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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 9:46:30 AM   
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Venatrix wrote: Are you trying to tell me you aren't into aural sex?

Note to self: if Venatrix says, `Come here,' seek clarification as to whether `here' or `hear'.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 1:07:56 PM   
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You'll have to speak up, PforH.  I've got this buzzing in my ears.


Calm down, dear.  You're always getting a bee in your bonnet about something. 

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 5:37:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: YoungLust

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ORIGINAL:  azjojoba
Men are at a disadvantage because if we are offered a woman's treasures we have no choice but to submit to her request. It's all at a DNA level.

Well that just sounds like a lack of self-control. Sounds like an excuse I've heard people use for cheating.


I agree, YoungLust.  I have been hearing men (and occasionally women who hate them) spout this kind of bizarre, sexist bs for most of my life.  I figured out very young that any man who talks this way is a Human Car Wreck at best, a potential rapist at worst.  Definitely no one that you would EVER want to be alone in a room with, much less try to have as a friend or a partner.

Men who claim to be "slaves to DNA" where women are concerned are at best making excuses for being self-involved, ego-crippled manwhores who can't think about anyone's feelings but their own.  At worst they are making excuses for sexual assault.  Either way, a smart woman gives them a very wide berth and warns her friends to do the same.

Men who are reasonably attractive to women and have healthy self-esteem do not seem to have any problem saying "No" to sex.  They also take responsibility for their choices in that regard.  They may respond viscerally to a sexual image, an idea or an attractive offer, but women do the same; nobody of either gender HAS to act on those impulses automatically, unless they have serious problems.

I can forgive a developmentally challenged man with a mental age of four when he sees a naked woman and feels the need to drop his trousers and masturbate furiously in the middle of a shopping mall.  I can forgive a woman with bipolar disorder who forgets why she isn't supposed to shag the whole football team in a single evening.  There are no excuses for the rest of us, and trying to take refuge in gender rhetoric is just pathetic. 


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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 5:44:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lockit
maybe a pity fuck that some pitiful dominant will offer to shut the man up from degrading women on this board.


Nothing could ever possibly be worth it.  And besides, I wouldn't want azjojoba to leave:  I find his posts irritating and creepy, but I recognize that he's a highly effective "Don't Let This Happen To You" poster child for other men.

Azjojoba's Lesson of the Day:  Saying "Women (of any orientation) don't like/don't want sex" is the ultimate self-fulfilling prophecy!





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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 10:25:16 PM   
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I have to agree with Lady Hib here, azjojoba: dominant women of all ages are as randy as polecats and up for it 24/7 from what I know.


Yes, most of them want 24/7, and they usually say no sex will be involved. It's actually kind of funny -- what are they thinking? If a guy agreed to both of those conditions there must be something wrong with him.

I have been with quite a few dominant women. It's very rare for them to want fucking, although they do seem to enjoy oral sex and can get orgasms sometimes just by spanking or being a bitch. It's kind of weird because intuitively you would think the more dominant women are the more they would want to fuck, but it's just the opposite.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 10:31:10 PM   
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This is another notion that you need to disabuse yourself of.  My experience has been that more dominant women like sex than don't.  I certainly like it a great deal and I have no interest in a relationship with a sub where sex is not part of the equation.  And your other contention, that post-menopausal women don't want sex, is also wrong.  I'm not going to argue that some post-menopausal women don't like it, but I know plenty of older women who do.  When I was cleaning out my mother's flat, I came across some rather steamy love letters that were written to her when she was well into her 70s.

I will be 50 in three weeks and my sex drive is as high as it ever was.  This is probably too much information, but, as I wait for the right man to come along, I'm wearing out vibrators at an alarming rate.  If your contention holds true, that must be because they don't make them as sturdily as they used to.  Couldn't possibly be from frequent use, could it? 


OK, babe, I just haven't seen the dommes that want to fuck, but every one I have been with wants sex of some other kind.

As for the perfect right man -- there aren't any, and that's why vibrators wear out so fast.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 10:36:15 PM   
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Then you tell men they aren't really men because no man really wants chastity.


Say what? I never said that. You must be getting me confused with somebody else. I did say that I don't think men would put up with a chastity belt for more than a short term kink. I don't even think it's a healthy idea.

Of course there are exceptions to everything, and I'm sure there are men who wear chastity belts. Good luck finding one though.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 10:40:59 PM   
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OK, babe, I just haven't seen the dommes that want to fuck, but every one I have been with wants sex of some other kind.

As for the perfect right man -- there aren't any, and that's why vibrators wear out so fast.



Well, this seems to be a problem only you encounter.  Perhaps there's something about your genitalia that is unappealing? 

