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about disease.. - 3/18/2009 10:30:56 AM   
cavewomancollar


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have you ever had a sub or slave that had any disease or disability.. was it harder to perform because of her or him to be that way?

I have fibromyalgia, and cant be in the cold for too long.. what are your advices for me to do to be able to please my future Master??!?!?!?!
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RE: about disease.. - 3/18/2009 11:00:38 AM   
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Tell him you have fibromyalgia, and can't be in the cold very long. If he's worth being with, he will understand.

Editing to add more, that little bit comes across as snippy. I've never had a disabled pet, but in a vanilla setting, I dated a girl who has osteogenesis, a condition of weak bones as a child. She frequently needed to use a walker or cane. It was awkward at first, but as cliche as it sounds, the inner beauty shined. There were a few things her disability limited us from doing, but not much. Until the relationship turned sour, it wasn't a huge factor.

It's an issue of compatibility. Be mature about your limitations, and honest. Don't try to press what you shouldn't be doing to try and make him happy, ESPECIALLY if he is not aware.

It may be harder to perform certain tasks due to disease, but this should be accounted for. Essentially, I'm saying "make sure he understands any particular limitations you have." If he's ok with that, i.e. still keeps you, then there shouldn't be any problems.





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RE: about disease.. - 3/18/2009 1:45:10 PM   
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quote:

cant be in the cold for too long


So what the heck are you doing in Iceland? Eh?

(I am sorry, I did not mean to make fun of your disability, but considering your location I just couldn't let this one pass.... )

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RE: about disease.. - 3/18/2009 1:49:02 PM   
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I cant move cause i cant get a job nowhere.. and they refuse to relocate me cause i am too young (they say) and that I dont have kids.. so.. they refuse to let me have disability benefits.. idiots.. and i am icelandic.. so.. im stuck.. 

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RE: about disease.. - 3/18/2009 1:57:03 PM   
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I do have fibromyalgia since approx. 17 years, though only have a name for it since a year...nevertheless that did not stop me to move from germany to ireland and from germany to england and will neither stop me to move again latest after my studies to australia, new zealand or canada...also fibromyalgia varies, when I am involved with someone and it might get on a more serious level then I simply feed him with two links which explain it well, the general one is this one:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fibromyalgia/DS00079
and the bdsm one is simply to find here with the simple look at the search machine....that's enough for first general knowledge:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1488046/mpage_1/tm.htm

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RE: about disease.. - 3/18/2009 9:05:25 PM   
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Many here have fibro.  I agree with antipode... my test is... oh shit... I can't tell you my test or everyone will know how to pass it!  If you email me I can tell you a great way to tell if someone is interested in the long term or just playing. (one sign anyway)  It has worked for me every single time and there were many times.  (sorry headache here and as dingy as I can get!)

Oh... and relax hun... you seem to be too worried about things.  Just be you... settle in and have fun!

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RE: about disease.. - 3/18/2009 11:30:22 PM   
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cavewoman,

I'm not sure if there would be any advice or resources that could help you on this forum but here is the link: http://kinked.org/

Best of luck in your health and life. :)

Actually here is another resource site: http://collarncuffs.com/Disabilities%20and%20sex%20toys.html


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have you ever had a sub or slave that had any disease or disability.. was it harder to perform because of her or him to be that way?

I have fibromyalgia, and cant be in the cold for too long.. what are your advices for me to do to be able to please my future Master??!?!?!?!



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RE: about disease.. - 3/24/2009 9:05:12 AM   
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i have fibro too.as you saw from my post, Master knows that when it is cold i suffer from the pain more, so if He wants to use me at those times He makes sure O/our room is warm to me..(portable heater)...if i am tied for long periods, He covers me with a fleece blanket, 99% of the time...after W/we get started i "warm up" and the fibro pain is gone....
i can also take Tylenol ahead of time  or a hot shower if He tells me in advance, when W/we will have play time.

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RE: about disease.. - 3/30/2009 2:38:24 AM   
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Since I bounced onto this thread, I have to mention a few things – my experience and a supplement you should try if you have fibromyalgia…

I know I want to yell this from the highest mountain to the lowest valley, but at least to anyone reading this who has this disease or other ‘unexplained’ problems, have you thought about heavy metal toxicity?

My quick background – it took me six years to go full circle what I believed in the beginning…the medical establishment will say I have MS. Sure that’s the result FROM being poisoned by mercury from my dental amalgams. If you have ‘silver’ fillings in your mouth, they are typically 50% mercury, which is big time toxic to your body. I was slowly poisoned for 20-25 yrs. I’m glad my body fought so well given this attack. I had clinical ‘MS’ less then 10 days after a Hep B vaccination (which still had thimerosal in it – a mercury preservative – there’s no mystery why we have such high rates of autism in the US).

