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what i look for in a good Owner - 2/1/2006 8:14:10 PM   
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i was speaking with a few people recently about what characteristics make up the right kind of Dominant. The one thing we all agreed upon is that NONE of us agreed on pretty much anything at all.

Now before dispair sets in...we did happen to come to a conclusion. When a slave is able to proudly say Master owns me with a beaming smile upon her face...when she sighs with a bit of dreaminess at the thought of His touch. Well those are pretty good earmarks that her owner is doing something right.

i often quip about Master M being a pain in my ass and a bastard...grins that is [i]always followed by the remark isnt He ever wrong??? good grief why must He always be right and know whats best for me?!?!?!?? As a good Man a good Dominant, He SHOWS me daily His strength in character without needing to boast or brag or carry a big whip to get me to submit.

OH NO you say you are a pain slut!! That doesnt mean you are submissive...i learned that one the hard way...as i do all the lessons Master wants to teach me. While i enjoy the flog (yummy yummy) my punishment does not come from a beating. it does not come from neglect or abuse or being yelled at. Instead as a good Master should, He took His time to figure out exactly what i needed to motivate me without a word or a touch. His actions speak for Him.

After being His for over 3 years now the way i float when He enters a room or the sound of His name the scent of His cologne still make me soar...His absence my dispair, are earmarks of what a good Master is.

When a slave can feel complete in her service, when her devotion never wavers, when her submission comes from the depth of her soul not to just anyone but to that special One, that tells that He is obviously doing something right.

i look around at other C/couples and watch how they speak of their owners sometimes or the owners speak about their subs or slaves. After 17 years in this lifestyle i sometimes can tell wow that M/s couple are really going to last for a long time. i often quote Master M. it is like an echo that comes from deep within me passing along His sage advice. Others respond to it usually with a few typical answers...gee that sounds like my Master is the one that is my favorite...smiles...or i wish Master saw things that way (with a longing in their voice) that is my least favorite. There are of course other replies and such that go in between but the majortiy fall within those two realms.

So what sets Him apart from others? His dominance comes from within Him. He dominates from a place of strength that is internal...He doesnt boast it, force me into anything or beat it into someone. He respects my submission and treasures it. i CHOOSE to surrender control to Him because He has taken TIME, CARE, RESPECT, to earn it from me. He once told me that He prefers to build a relationship slowly so that it lasts going on to say that those that rush like a fire burn out quickly.

i admit i am not the easiest person to dominate. He knows that i am difficult and impuslive, sometimes moody, reluctant, deliberately obtuse, a sarcastic pain in the ass, oh the list continues (Master if You read this i am sure You can add a bunch of my finer qualities grins and blushes) but, when Master asks me for something i (with that one exception) do not hesitate a bit to surrender and give all that i can to please and serve Him. He deserves nothing less and so very much more.

There is one area that Master has been after me for months to do. i come up with excuses. It is not that i am a bad submissive or a horrible slave. i pretty much have said how high while on the way up when He tells me to jump but, we all have flaws. i am learning a harsh lesson like i should and am grateful to do as such. That is another thing i look for in a good Owner do i enjoy His punishment? no!! not one bit!! However, a punishment is sometimes necessary to make a submissive grow and develop a sign of a good Master is when a sub or in my case slave can appreciate the lesson being taught and respect her owner MORE for distributing that caring discipline.

So while i cannot say look for A, B, and C to find a good Owner i CAN say look for someone who is worthy of your submission and will treat it with respect. Look for someone you can respect and who is compatable for your needs and desires. Each relationship is unique as no two individuals are the same and there is no one size fits all dominant. Search for what completes you. BE CAREFUL for those who would take your submission and use it against you and as always BE SAFE AND SMILE purrrs kitty ps what sort of traits do you look for in an Owner and Dom/mes what do You look for in a submissive?

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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 6:40:50 AM   
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What are the signs/traits of a good Dom/me?

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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 8:38:32 AM   
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I could make a list of charachter traits...or a long meandering thoughtful post...but misskittyslave you said it so well. I will add but just a bit for now and reserve the right to think on it and come back later.

