant females in film and TV - 3/28/2009 3:32:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aidan

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ORIGINAL: sophiastafford

Perhaps I'm not "bdsm"-- perhaps I'm just evil. 



Yep. That covers it.


Agreed. You are exactly the kind of person I would never let into my circle of influence and indeed think you're a pox on the species.

I'd wish you good luck finding...whatever it is that makes you happy, but no, I sincerely hope you stay miserable for the good of many, many people.



This has been one of the best things I've read so far today. 


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RE: definitive guide to dominant females in film and TV - 3/29/2009 4:32:15 PM   
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THANKS!  That's my kind of research.

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RE: definitive guide to dominant females in film and TV - 3/29/2009 4:38:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

Geez, everybody cut the OP a break!


No.

I get REALLY tired of media stereotypes of female power that cannot distinguish between being dominant and being evil.  The OP and all submissive men who share this woman-hating, demonizing death trip can truly and SINCERELY fuck off and die.

I am not Ilse Koch or Elizabeth Bathory.  Dominant men do not have to live in a world where there is never a Zeus, a King Arthur or a Robin Hood to balance the Hades/Satan, Caligula and Jack the Ripper stereotypes.  MALE dominance in our society is not cast solely in the negative, with the premise that men cannot have power unless they are abusing it brutally, hatefully and stupidly.  I see no reason to put up with this sterotype being laid on me and other female dominants; there's nothing "submissive" about throwing buckets of hate-filth on me.

Crap like this makes me so angry that I hope the OP and every male submissive like him get EXACTLY what they're looking for--an evil bitch who will use, destroy and kill them.  Women like Irma Grese are exactly who they're looking for, and exactly who they deserve. 



You make a good point.  When I was a kid, I used to seek out those Amazon planet type movies, where the men were held as slaves.  I always wished that at the end, instead of the dominant women seeing the error of their ways, the MEN would see that they did not really want to escape.  I wanted them to voluntarily remain in slavery to the women. 
Ms. Catwoman is such a fantastic domme because her core personality is good.  She has no evil or malic in her character.  She is a great dominant woman becasue she is a great woman, period.

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RE: definitive guide to dominant females in film and TV - 3/30/2009 12:17:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

Geez, everybody cut the OP a break!


No.

I get REALLY tired of media stereotypes of female power that cannot distinguish between being dominant and being evil.  The OP and all submissive men who share this woman-hating, demonizing death trip can truly and SINCERELY fuck off and die.

I am not Ilse Koch or Elizabeth Bathory.  Dominant men do not have to live in a world where there is never a Zeus, a King Arthur or a Robin Hood to balance the Hades/Satan, Caligula and Jack the Ripper stereotypes.  MALE dominance in our society is not cast solely in the negative, with the premise that men cannot have power unless they are abusing it brutally, hatefully and stupidly.  I see no reason to put up with this sterotype being laid on me and other female dominants; there's nothing "submissive" about throwing buckets of hate-filth on me.

Crap like this makes me so angry that I hope the OP and every male submissive like him get EXACTLY what they're looking for--an evil bitch who will use, destroy and kill them.  Women like Irma Grese are exactly who they're looking for, and exactly who they deserve. 



Ok, I have to play devil's advocate here a little bit. Because I do get what you're saying...but....

I enjoy movies with scenes that include "male vulnerability" or male helplessness or male bondage. Also men submitting, men kneeling, men begging - whatever. When I find myself drawn to these portrayals of men, they are in a wide variety of situations - they are all acting. They are playing a role. They may be helpless because they were caught by villians or maybe they were playfully tied up by a girlfriend - whatever.  The fact remains that when I see scenarios of male helplessness, it gets me kind of hot - on a variety of levels. 

