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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/24/2009 9:32:58 AM

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Y'know, it's funny--these arguments about how "realistic" the blackmail fantasy should be? Make me kinda uncomfortable, as a photographer.

'Cause, you know, I take the incriminating pictures myself. Everyone has to sign a model release form and show me a driver's license in order to pose. It would take no time at all to track down my "victim" and his place of work--or the people in his home town who share his last name, like dear old mom and dad.

*shakes her head* Awful. See? This is one of those moments that belong in the "Thoughts You Shouldn't Have" thread.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/24/2009 9:38:05 AM

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I'm really surprised we don't have one of those around here somewhere. LOL

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/24/2009 9:44:06 AM

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Hmm... the blackmail guys always offer up their OWN pics to me. The whole fetish is an EW for me, I just like fun pictures!

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/24/2009 10:08:05 AM

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I'll bring Reggie with Me. He's a good boy and not afraid to get his hands dirty. Give us an idea of materials, and we'll scrounge them up.

That's right! Tell Reggie I said to get his butt to work ;)

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/24/2009 12:31:45 PM

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mystickoolaid wrote: [retyped because the embedded HTML was confusing the editor]
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2. Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information.
3. Something of value extorted in this manner.
o Tribute formerly paid to freebooters along the Scottish border for protection from pillage

Right. And saying `Send me money or I won't play your blackmail game' fits none of those definitions. It is not blackmail: it is charging for a service.

So, because you didn't blackmail them, you also didn't call their bluff. Calling their bluff is when they say `I want X', you say, `Here, have some X' and they disappear. In this case, they said, `I want X', and you said, `Here, have some Y.' They disappeared because what you offered wasn't what they were asking for.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/24/2009 12:39:57 PM

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Lovely new photo, MoGa. I have 3 other suggestions about floor repairs, Habitat for Humanity, a local fraternity or sorority or even a church.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/24/2009 12:47:28 PM

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Question: would any judge seriously prosecute "blackmail" if it was done as a fantasy/fetish/roleplay which was sought out by the person being blackmailed? Seriously, has this ever happened?

Would it happen and has it ever happened are two different situations. In many jurisdictions, consent is not a defence to carrying out a criminal act so, if you blackmail somebody, it's blackmail and illegal, whether they asked you to or not. I would think that the most likely scenario leading to prosecution would be a bitter ex-sub going to court after the fact.

You'd also be open to the counter-blackmail of `give me all that money back and then some or I'll go to the cops and tell them you've been blackmailing me.' You'd better be very certain the original blackmail was legal before you report the counter-blackmail to the cops.

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It would be like trying to prosecute an attempted murder case if someone was into asphyxiation and their partner accidentally went too far.

If the partner died, I wouldn't be surprised if the surviving partner was prosecuted for full-on murder; it's certainly not `attempted' anything if there's a corpse. The police would, at the very least, be obliged to investigate.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/24/2009 12:54:13 PM

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But i am claustiphobic. i can't stand a body bag. But if i have a job to do, i do what needs to be done to do a good job.
But to get back to the original thought, Ya, i'd go down on a Lawman, if the Lawman was a She. OOOW! handcuffs and night sticks.
Gotta love a Lady in Uniform.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/24/2009 12:55:35 PM

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But i am claustiphobic.

Claustiwhat?!

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/24/2009 12:58:34 PM

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LadyPact wrote: I'll bring Reggie with Me. He's a good boy and not afraid to get his hands dirty.

This creates a very odd image. Whenever I see something you've written, there's your picture to the left of it so, in my mind's eye, you're `The lady in the boots and purple corset'. Obviously, you wear other clothes, too. Especially when you're repairing floors. But, just like if somebody says `London', you imagine Big Ben and a red bus or something, if somebody says `Lady Pact', imagine the lady in the boots and purple corset. But now, the lady in boots and a purple corset is trying to bend down to repair a floor and muttering things like `floor before corset' and it's very silly.