Whatever works for you and your partner is what makes a good dominant.


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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 9:05:33 AM   
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an unlimited supply of fine chocolate...


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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 9:37:47 AM   
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quote:

an unlimited supply of fine chocolate...

hmmmmmm....have you been talking to my Pet?

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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 10:00:02 AM   
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i was speaking with a few people recently about what characteristics make up the right kind of Dominant.
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that, IMHO...is the 1st mistake.
do you really care what anyone else thinks?
you wrote a good piece here.

but YOU have NO need of anyone else's opinion..you seem to already have a head square on your shoulders.
i'm proud of you.

be well
stay safe


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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 11:25:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

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an unlimited supply of fine chocolate...

hmmmmmm....have you been talking to my Pet?


Sorry, that is priveledged information.

I am not allowed to divulge that.

I cannot be bought...

(for some swiss chocolate truffles, perhaps we could negotiate though...)

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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 2:37:20 PM   
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Oh you silly subs and slaves... Don't you know the BEST Doms/Masters are GUITAR PLAYERS?!!

hee hee hee (runs off to avoid being pelted by random flying objects thrown at him)


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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 3:15:01 PM   
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A cowboy hat, a tattoo, and one hell of a southern drawl



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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 3:44:03 PM   
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quote:

A cowboy hat, a tattoo, and one hell of a southern drawl


and the BOOTS don't forget the BOOTS!


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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 3:49:07 PM   
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quote:

and the BOOTS don't forget the BOOTS!


You are correct Swtnsparkling...How on earth could I possibly forget the boots?

/smacks forehead

Ok...a cowboy hat, a tattoo,. one hell of a southern drawl, COWBOY BOOTS....

/nods

I think that covers it

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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 4:45:49 PM   
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Make your list. I have mine, and I've been fine tuning it. I'm trying to find the overlap between what I *want* and what I *need*. There is some conflict between those two and I'm trying to find that place in the middle (think: ven diagram), where I can have both.



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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/2/2006 7:30:00 PM   
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What i look for in a god owner is simple: honesty, dominance, the feeling that he'll protect me, even from myself

There are other thing, depending on the Man, but without those first, there can't be anything else.

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RE: what i look for in a good Owner - 2/5/2006 9:38:12 AM   
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In 2003, I wrote a blog post called "Leave the Laundry List at Home." In it, I shared that:

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My position, as a submissive, has never been to not go at a dominant, initially, with a laundry list of expectations and limits, but instead to be enticing (in an authentic way), vulnerable and open, to listen to the dominant's needs and desires, and to try to be pleasing... both in manner and in the way I discuss things with him. In other words, it's my job to show myself in the best possible light.

And it's not that I am without my own needs in a relationship -- trust me, I'm not completely selfless. Instead, it's that I believe, and have, in fact, found to be true, that when I am most open, and most pleasing, a discussion of needs can happen in a way that can be really heard.

There's an old saying -- something like, "I can't hear you because your message screams so loudly." Being quietly pleasing, rather than wanting to fight a battle of wills has always seemed to me to be more easily heard by dominant men.

I have found, in fact, that when a man finds me pleasing, he's likely to be far more understanding of my needs. If I were to go at him like a raging bull, why would he care to listen, much less work to understand me?

IMO... it's not the dominant's job to woo a submissive. Instead, it's her's to show herself worthy of his time and attention.


Ironically, around the same time I found myself again looking, and frustrated by the caliber of dominants (not snotty--just truthful) I encountered. And so, for myself, I created what I called my 'Ideal Dominant Profile." Personally, it was the best thing I'd ever done because it gave me the clarity to look at dominants in a way that was a bit new for me.

While I never expected to find someone who matched 100%, I knew I wouldn't settle for much less. It really helped me quickly dismiss those men I met who weren't right for me. And when I found him, two years ago, I was so intimately connected to what I wanted and needed (because I'd done the IDP), that it didn't take long for me to recognize him.

