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RE: Report: Abusive tactics used to seek Iraq-al Qaida ... - 4/27/2009 10:23:46 PM   
Owner59


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Morale is up.

Deal w/ it.

Anyone remember what happened to those poor saps who were ordered to abuse prisoners at Abu-ghraib, then were sold down river as scapegoats to cover bush`s sorry ass?

Are they still in the brig?

Now that,was a huge morale booster. Much like leaking the ID of an active agent in the clandestine service.

Fuck`n coward bush.

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RE: Report: Abusive tactics used to seek Iraq-al Qaida ... - 4/27/2009 11:31:00 PM   
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The majority of links between Iraq and Al-Quida were discovered during the Clinton Administration:

1). Ramsi Yusef--the plotter of the original 9/11 attacks fled to Iraq after the first attack on the World Trade Center, ironically on the 2th Anniversary of the Iraq's surrender during Desert Storm.
2) His uncle BTW is Khalid Sheik Muhhammed, Al-Quida's no.2
3). Additional suspects in the first World Trade Center attack also fled to Iraq, including one that was interviewed by ABC News. When ABC news asked the CLINTON Justice Department why they weren't go after the man, they replied that they couldn't do anything because he's in Iraq.
4). The Clinton Justice Department in New York under US Attorney MaryJo White filed an indictment--that's legal lingo meaning that there is enough for persecution--linking Al Quida with Iraq, which include evidence of Iraq's desire to develop WMD's.
5). Yousif entered the US on a Kuwait passport, which may have been stolen from the Kuwaiti department of interior when Iraq invaded in 1990.
6). CIA spy satellites photographed the body of 707 that Iraq used to train terrorists to take over airliners at a secret Iraqi intelligence base. Sound familiar?
7). Documents recovered both AND after Operation Iraqi freedom uncovered dozens of more links between Saddam and Bin Laden including monetary and material support from Iraq's intelligence services to Bin Laden.
8). Documents confiscated after the first World Trade Center attack by the FBI uncovered more connections between Iraq and Al Quida--unfortunately, the FBI didn't and still doesn't have enough Arab translators to decipher them all.
9) A New York Federal Judge--appointed by Bill Clinton--ruled in a case filed by the families of 2 victims of the 9/11 attacks that there was enough evidence to hold Iraq and Saddam liable for both the attack itself and it's connections to Bin Laden.

What's amazing is that when Clinton was in power, everyone in the news media knew that Saddam was an SOB, and even The New York Times urged Bush '41 to finish Operation Desert Storm by taking it all to Baghdad. But, suddenly when Bush '43 was doing something that Clinton and other's who called themselves "liberals" should've been doing, they all changed their minds. I shouldn't even mention how all the Dems thought Saddam was such a threat when they were in charge in 1990's, but---you know what, I'm going to:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

Again, people like to talk tough, but there is a difference between talking and doing...And that is where one becomes a man or stays a boy.

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RE: Report: Abusive tactics used to seek Iraq-al Qaida ... - 4/27/2009 11:35:51 PM   
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There were no operational links.

None.

In fact,Hussein was killing the radicals and jehadist types.

One has to remember that this BS is coming from the same crew that dropped the ball on 9/11.

This aren`t brite people.It`s almost as if being anti-intellectual is a virtue w/ these guys.

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RE: Report: Abusive tactics used to seek Iraq-al Qaida ... - 4/28/2009 1:21:05 AM   
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Subrob, your last post makes no sense. Like it or not the link shows your first comment was wrong. Spouting nonsense about a hand picked audience is futile.

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RE: Report: Abusive tactics used to seek Iraq-al Qaida ... - 4/28/2009 2:13:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gman992

The majority of links between Iraq and Al-Quida were discovered during the Clinton Administration:

1). Ramsi Yusef--the plotter of the original 9/11 attacks fled to Iraq after the first attack on the World Trade Center, ironically on the 2th Anniversary of the Iraq's surrender during Desert Storm.
2) His uncle BTW is Khalid Sheik Muhhammed, Al-Quida's no.2
3). Additional suspects in the first World Trade Center attack also fled to Iraq, including one that was interviewed by ABC News. When ABC news asked the CLINTON Justice Department why they weren't go after the man, they replied that they couldn't do anything because he's in Iraq.
4). The Clinton Justice Department in New York under US Attorney MaryJo White filed an indictment--that's legal lingo meaning that there is enough for persecution--linking Al Quida with Iraq, which include evidence of Iraq's desire to develop WMD's.
5). Yousif entered the US on a Kuwait passport, which may have been stolen from the Kuwaiti department of interior when Iraq invaded in 1990.
6). CIA spy satellites photographed the body of 707 that Iraq used to train terrorists to take over airliners at a secret Iraqi intelligence base. Sound familiar?
7). Documents recovered both AND after Operation Iraqi freedom uncovered dozens of more links between Saddam and Bin Laden including monetary and material support from Iraq's intelligence services to Bin Laden.
8). Documents confiscated after the first World Trade Center attack by the FBI uncovered more connections between Iraq and Al Quida--unfortunately, the FBI didn't and still doesn't have enough Arab translators to decipher them all.
9) A New York Federal Judge--appointed by Bill Clinton--ruled in a case filed by the families of 2 victims of the 9/11 attacks that there was enough evidence to hold Iraq and Saddam liable for both the attack itself and it's connections to Bin Laden.



So many fun-filled facts.  So little to document where they came from.

Tell me, are you just trying to throw enough shit against the wall in the hopes something will stick?

I could spend all day proving false nearly every single point you made, but the links below address at least half of them, so that will have to suffice for now.



Report: Secret Post-9/11 Mission Debunked Ramzi Yousef-Iraq Link ...

Shortly after September 11, the FBI helped investigate — and disprove — Laurie Mylroie's theory that Ramzi Yousef was an Iraqi intelligence agent using another man's identity, Newsweek reported Wednesday.

Performed at the insistence of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, the investigation refuted one of Mylroie's primary claims, that Ramzi Yousef was an Iraqi intelligence officer, Newsweek said, sourcing the report to unnamed Justice Department officials.

A controversial academic reputed to have significant support within the Bush Administration, Mylroie claims Yousef was an Iraqi who switched identities with Abdul Basit, a Pakistani, after the invasion of Kuwait. Mylroie's theories and analysis of alleged Iraqi support for specific terrorist acts is known to have influenced Vice President Dick Cheney, and her opinions are thought to have influenced the administration's decision to go to war in Iraq.

+ Click here for the Newsweek article.

....................................The misconception that Yousef was an Iraqi began with the first news accounts of the 1993 attack, which reported his national origin incorrectly because he had entered the country using an Iraqi passport. Yousef had dozens of forged passports and identity cards. During a 1994 airplane bombing, for instance, he traveled posing as an Italian.


An Iraqi named Abdul Rahman Yasin was involved in the 1993 bombing and fled to Iraq after the attack. Vice President Dick Cheney has repeatedly charged that Saddam Hussein's regime sheltered Yasin and rewarded him for his role in the bombing. However, the BBC and CBS News reported in 2002 that Yasin had been arrested in 1994 and had been a prisoner of the Saddam regime since.


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