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RE: Endorphins - 8/17/2004 6:28:11 AM

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afmvdp............ "Thank You" so very much for the info U posted, greatly apreciated.
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RE: Endorphins - 8/17/2004 8:22:48 AM

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Well, you and I would both have to be looking at the slave to say for sure whether we agreed about what we were seeing. I associate adrenalin crash with very shallow and sometimes ragged breathing, a skin tone that is on the pale side of the normal range for the slave, dry mouth, and sometimes intermittant "shivers". Upset stomach in extreme cases. What I was describing here would look very different. Flushed skin tone, deep breathing, muscle plasticity, reduced cognitive awareness, delayed reaction to stimulation, sometimes slurred speech, etc.

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RE: Endorphins - 8/17/2004 9:18:15 AM

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Now that we have a critical mass of chemists, M.D.s, D. M.s, nurses, biochemists, microbiologists, etc. here on the boards... I call the Collarme Endorphin Conference to order.

Endorphin is an affectionate nickname for "endogenous morphine" or "morphine produced from within". Although endorphins act like the pain-killer morphine, structurally endorphins are dissimilar. Morphine is an alkaloid, endorphins are peptides. They are both CNS drugs however, acting on the central nervous system (brain to you and me).

Now on to adrenalin. Adrenalin is not an endorphin. Adrenalin is a hormone, or a chemical messenger. It is produced in response to stress by the adrenal glands. This "fight or flight" hormone acts on many organ systems, not just the brain; it is an autonomic nervous system (ANS) drug. Adrenalin resembles the structure of amphetamine (or methamphetamine, which we might call speed.)

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RE: Endorphins - 8/17/2004 9:21:01 AM

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OK, now there are some poor guys standing around thinking "Hmmm.... now I'm not sure if I'm smart enough to beat this slave".

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RE: Endorphins - 8/17/2004 9:22:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: deannalynn
I have experienced endorphin highs in other contexts'.

deanna,

Do you feel that high when you've pleased your master? Have you experienced endorphins simply by serving?

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RE: Endorphins - 8/17/2004 9:54:21 AM

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In many ways the actual dynamics to the bonds formed in a D/s relation versus a vanilla one are not very far off, the primary difference would be an open acceptance of the positions in which we are to enact during the relationship. Also the mentality of the extremity of the situations are to form a stronger bond. In the most basic terms though it would be just as easy for you to become chemically addicted to a regular male off the street that you had a pheromonal attraction to as it would be for you to have that same relation with that male were he to be a Dom. The only change is that in your submission you allow him to fill a far larger void in your life and thus the importance level of said individual will raise in your psyche.

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RE: Endorphins - 8/17/2004 10:23:38 AM

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Do you feel that high when you've pleased your master? Have you experienced endorphins simply by serving?

January

Hi January,

Before reading this thread I would have just considered it my happy little place. Now I see that it probably has much to do with endorphins. I am not owned, but when I was, it certainly was better than any drug, and like a drug its very addicting. Just seeing a pleased smile could send me into my little place...( scary, sounds like Stuart from Mad tv.)

wishing you well,

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RE: Endorphins - 8/17/2004 6:19:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: January

Now that we have a critical mass of chemists, M.D.s, D. M.s, nurses, biochemists, microbiologists, etc. here on the boards... I call the Collarme Endorphin Conference to order.

Would the fact that I'm a transhumansist fall into play about this point? haha. Here I was thinking science wouldn't even come into play on these boards...silly me.

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RE: Endorphins - 8/17/2004 9:24:23 PM

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A/anyone who knows i am wrong please fell free to correct me because i really have no memory of how i learned this and so can quote no reference for my information:
The feeling of pain is mother natures way of telling us that there is something wrong. If we put our hand in the fire, we get a burning feeling to tell us that damage is being done and we need to remove our hand. When the damage stops though no one could take the pain of the burn for long, there fore we have endorphins. Endorphins are are the bodies natural painkiller, it is an actual substance released into the body to shut down the damaged nerve endings thereby stopping the pain. It also serves as a calmer so that a person is not so incopasitated by that pain that they can think of what to do for the damaged sustained. (forgive my spelling plz)

Endorphins are one of the reasons there is a BDSM lifestyle. If someone is hurt, their body will produce endorphins unless that gland is nonfunctional such as in the case of lepracy. If one is experiancing pain and pleasure, once the pain is stopped, the pleasure is multiplied x2-x3-x5 whatever the skill of the Top to build this level of endorphins in the blood stream.

Sometimes this can happen very quickly, most times not. When it does happen quickly it is known as a rush. This rush of endorphins can be almost as intoxicating as a rush from heroin, and by the by just as addictive. When a rush occures, nothing hurts, and i mean nothing. In fact any sensation at all can come across as pleasure. This state is also known as sub-space.

Therefore, by sending your mind elsewhere during the experiance of pain, you are getting endorphins, but you are avoiding the rush that can happen at the hands of a skilled patient Dominant.

Again, if any of this is wrong, please feel free to correct me.

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