In case it's helpful to anyone, here's what was included (not in any real order, btw!):

My ideal dominant is:
  • Loving -- genuinely loves me, but will probably not be "in love" with me. Will not mind if I'm in love with him.
  • Devoted -- in different ways than I am, but with the same level of commitment, to me and to the relationship.
  • Experienced (with implements, activities, control -- anything he's going to do to me or require of me)
  • Self-assured/self-possessed/self-controlled -- knows himself well. Doesn't need to posture with me. At home in his own skin. His world goes as he plans.
  • Understands his capacity and rarely exceeds it. Makes adjustments to his commitments when he is overwhelmed. Sees his submissive as a commitment he can't "adjust," except in urgent or unexpected situations/circumstances (and then only for the short term).
  • Sees the relationship with me as inviolate as he would see the relationship with his own child. Is interested in owning me for the rest of my life.
  • Strong (internally)
  • Directive. Sees a difference between my saying, “may I get you a drink, Sir,” and *telling* me to get him a drink, and routinely prefers the latter.
  • Mature/wise
  • Urbane/Courteous -- does not see it as a weakness to be courteous to his submissive.
  • Responsible (easily -- doesn't see owning me, dealing with me, etc., as a burden)
  • Kind
  • Compassionate
  • Non-smoker/non, or occasional drinker/uses no drugs
  • Accepting of my physical limitations
  • Reliable -- does what he says he'll do, when he says he'll do it. If he can't, he calls as soon as possible, before or after to explain. Doesn't leave me hanging, ever.
  • Consistent
  • Trustworthy
  • Truthful and forthright, even when a topic or conversation will be difficult.
  • Honorable
  • Intelligent (knowledge)/street smart (life experience)/ahead of me in many ways -- otherwise, how can he guide me?
  • A life-long learner. He’s probably done some pretty significant inner work, alone or with the help of a terrific therapist. Doesn’t have a lot of baggage… but what he has is handsomely made and perfectly matched <wink>.
  • Older -- probably at least 5 years
  • Accepting of me (the whole package)
  • Genuinely celebrates my achievements/actively encourages growth -- doesn't just pay lip service to it. Inspires me to my own greatness.
  • Allows me to be his greatest fan and cheerleader, contributing to his success in whatever ways are appropriate.
  • One who expects me to give him everything I am and isn’t willing to share me.
  • Patient
  • Private -- no clubs, parties, public play, etc.
  • Welcoming -- basically tells me I'm welcome in his life for the rest of his life, come what may... this is like bedrock to me
  • Dominant/controlling/imperious/intransigent/unequivocal -- his way, period. Expects immediate obedience, compromise is not the norm.... but all this, too, is tempered by his intelligence, kindness, and sense of what's "right." Never domineering or a bully – he can easily control me without having to “beat” me down to get what he wants.
  • Can/will absolutely own his own stuff; doesn't have to make me wrong so he can be right. Can admit to mistakes, apologize, make amends, and move on.
  • Exudes a calm, controlled presence -- "fills" a space when he's in it, and that presence alone inspires me to my knees (figuratively and literally). Doesn’t need me to make him feel big – he *is* big.
  • Expresses clear expectations/rules and follows up on them; doesn't micro-manage
  • Highly sexual, but doesn't see D/s as entirely or mostly sexual, and would never refer to himself as a "sexual dominant."
  • Isn't into (or could take/leave) the bulk of the trappings of BDSM (fetish fashion and the like)
  • Successful/accomplished -- probably very creative, or high white-collar professional
  • Solvent--this doesn't mean he has to be wealthy, but it does mean he supports himself and handles his financial responsibilities easily.
  • Cultured --- can be a broad range... but has to have more going on than sports and beer. Probably musical in some way, or plays an interesting sport (probably individual, not team).
  • Focused
  • Has/makes time for me, come what may, especially if I’m upset/hurt/need help.
  • Wants to put his hand in my life deeply -- offering guidance and direction. Realizes that I can't be “parked” (set aside) for long periods of time and remain whole.
  • Soulful/spiritual -- has strong beliefs, even if he doesn't engage in any specific practices.
  • Respectful of others (including me)
  • Absolutely commands my attention and respect (without having to *do* anything specific)
