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BadJezebel -> RE: Gaza - the facts emerge (3/26/2009 8:11:51 PM)
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ORIGINAL: KaineD
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ORIGINAL: housesub4you
Well, if you read the koran, it says as long as you are lying to help the world come under Muslum law they you are forgiven, so first you need to understand how deep this runs.
When Yasr Arafat (?) signed the peace treaty in his own language he qouted the Koran about how lying is OK as long as it pushes your beliefs forward, then several years later he broke all his promises
So, there is a religion who believe everyone who does not believe should die,
The Musum say this is not true, however if you look at current data, christains living in Pal, have gone from 45% to 12% because they kill they, everywhere Muslums say they will live in peace with others, the other populations have been lowered to below 10% because of death threats or actually killing.
NPR just had a report on this very subject,
When your religion tells you it is ok to lie to get ahead, and you will go to where ever they believe they are going, it's a hard battle to fight
Anti-Muslim rhetoric really has no place here. I've been called anti-semetic for a lot less than this.
It's not just anti-Muslim rhetoric... it's Muslim rhetoric (I was a Middle East Studies major). Each culture has it's own values. Directness may be seen as honorable in one culture, naive in a second, and completely something else in a third. Please read so that you can understand:
".... No less damaging than his comments about Jerusalem was Arafat's cryptic allusion about his agreement with Israel. Criticized by Arabs and Muslims for having made concessions to Israel, he defended his actions by comparing them to those of the Prophet Muhammad in a similar circumstance:
I see this agreement as being no more than the agreement signed between our Prophet Muhammad and the Quraysh in Mecca.
Arafat further drew out the comparison, noting that although Muhammad had been criticized for this diplomacy by one of his leading companions (and a future caliph), ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab, the prophet had been right to insist on the agreement, for it helped him defeat the Quraysh and take over their city of Mecca. In a similar spirit,
we now accept the peace agreement, but [only in order] to continue on the road to Jerusalem.1
In the five years since he first alluded to Muhammad and the Quraysh, Arafat has frequently mentioned this as a model for his own diplomacy.2
Though this allusion to events in early Islamic history is completely obscure to non-believers, many Muslims are familiar with the prophet's agreement with the Quraysh. Mentioning it in Johannesburg and often times since permits Arafat to send an almost clandestine message about his intentions toward Israel, one intelligible to Muslims but not to the rest of the world. What intentions did Arafat convey with his reference to the prophet's biography? An answer requires a historical excursus to the original incident nearly fourteen centuries ago....."
The article is by Daniel Pipes and can be viewed:
http://www.meforum.org/480/lessons-from-the-prophet-muhammads-diplomacy
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