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Silly thing, beeble. That's what boys are for.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/28/2009 12:57:15 AM

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I think that some service submissives are genuine, but asking for any major amount of money from someone you've never met yet is a bad idea. Even if they are genuine, though, a no-strings attached, purely service-oriented D/s relationship isn't something I want. I don't feel comfortable investing the kind of emotional connection I need in order to actually dominate someone (rather than just ordering him around, which might be feasible) if they aren't going to be my romantic partner.

Before my Mistress expressed an interest in me I did offer my services to others. I didn't have a lot of money to spare but told a couple of Dommes on here that if materials were made available I would provide my home repairs skills just for the chance to see a working D/s household in action. I wasn't expecting anything sexual from it. Just that this was all new to me and I wanted to see how it was done. I was even prepared to offer referenced from customers who had paid me to do similar work. I never found anyone on here willing to go as far as discussing what repairs were needed over the phone. <shrug>

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/28/2009 6:41:46 AM

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I wouldn't be wildly interested in discussing anything over the phone, either---a face to face meeting, and some evidence of what the person's skills are would be good.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/28/2009 8:02:00 PM

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I do consider myself more of a service submissive and a few times I offered and I was refused. I wouldn't do it for a long term situation as pure service but I have been willing to do it. I have been thinking about it and I think that a lot of the women who say they want it are not really willing to put the time into training the sub for what they want.

Other times I have heard, I don't have sex with submissive men and sometimes I have heard that women are more submissive to the men they have sex with and don't see submissive men as masculine at all which is a turn off to me and raises more questions in my mind. Blind service, money etc I think tends to border on either a straight pay for play or just taking advantage of the gullible.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/28/2009 10:45:54 PM

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I wouldn't be wildly interested in discussing anything over the phone, either---a face to face meeting, and some evidence of what the person's skills are would be good.

Which I would have been happy to do with any who lived within a reasonable driving distance. Most did not live in the same state so I thought discussing the projects over the phone was a reasonable step. As far as evidence of skills you must have missed where I said I had references available just as I would for any of my customers.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/29/2009 9:13:36 AM

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I wouldn't be wildly interested in discussing anything over the phone, either---a face to face meeting, and some evidence of what the person's skills are would be good.

Which I would have been happy to do with any who lived within a reasonable driving distance. Most did not live in the same state so I thought discussing the projects over the phone was a reasonable step. As far as evidence of skills you must have missed where I said I had references available just as I would for any of my customers.

I did miss the bit about references, sorry. Here is my spin on this: you are not local to the women who need handyman work. Why would you reasonably offer to take on this kind of work? I would kindly say no thank you to that kind of offer, too, because in my mind, how can there not be strings attached?

Also, my friends and I get LOTS of offers to do x, y, z. That does not mean that the person has the mad skillz. Ask my friend whose dining table had to be replaced! I would accept offers from someone who was personally known by a friend, and who was local.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 3/29/2009 9:20:07 AM

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It would be like trying to prosecute an attempted murder case if someone was into asphyxiation and their partner accidentally went too far.

People have been sent to prison, in both the US and the UK, for breath play gone wrong. If you google "autoerotic asphyxiation prosecution" you will get a lot of hits.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 4/4/2009 4:51:04 PM

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In that case then I hope he does show up and actually fixes Your floor for You. But if he doesn't, oh well, I guess You didn't get less than You expected. Kudo's though for calling these guys out on their usual bluffs.

Exactly, that is the point of this thread. How many of us actually answer their emails with a request that they either put up or shut up? Normally this kind of email gets the delete button without a backward glance.

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I usually ask if they can give a good foot rub or if they can wax my car. Unfortunately, they only wanna know if I can/will use a strap-on with them. *sigh*

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 4/6/2009 1:18:13 PM

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 4/6/2009 7:40:41 PM

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I always tell any sub that is petitioning me that I want them to live with me, go to work and come home, do the laundry, wash the dishes, and assist when I do heavy housework. I will cook. And I will make sure they get all the control and the play their little heart desires, sprinkled throughout our lives.

So far no one has taken me up on it.

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RE: "I'd go down on a law man for a kitchen floor&... - 4/6/2009 9:38:53 PM

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I'm really curious to hear if he's replied or fixed anything yet... I kind of could use a positive story!

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