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RE: Are we all switches ? - 4/3/2009 2:11:32 AM   
LAgirlsub


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You now just argued the other side...I don't believe even 'most' people are bisexual. I wouldn't know how to begin to think in terms of what 'most' is. If you went by this site, you'd think 'most' people had some kink in them. I haven't a clue.

All I do know is a lot of assumptions are made, particularly by how we look. I'm sure I confuse men because I'm friendly to everyone and feminine, so they think that means they can hit on me and get a result they'd like...which never happens. I'm sure I'm a much smaller percentage of women out there that only are attracted to women sexually (darn it - smile). Now that I just looked up my Myers-Brigss (INFJ), I have to be only one percent of the population. It wouldn't be so bad to just be one among the many.

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RE: Are we all switches ? - 4/3/2009 10:27:39 AM   
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i dont see how my views contradict, i siad i think most (or large percentage) are bisexual and that i support whatever someone calls themselves, i dont think woman who are just into woman(lesbians if you dare) are a tiny percentage and have proven so in the social movements of the past. i dont think we are able to get a real accurate % of what sexuality the population is due to societal factors of homophobia and inturn the counter bitterness of the gay community sometimes has towards bisexuals amoung many other factors, i havnt experianced anything but im sure quite a few switches are also told to pick a team as bisexuals are. my personal view on sexuality and its lables are that they are only used as a basic identifier to help people navigate socialy. i think as our society matures we will see less need for lables and more so an imbrace of just what indaviduals are attracted to and not attracted to, that or we will make more and more lables for growing subgroups such as when transgendered or bisexual steped out of the gay unbrella in the past. but these are just my misguided views so take what you want from it

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RE: Are we all switches ? - 4/3/2009 7:23:25 PM   
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I just disagree with you on this point. If you lump all bisexual women with lesbians, it's a larger group but unfortunately (for me - the more gay women the better - smile) it is a smaller group when it's just women who are only sexually and romantically interested in other women. Sure I wish the 1 in 10 was accurate regarding gays in the US but I honestly tend to doubt it.

I don't think we'll ever really sort it all out and reduce our use of labels; however society does move forward, even our capitalistic (inherently conservative) one. I'm still surprised in the heartland - Iowa - passed gay marriage. Really fascinating.

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RE: Are we all switches ? - 4/3/2009 9:10:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Vanityfull

impo i think pretty much everyone is a switch, i also think everyone is bisexual. some people just have alot more disire for one over the other in the gender/orintation thing.   <<snip>>

there are very few 100% doms/subs/gays/straights in the world in my view.


Exactly what I think.  Well said.

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RE: Are we all switches ? - 4/4/2009 1:02:51 AM   
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Okay, i have been reading this thread since it's beginning.  i don't believe W/we are ALL either bisexuals or switches. i am bisexual, but i am 100% submissive But i used to play with a switch.  At first i thought He was 100% Dominant, as He was acting as my Dominant, but then i found out He was a switch.  At that point i asked Him if there was anything i could do to make it more fun for Him.  So then He would ask me to Top Him every so often and i would do my best to, even though i was really shitty at it and it felt totally unnatural to me.  But i did it to please Him, and because it pleased HIM, it also made me happy.....i drew on my subby need to please.  Now W/we haven't played in quite awhile, but W/we are still really good F/friends.  It was a good experience, as i always wondered if i'd make a decent Domme, and now i know what i had always suspected.....the answer is a definite "no."

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RE: Are we all switches ? - 4/4/2009 4:08:24 AM   
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In a normal relationship which works, the relationship is switch. Switch in that whatever the situation is at hand, the person or gender with the better skills takes automatic charge. This is a situation that is hardly noticed or conversed about, it just happens so to ensure the smooth running of the relationship and the task in hand. To me,what is unnatural is a situation where tasks are allocated based upon what a defined dominant says has to be done, as if the dominant is all skilled and all knowledgable in everything and they just wish to assert their dominance.

I have watched a sub/dom couple do this, the day to day running of life those with the better skills for the task in hand take dominance. Also I have found it is interesting in my own interactions with a dom, the dominance shifts with the situation, as we all, sub and dom require support at different times.

This situation, that of switch is what I am most comfortable with, as it does not limit my explorations, I sub for one, I am keen to dom another.


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RE: Are we all switches ? - 4/26/2009 3:38:56 AM   
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Then Vanityfull I'm one of the special few. I am a gay woman. Period.

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RE: Are we all switches ? - 4/28/2009 4:22:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sabirah

Pardon my ignorance, as it is all a learning experience with me. 
Is being a switch only sexual or is it mental as well ?
I consider myself to be a straight submissive woman, 
I enjoy kneeling to a dominant man.
If a man is weak and does not have the skills to keep me in my place, 
( I can be most bratty at time and to speak my mind alot )  I tend to turn more dominant, mostly because I am a single mom and many responsibilities in this  life.
I have a good nose for BS. and do not suffer fools kindly. 
Does this make me a switch ?

Thank you for your time.


I don't believe so,.Every single person is different in one way another. What makes one person tick may not work for someone else.
I'm a Sub When it Come to MOST men. not all there is a tiny % that make the Domme in me come out. Girl On the other hand If they Are not 210% sure they Are Domme they i will most likely Control/take them under my wing (and truth be know. I love girls in all but I'm not Necessarily Bi)
there a lot of other factors that make me lean one way or the other But I'll stop at that.

< Message edited by PearlGates -- 4/28/2009 4:24:24 PM >


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RE: Are we all switches ? - 4/29/2009 3:05:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sabirah

Pardon my ignorance, as it is all a learning experience with me. 
Is being a switch only sexual or is it mental as well ?
I consider myself to be a straight submissive woman, 
I enjoy kneeling to a dominant man.
If a man is weak and does not have the skills to keep me in my place, 
( I can be most bratty at time and to speak my mind alot )  I tend to turn more dominant, mostly because I am a single mom and many responsibilities in this  life.
I have a good nose for BS. and do not suffer fools kindly. 
Does this make me a switch ?

Thank you for your time.


No of course not, you just need a good dominant that won't let you get away with anything.
I have watched too many submissives having a go at the Domme bit, only to become unhappy in the way they portray themselves to be...untruths because they are just playing the game to please others.

I have a suspicious head on my shoulders and because of this I wouldn't consider submitting to a switch guy for many years, just in case he was a closet purest submissive that was 'just playing the game'. Come to think of it I wouldn't submit to a dominant man either but that was because every dominant man I found ended up confessing they wanted to switch!
Someone here has said that they believe it is hard to find 100% Dom and I would go along with that. I think its far easier to find 100% submissive though.

I am a switch and I am in a switch relationship. A switch relationship can only really work if you are genuinely dominant and submissive. Finding someone else with equal strengths on either side of the kneel is always the problem


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RE: Are we all switches ? - 5/26/2009 9:16:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sabirah

Does this make me a switch ?



All are switches, but float within a measured table between dominant and submissive.  Even the most hardcore of dominants or subs cannot possess 100% nature.  I know myself that I float up and down that scale depending on those involved.  Some can have me tasting my more dominating side while Others can whip me into the zone of submission.

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RE: Are we all switches ? - 6/1/2009 9:19:53 AM   
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I think this makes you a strong woman who needs a very strong man as your dominant equal/partner. It sounds like some of the men that you have submitted to haven't been strong men. I have the same response, as well. With my ex, I ran our life way more than he did; I had to, but I didn't enjoy doing it.

I think more exploration with your dominant tendencies could help figure out if you would enjoy the dominant side play, as well, but I see that as unrelated to needing a strong man as your dominant.

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