As a result, I can name movies or tv shows with most actors (of note) if you tell me the name, just because it's in my memory banks.  If someone made a list of these things (well, someone does, kudos to Roper Mike, just google him) I find it interesting and may look at some things I could have missed.  Even though a great many of these feature men in scenarios I don't find attractive per se, or of men in roles I do not find *attractive* if it were "real life," the fact remains that the imagery is kind of hot to me.  Where does this ultimately go? I may just create my own little fantasy around it, I may change the way it happens in my head, or I may just look at it and think "hot."  It doesn't mean I want to do it, want it to be real, or anything of the sort.

Could it be that these men who make these lists or like these lists - of women in power, or cruel women, or whatever - they aren't all necessarily maliciously or ignorantly eroticizing something that is necessarily bad, but they are just attracted to the imagery, some of the visuals - a body language, a certain smile, a confidence that comes with cruelty. It doesn't mean they want it to happen to them in real life, just as I don't want an air tight box in my basement because I saw one on tv and the superhero they shoved into it looked really hot when he got all sweaty.

Akasha



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RE: definitive guide to dominant females in film and TV - 3/30/2009 12:47:22 AM   
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Wow, for the first time I actually agree with ShaktiSama.  I mean, I wouldn't say I want the OP to fuck off and die--that's a little harsh--but otherwise I agree that there is a lot of misogyny rolled up in attitudes like this.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

I get REALLY tired of media stereotypes of female power that cannot distinguish between being dominant and being evil.  The OP and all submissive men who share this woman-hating, demonizing death trip can truly and SINCERELY fuck off and die.

I am not Ilse Koch or Elizabeth Bathory.  Dominant men do not have to live in a world where there is never a Zeus, a King Arthur or a Robin Hood to balance the Hades/Satan, Caligula and Jack the Ripper stereotypes.  MALE dominance in our society is not cast solely in the negative, with the premise that men cannot have power unless they are abusing it brutally, hatefully and stupidly.  I see no reason to put up with this sterotype being laid on me and other female dominants; there's nothing "submissive" about throwing buckets of hate-filth on me.

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RE: definitive guide to dominant females in film and TV - 6/7/2009 3:16:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

Geez, everybody cut the OP a break!


No.

I get REALLY tired of media stereotypes of female power that cannot distinguish between being dominant and being evil.  The OP and all submissive men who share this woman-hating, demonizing death trip can truly and SINCERELY fuck off and die.

I am not Ilse Koch or Elizabeth Bathory.  Dominant men do not have to live in a world where there is never a Zeus, a King Arthur or a Robin Hood to balance the Hades/Satan, Caligula and Jack the Ripper stereotypes.  MALE dominance in our society is not cast solely in the negative, with the premise that men cannot have power unless they are abusing it brutally, hatefully and stupidly.  I see no reason to put up with this sterotype being laid on me and other female dominants; there's nothing "submissive" about throwing buckets of hate-filth on me.

Crap like this makes me so angry that I hope the OP and every male submissive like him get EXACTLY what they're looking for--an evil bitch who will use, destroy and kill them.  Women like Irma Grese are exactly who they're looking for, and exactly who they deserve. 



Ok, I have to play devil's advocate here a little bit. Because I do get what you're saying...but....

I enjoy movies with scenes that include "male vulnerability" or male helplessness or male bondage. Also men submitting, men kneeling, men begging - whatever. When I find myself drawn to these portrayals of men, they are in a wide variety of situations - they are all acting. They are playing a role. They may be helpless because they were caught by villians or maybe they were playfully tied up by a girlfriend - whatever.  The fact remains that when I see scenarios of male helplessness, it gets me kind of hot - on a variety of levels. 

As a result, I can name movies or tv shows with most actors (of note) if you tell me the name, just because it's in my memory banks.  If someone made a list of these things (well, someone does, kudos to Roper Mike, just google him) I find it interesting and may look at some things I could have missed.  Even though a great many of these feature men in scenarios I don't find attractive per se, or of men in roles I do not find *attractive* if it were "real life," the fact remains that the imagery is kind of hot to me.  Where does this ultimately go? I may just create my own little fantasy around it, I may change the way it happens in my head, or I may just look at it and think "hot."  It doesn't mean I want to do it, want it to be real, or anything of the sort.