As far as a perfect man goes, I never said I was looking for one.  I said I was looking for the right one.  If I were willing to lower my standards, finding a man would be a simple thing, indeed.

And, please, don't call me "babe."

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 10:43:35 PM   
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Men that say they can turn down sex are just liars. If you feel better with men that are good liars then that's OK with me. I can see it now -- you tell some guy that you are starving for sex, they turn you down, and then you fall all over them. I don't have a problem with games like that. Whatever floats your boat!

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 10:52:28 PM   
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This is another notion that you need to disabuse yourself of.  My experience has been that more dominant women like sex than don't. 


Babe, I hope you are right, but at least if CM is used as an example that's just not the case. Do a search in your area for dominant women looking for sub men, and filter it to over 40 years old. The first thing you will notice is that the number of ads drop exponentially for each year after the age of 40. Of those ads, almost all the women say they don't want sex.

Now it could be that all of those women are lying, but I have no way of judging that. I have to take what they say at face value.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 10:57:28 PM   
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Well, this seems to be a problem only you encounter.  Perhaps there's something about your genitalia that is unappealing? 

As far as a perfect man goes, I never said I was looking for one.  I said I was looking for the right one.  If I were willing to lower my standards, finding a man would be a simple thing, indeed.

And, please, don't call me "babe."


My genitalia is rather average. I doubt that's the problem

As to your contention that it's a problem that only I encounter -- get real! I refuse to believe you are that clueless.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 11:00:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lockit -- I don't want a pity fuck. I am very disappointed that you would suggest such a thing after everything I have written. 

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 11:06:18 PM   
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My genitalia is rather average. I doubt that's the problem

As to your contention that it's a problem that only I encounter -- get real! I refuse to believe you are that clueless.



No, I'm not even remotely clueless.  You just refuse to listen to dozens of women explaining why you are wrong in your assumptions.  I would call you pig-headed, but that would be an insult to pigs everywhere.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 11:09:49 PM   
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maybe a pity fuck that some pitiful dominant will offer to shut the man up from degrading women on this board.


Nothing could ever possibly be worth it.  And besides, I wouldn't want azjojoba to leave:  I find his posts irritating and creepy, but I recognize that he's a highly effective "Don't Let This Happen To You" poster child for other men.

Azjojoba's Lesson of the Day:  Saying "Women (of any orientation) don't like/don't want sex" is the ultimate self-fulfilling prophecy!



OK, I'll admit that I'm irritating. No doubt about it. Call it one of my personality flaws.

I'm not creepy though. I'm just more honest than 99% of the guys that will say anything you want to hear in order to fuck you.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 11:12:13 PM   
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[No, I'm not even remotely clueless.  You just refuse to listen to dozens of women explaining why you are wrong in your assumptions.  I would call you pig-headed, but that would be an insult to pigs everywhere.


OINK!

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 11:33:08 PM   
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ShaktiSama


Men that say they can turn down sex are just liars. If you feel better with men that are good liars then that's OK with me. I can see it now -- you tell some guy that you are starving for sex, they turn you down, and then you fall all over them. I don't have a problem with games like that. Whatever floats your boat!


It's not a game. Some of us actually don't find emotionless sex fulfilling. I've had sex with a person I didn't care about and I've had sex with someone I was in love with... and a point in between.

I've turned down sex from people I feel nothing for. Physical attraction alone isn't enough to get me into bed (well, with some exceptions). Some of us aren't a slave to our biological need or the standards society has set in place for what a man should desire. I don't need frivolous sex with many partners.

Not every man is as weak as you, luckily.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/25/2009 11:49:10 PM   
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Men that say they can turn down sex are just liars.


Or maybe men that can turn down sex are men who can afford to say no once in a while, because they get offered sex more often than Christ walks the earth.
 



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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/26/2009 12:07:41 AM   
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Men that say they can turn down sex are just liars.


Or maybe men that can turn down sex are men who can afford to say no once in a while, because they get offered sex more often than Christ walks the earth.


You have been reading too many pulp fiction novels.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/26/2009 4:13:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Men that say they can turn down sex are just liars.

Wrong.

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RE: male fukking female as domming but f to m?? - 4/26/2009 6:50:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think you have to consider the circumstances.  There really is a difference between someone wanting sex and the potential of who the sex might be with.  If there's no chemistry, passion or desire, of course the person isn't going to want to sleep with them.  There's a big difference between finding someone attractive and someone that just completely turns you off for various reasons.  The size of genitalia can't make up for someone who another finds  undesirable.

Off the subject, of course.  I just happen to think that most women, Dominant or not, are going to have a healthier sexual appetite when their partner is someone that excites, rather than  someone that kills their sex drive.


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