Just a quick web search on this:
http://www.southbaytotalhealth.com/Fibromyalgia.htm

Not all MS cases are because of mercury poisoning, but I damn well think it’s high – maybe the 30% that remain relapsing-remitting. To me, fibromyalgia falls into this ‘general’ category of problems that they can’t quite figure out, not so dissimilar to the view regarding MS. So please, I want to share with you what I think is the most important…

Cellular nutrition. What I mean specifically is that when I didn’t know it was mercury for those six years, I fought this f’en MS through not just a sensible diet and exercise, but nutrition. You might be having what is called FM because you have nutritional deficiencies you aren’t aware of and toxins of course make this worse. I literally had no idea that my intent – to go from strength not weakness, to strengthen my body not pollute it with meds – is what halted my ‘MS’ – because it fought the free radicals that the mercury produces.

Recently in my search for quality magnesium, I came across magnesium with malic acid. What kept popping up is how it helps those with FM:

http://www.oralchelation.com/technical/malic2.htm

And what struck me? That malic acid chelates aluminum. Is that what’s behind FM? I’m a very creative person and I research endlessly when I want to know something…which is why I’m curing the incurable MS. It was all bullshit, I’ve gone through some not so pleasant things but I finally found the truth.

I’m no doctor (as if they know anything about nutrition, heavy metal toxicity or chelating – trust me, they don’t I asked a lot of them)…I’m a person recovering from MS, a part-time instructor…and well, looking for nice femme dom (smile).

If you read this and want to ask me anything, feel free to email me.

On malic acid:
http://www.organicfoodee.com/vms/malicacid/

I have no idea what the right dose is for malic acid if you plan on detoxifying aluminum. I follow a very specialized protocol to remove mercury (which if anyone wants that info just email me).

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RE: about disease.. - 3/30/2009 7:01:53 PM   
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Shoot - if you are over the age of 22 then there is a pretty good chance that there is something physical that you have to take into account when you want to play. I don't have "diseases" but i have dickey shoulders and carpal tunnel so my Sir and i play around these things. No big deal.  Just talk to him before the first play session - if he doesn't initiate the conversation - and tell him limitations. 

Actually  -  any dom/me worth their salt should bring this up quite early in the relationship so they know what to allow for. It should be part of your negotiations for sessions.

Anyway - you aren't any less valuable because you have a physical condition to take into account. Work around it and enjoy!

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RE: about disease.. - 11/9/2009 4:49:43 PM   
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As a Domme, now with a full time sub (mills), he is learning very quickly the signs when I wake up, if it will be a bad day.  He nightly rubs down my feet and lower legs in hopes it will allow me peacefull sleep.
I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia over 20 years ago. I continued to work and support my 2 children. Push, push, push. But now I am almost 50, and add Lupus to the mix.
For years I went back and forth to specialists saying I had MS. I have been poked and prodded beyond imagination.
Currently I am on a balanced dose of Cymbalta and Lyrica, taking Vicodin, Xanax and Donnatol as needed. I also tahe Omega 3-6-9, Calcium-Magniesum-Zinc, Probiotic and multi-vitiman. I cannot take any anti-inflamitories due to kidney issues, and must limit tylenol as well. And must deal with bouts of dehydration. (and I drink TONS of water!)
Unfortunately, I recently relocated across my state, and am in a very bad downswing. My doctor gave me enough samples to get by, but I am in too much pain to actively work, so am not sure what to do. Downswings can last anywhere from a few days to months for me. To find a job in my field that has the insurance I had---well that is crucial or these will be pre-existing conditions.
Bottom line is---with fibro, I worked long hours and raised 2 great kids. Eat right, stretch morning and night, find a doctor who cares, take the meds, I found this to be the best way to manage it all. Now if I could just get back on track!!!!


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RE: about disease.. - 11/10/2009 3:54:49 AM   
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Take care of yourself first and foremost - how can you serve if you aren't at your best?  Know your needs and limits and don't be afraid to express them.  A good Dominant will understand and find ways to work around your issues.  It's okay to remind him if he forgets, or say "I'm sorry, but I can't/shouldn't do that.  Would it please you if we did (similar activity that you know you can handle) instead?"

In the past, I've had a partner with bad asthma, and a partner with a heart problem.  In both cases, we had to learn what was safe and what was risky, and accept that some things would not be possible, and that some things that were fine yesterday might not be okay today.  We had to be aware of warning signs and respect those.  Some days we just had to put off playing, no matter how much we wanted it.  And no matter how careful we were, there would always be bad days, days when these men were incapacitated by their conditions, and we had to learn not to feel guilty about it, and make sure they took the time to recover.

Right now I'm involved with a man who has Asperger's Syndrome, which comes with its own challenges.  I have to be very mindful of his body language because he can't always express himself when he needs to, and be very vocal about what I'm thinking because he can't always read mine.  I have had to learn to explain things in a certain way, and he has had to learn to ask questions when he needs something clarified or repeated. 

Does working with special concerns interrupt the flow of what we do?  Sometimes.  Does it take hard work?  Sometimes.  Is it frustrating?  Sometimes.  But was it worth it?  I always thought so.  I've never regretted any of it, and I don't think they have either. 


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