Could it be that these men who make these lists or like these lists - of women in power, or cruel women, or whatever - they aren't all necessarily maliciously or ignorantly eroticizing something that is necessarily bad, but they are just attracted to the imagery, some of the visuals - a body language, a certain smile, a confidence that comes with cruelty. It doesn't mean they want it to happen to them in real life, just as I don't want an air tight box in my basement because I saw one on tv and the superhero they shoved into it looked really hot when he got all sweaty.

Akasha





Thank you Akasha, this is exactly what I am thinking.  Some of these replies are pretty cruel and are not needed at all towards him IMO.  Maybe he has alot of time on his hands,sure.  But to tell him off because some of you think that this is his only view of dominant woman as being plain "evil" might totaly be wrong.  He more than likely can tell the differences between real life bdsm type stuff, and the stuff in movies where woman (evil or not) is just something that is hott, but in the end just a movie and does not reflect his real view of dominant woman.  I always enjoyed these types of scenes in movies where woman capture men, as it is something that actually goes against the grain of the traditional woman "damsel in distress" type scenes that are everywhere.  Its something different and fun to watch and it can be quite hott.  But that doesnt mean that I view real life dominant woman in this manner, which of course I dont.  So to malicously attack the OP for making a list like this is wrong at this point, unless he comes out and says that this is actually how he views real life dominating woman, which I find highly doubtful.  Its just a fun little list of movies that show woman having men in a position that most woman are usually in as "damsels in distress" in most movies/shows. 

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RE: definitive guide to dominant females in film and TV - 6/8/2009 2:14:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sophiastafford

making someone fall totally in love with me and then breaking their heart?   heaven.
Honestly, truthfully pointing out another's faults until they begin to sob?  hot.
Inspiring someone to take steps to sabotage their own relationships, their own career, their own happiness--   exciting.



Good list for what it set out to achieve.

FWIW, tho it's not my kink at all, I would LOVE to do this to you to see how you felt about it then.

Oh wait, I'm male, it's what I do best, isn't it?

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RE: definitive guide to dominant females in film and TV - 6/8/2009 10:08:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sophiastafford
My site, and indeed, my sexuality and many facets of my social identity, involve what might loosely be called "evil fetish".  For as long as I can remember, I have enjoyed doing very mean things to people.  Even better, I enjoy making people do very mean things to themselves.   I was "stimulated" by such thoughts and actions since childhood-- indeed, long before I had any conception of sexuality, I still got a definite charge from being cruel or making others suffer.

I realize of course that this is a long, long way from a "traditional" bdsm style relationship, where both dominant and submissive enter into things with total sanity, consensuality, and mutual love.  Such relationships certainly are the "norm" within bdsm, it would see.   But that's just not who I am.

Indeed, I don't even know if my interests deserve to be called "bdsm".  The thought of handcuffs or ropes bore me.  A whip or a paddle isn't something I'd ever use.  I don't want to be called "Mistress" or "Goddess".   Most of the trimmings of BDSM are just not something that appeal to me.

On the other hand-- making someone fall totally in love with me and then breaking their heart?   heaven.
Honestly, truthfully pointing out another's faults until they begin to sob?  hot.
Inspiring someone to take steps to sabotage their own relationships, their own career, their own happiness--   exciting.

Perhaps I'm not "bdsm"-- perhaps I'm just evil.  That's really why I got started Toxic Treat--  because whatever I am, I'm not a normal dominant, I'm something else.  And the people I've shared that side of myself seem just as baffled as I am when it comes to what makes me the way I am, how prevalent are these interests, etc. 



I too am baffled.  This is beyond my realm of understanding.
Evil?  Sociopathic?
Po-tae-to, po-tah-to, but either way, I don't like my potatoes that way.
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