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rulemylife -> Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/2/2009 9:46:47 AM)
I'm not too sure what to make of this one or how it's going to end up. Apparently the victim ran out into the middle of traffic, and even though the driver was above the alcohol limit, would he have been able to prevent it if he was stone-cold sober? Stallworth appears in Miami court in DUI case MIAMI – Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte Stallworth surrendered in court Thursday to face charges that he was driving drunk when he struck and killed a pedestrian after a night of drinking at a ritzy Miami Beach hotel. Stallworth, 28, was led away in handcuffs after a short hearing before Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Dennis Murphy. He was expected to be released on $200,000 bail later in the day. Stallworth attorney Christopher Lyons said he would "vigorously defend this case" and that the defense team has already begun its own probe into the March 14 crash that killed 59-year-old Mario Reyes. Lyons also expressed sympathy for the Reyes family. "We want to stress there are no winners here. It was a tragic accident," Lyons said......................... If convicted of DUI manslaughter, Stallworth faces a maximum of 15 years in prison................................... A police affidavit said Stallworth's blood-alcohol level after the crash was .126, well above Florida's legal limit of .08. Stallworth had been drinking at a club in the swank Fountainebleau hotel in the hours before he got behind the wheel of his black 2005 Bentley GT and headed out on the MacArthur Causeway that links Miami and Miami Beach, authorities said. Reyes, a construction crane operator just getting off work, was rushing across the causeway shortly after 7 a.m. to catch a bus home. He was not in the crosswalk when he was struck, and Stallworth told officers he flashed his lights and honked his horn in an attempt to warn Reyes.

DesFIP -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/2/2009 10:57:59 AM)
Jaywalking across the causeway? Not a good idea. However it does not mean that his blood alcohol level should be ignored. Because had he been sober, perhaps he would have been able to avoid the man.

CruelNUnsual -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/2/2009 2:55:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I'm not too sure what to make of this one or how it's going to end up. Apparently the victim ran out into the middle of traffic, and even though the driver was above the alcohol limit, would he have been able to prevent it if he was stone-cold sober? Stallworth appears in Miami court in DUI case MIAMI – Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte Stallworth surrendered in court Thursday to face charges that he was driving drunk when he struck and killed a pedestrian after a night of drinking at a ritzy Miami Beach hotel. Stallworth, 28, was led away in handcuffs after a short hearing before Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Dennis Murphy. He was expected to be released on $200,000 bail later in the day. Stallworth attorney Christopher Lyons said he would "vigorously defend this case" and that the defense team has already begun its own probe into the March 14 crash that killed 59-year-old Mario Reyes. Lyons also expressed sympathy for the Reyes family. "We want to stress there are no winners here. It was a tragic accident," Lyons said......................... If convicted of DUI manslaughter, Stallworth faces a maximum of 15 years in prison................................... A police affidavit said Stallworth's blood-alcohol level after the crash was .126, well above Florida's legal limit of .08. Stallworth had been drinking at a club in the swank Fountainebleau hotel in the hours before he got behind the wheel of his black 2005 Bentley GT and headed out on the MacArthur Causeway that links Miami and Miami Beach, authorities said. Reyes, a construction crane operator just getting off work, was rushing across the causeway shortly after 7 a.m. to catch a bus home. He was not in the crosswalk when he was struck, and Stallworth told officers he flashed his lights and honked his horn in an attempt to warn Reyes. and of course has nothing to do with the NFL notwithstanding the subject line

rulemylife -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/3/2009 7:57:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CruelNUnsual and of course has nothing to do with the NFL notwithstanding the subject line Well, he is an NFL player, he did commit a crime, and the article discusses his punishment. But by all means feel free not to post on threads that don't interest you.

CruelNUnsual -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/3/2009 8:01:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: CruelNUnsual and of course has nothing to do with the NFL notwithstanding the subject line Well, he is an NFL player, he did commit a crime, and the article discusses his punishment. But by all means feel free not to post on threads that don't interest you. But the neither the crime nor the punishment was "in the NFL". Feel free not to post when it makes no sense.

rulemylife -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/3/2009 8:18:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CruelNUnsual But the neither the crime nor the punishment was "in the NFL". Feel free not to post when it makes no sense. It was a play-on-words. You've probably at same point in your life ignored a pretty famous novel called "Crime and Punishment". But I'm not going to debate this petty nonsense with you, as I said though, feel free to comment on its subject.

cloudboy -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/3/2009 8:31:17 AM)
One cannot win by drinking and driving.

rulemylife -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/3/2009 8:42:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy One cannot win by drinking and driving. That's true, but the reality is we have societies where drinking is the accepted form of socializing yet we believe people will still not drive afterwards. And in reality, it's not drinking and driving that is illegal but drinking over an arbitrarily set limit that is difficult for someone to judge when they have crossed. Not trying to defend him, but it doesn't sound, from this and the other reports I've seen, that he was blind drunk.

DomImus -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/3/2009 12:54:29 PM)
I don't drive if I have been drinking nor do I drink if I expect to have to drive. Forget the arbitrary limits. The guy made a poor decision and it turned out badly all the way around and now he has to deal with it. This is the part that gets me: "Stallworth told officers he flashed his lights and honked his horn in an attempt to warn Reyes." He saw the guy in the roadway and had time to flash his lights and honk his horn but not to apply the brakes? I can't even find the horn on my truck but my feet can find the brake pedal almost instinctively in an emergency.

rulemylife -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/3/2009 2:36:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomImus I don't drive if I have been drinking nor do I drink if I expect to have to drive. Forget the arbitrary limits. The guy made a poor decision and it turned out badly all the way around and now he has to deal with it. This is the part that gets me: "Stallworth told officers he flashed his lights and honked his horn in an attempt to warn Reyes." He saw the guy in the roadway and had time to flash his lights and honk his horn but not to apply the brakes? I can't even find the horn on my truck but my feet can find the brake pedal almost instinctively in an emergency. That kind of struck me as odd at first, but on my car I would be able to do both while still keeping both hands on the wheel. And they said he was doing 50 mph so he probably had time to react, just not the distance to stop.

KatyLied -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/3/2009 6:01:04 PM)
He flashed his lights at the guy and still was unable to stop. Not feeling a lot of sympathy here. The NFL is full of criminals. sigh

domiguy -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/3/2009 6:05:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied He flashed his lights at the guy and still was unable to stop. Not feeling a lot of sympathy here. The NFL is full of criminals. sigh Jesus, the guy was inevitably not getting out of his way to get an autograph. You are not a real fan if your not willing to eat a little rubber for the home squad. It happens. Fuck Cutler. Hopefully Orton throws for 5,000 next year. Pack fan trapped in Chicago.

KatyLied -> RE: Crime and Punishment in the NFL (4/3/2009 6:19:40 PM)
I'm sorry, how did I forget that you love Precious (Favre), my bad.

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