  • Literate
  • Verbal
  • Witty/has a good sense of humor
  • Compelling
  • Doesn't believe in ignoring me, ever. Can require me to heel... and can withdraw to process whatever needs processing, but communicates what's happening to me before it happens, and makes time to discuss things after.
  • Doesn't step over important conversations (including conversations that might be important to just me -- in other words, gets that what's important to me ultimately will be important to him in some context).
  • Isn't so sensitive that I feel I have to dance around him when I have something to discuss (can hear "it doesn't feel like you're being responsible," for example)
  • Arrogant to a degree -- but it's tempered. Is not at all narcissistic. (There’s a difference between healthy self-love and narcissism, and I know what it is)
  • Desires/Requires service of various sorts, and easily finds ways for me to serve whether we're together or apart. Enjoys my geisha-like way of being, and has no problem accepting my service to make his life better and easier.
  • Has no problem with my being married, and is probably married himself (in an open marriage like mine). If not married, doesn't necessarily desire to get married. If married, wants to stay that way, and has no illusion that I’ll be leaving my marriage to live as his slave.
  • Believes in communication that's frequent and mentally/emotionally intimate
  • Wants to know me inside and out -- to some degree, finds me fascinating, even if that's not verbalized.
  • Makes me feel completely vulnerable/exposed, yet utterly safe
  • Acknowledges me for service. Gives positive feedback. Is unconditionally constructive.
  • Values me and shows it -- doesn't think that making me a priority on occasion puts me in the driver seat, but also doesn't smother me with attention and gifts and such. Will remember my birthday and important holidays and will mark them with appropriate gifts.
  • Whatever kind of character traits and behaviors are expected of me are also shown to me by him. (for instance, if he expects me to explain myself to him, he's willing to do the same at times)
  • Expects me to adjust/wrap around his needs, but also gets that if he doesn't pay attention to mine, it's unlikely that I'll stick around.
  • Understands that when I feel unvalued, I get disconnected and lost. Is not into devaluation in any context, ever.
  • Has no fears of intimacy
  • Enjoys all "normal" physical intimacies and a variety of things that might be seen as more kinky
  • Enjoys a moderate level of ritual and protocol
  • There is a reciprocity to his dominance (he gives and gets in mostly equal measure) -- not because *I* expect it, but because it's fair and *he* is fair.
  • Protective of me
  • Is monogamous only if it's by his own choosing. Would never be poly if he felt he couldn't "do right" by the women he owned. I have no intrinsic objection to poly, itself.... just to how it's done, and whether it's done well. If anyone suffers, it's not done well, and I won't participate. My preference, however, would be that this not be a poly D/s relationship.
  • Is not a "service" oriented dominant (meaning on who sees himself as serving my needs), but makes sure my needs are met, and offers up some of my wants as well.
  • Will commit to an ever deepening of my submission to him. This will require thought, time, energy, connection, patience, kindness, and love. Compels me to give more.
  • If he's a sadist, he will realize that I'll take pain for him to please him, but that I don't find pain fascinating, and it does nothing for me (erotically). Is not emotionally or mentally sadistic.
  • Physically (caveat... who a man is, and the chemistry i feel for him is far more important to me than looks -- but this *is* my "ideal" profile, right? so here we go): at least as tall as i am (5'11"), fit or close to it. dark haired, or even bald. facial hair or not. a hairy chest. beautiful eyes and smile. hands that make me wet just looking at them (don't have to be huge.. just beautifully proportioned). nice legs. looks great (and is comfortable) in everything from jeans to a finely tailored Italian suit. tattoos are ok -- just not an overabundance of them, or in amazingly visible locations (i like a pierced ear on a man -- i'm not thrilled by pierced nipples or other erotic piercings -- they wouldn't be deal-breakers, but... ).
So... there it is. If you were to create your own IDP (or, for the dominants, your own ISP <Ideal Submissive/Slave Profile>, what would it look like?

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