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RE: Request for toilet services - 2/8/2006 12:04:06 AM   
lockedhusband2


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

The most amusing part of all of this is that you still think he was asking a legitimate question and left in frustration because no one had a realistic answer for him. The realistic answer was given: "What turns on a femdom about an act will vary from woman to woman. You need to ask your partner." Period. That was not a suitable answer for him. Why? Well, one can speculate.

And "So let's just forget that I asked anything" is a temper tantrum thrown for attention. If he didn't care or want to continue he'd just stop reading the thread. He was making a POINT to go "wahhhhhhhh" and storm out of the room.

Akasha


I think you sum it up very nicely.

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RE: Request for toilet services - 2/8/2006 12:08:04 AM   
lockedhusband2


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ORIGINAL: strob

And btw, I will make sure I ask my partner about it as You suggested...I was planning to do so, anyway, I just wanted to be a little more informed priorly.
I just might share her answer with You, who knows


Good Luck strob, let us know her response....

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RE: Request for toilet services - 2/8/2006 5:09:19 PM   
knees2you


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So lets just forget that I asked anything....


This quote would have been a good first posting.

I too read and re~read what he had to say when 1st.
posting this.

To me it even sounded a little Strange?

quote:

"Honey Slave I know You love Me, would You please
be so kind as to
open Your mouth and let me go #2.
I just want You to Swallow it. Don't worry about a thing,
it will be alright."


I used this Quote as an example. No He did not mention it.

If I was with a Mistress, {and I have been Collared twice real time.}
If we had pretty much set Our limits and Boundries
and then let's just say out of the blue She mentions the Quote
above.

If I was to say Whoa lets think about this, I don't think
She's going to say.
Get away from me I don't want to ever see You again?

I hope You talked it out with Her.

What kills Him, might not Kill You? {etc}

quote:

"You have been chosen to speak, but do You speak what You have chosen?"


Sincerely, Ant

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RE: Request for toilet services - 2/10/2006 10:45:29 AM   
strob


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to know it is to try it

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RE: Request for toilet services - 2/10/2006 11:20:36 AM   
BitaTruble


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What I am asking here is this; if there is a dom lady on this site that has experience in such acts and she really enjoys them, could you please describe what is it about having human toilet that excites you and brings you satisfaction?
I would simply like to know how exactly would I be satisfying her, which of her needs would I be indulging?


Strob,

No one here is going to be able to tell you 'exactly' how you would be satisfying her because we just don't know her motivations for requesting such from you.

I'd also like to point out that you are making a rather large assumption here as well. You assume that it excites her and brings her satisfaction when she may just be testing your boundaries to see if you 'will' do it. You saying 'yes' may be all she wants to hear. Talk to her Strob, educate yourself on the safety issues, then make your decision, not on what you 'think' she wants to hear, but whether or not you are capable of serving her in this area. Often times submissives are not privy to the 'whys and wherefores' of what our Dominants ask of us. Let it be enough for you that she has asked for her own personal reasons and make your choices based on your submission to her and not her Dominance over you. You've already stated that you will probably do it, so the rest is really moot.

Good luck,

Celeste

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RE: Request for toilet services - 2/15/2006 9:31:39 AM   
strob


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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Strob,

No one here is going to be able to tell you 'exactly' how you would be satisfying her because we just don't know her motivations for requesting such from you.

I'd also like to point out that you are making a rather large assumption here as well. You assume that it excites her and brings her satisfaction when she may just be testing your boundaries to see if you 'will' do it. You saying 'yes' may be all she wants to hear. Talk to her Strob, educate yourself on the safety issues, then make your decision, not on what you 'think' she wants to hear, but whether or not you are capable of serving her in this area. Often times submissives are not privy to the 'whys and wherefores' of what our Dominants ask of us. Let it be enough for you that she has asked for her own personal reasons and make your choices based on your submission to her and not her Dominance over you. You've already stated that you will probably do it, so the rest is really moot.

Good luck,

Celeste



Thank you Celeste, your reply was really the best one I got for my post

thx again
strob

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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/5/2006 6:55:11 AM   
scatpeeprincess


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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/5/2006 7:06:46 AM   
strob


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ORIGINAL: scatpeeprincess

go to my yah## group it's called toyletprincess.

P


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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/7/2006 12:58:56 PM   
slave23225


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Status: offline 		here group got deleted she has the hottest blogs ***********************


[Mod Note: message edited. Please do not give out contact information for yourself or other users in the forums. It's not allowed.]

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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/12/2006 1:21:37 AM   
tallsub74


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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/12/2006 8:02:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist
The question I really want to ask is what does it taste like? And don't tell me it tastes like lemonade, I won't believe you.


My boi tells Me it tastes like watered down ammonia or dissolved Epsoms salts. Probably a pretty fair description.

Texas Maam

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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/12/2006 8:22:00 AM   
ownedgirlie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: TexasMaam


quote:

ORIGINAL: MichMasochist
The question I really want to ask is what does it taste like? And don't tell me it tastes like lemonade, I won't believe you.


My boi tells Me it tastes like watered down ammonia or dissolved Epsoms salts. Probably a pretty fair description.

Texas Maam


i would imagine it depends on the person. In my experience there is nothing "watered down" about it...it is quite strong and bitter, but it depends on how much water he has had to drink. i have asked him to have a couple of shots of whiskey first next time....

For him it is not a fetish that excites him, rather an intimate moment he shares with his slave, relishing in the depth of her submission. Performing various acts is not always about sexual arousal.

Bita, once again your post was dead-on. On all points.

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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/18/2006 4:18:01 AM   
SenseANDseamus


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Status: offline 		So, check this out. I have read all previous 52 posts to RE:Request for toilet services. It is interesting to see other peoples' perspectives and very interesting to read a variety of responses from dominant women.

In this second paragraph, I will be responding purely with the scientific nature regarding the ingesting of fecal matter--devoid of opinion or suggestion. I provide this information from the experiences I have had as a Food Microbiologist for a number of years and the collegiate study of Biology. The following paragraph will elaborate more of my personal experiences as a male in a loving relationship with my female partner regarding such acts. There are two very prolific and leathal pathogens in feces (human or otherwise): Listeria monocytogenes and Eschereshia coli 0157H7! Listeria monocytogenes is a pathogenic species that seeks out the white blood cells, called Monocytes (the immune system's main line defense), and then invades those monocytes, takes over the white blood cells as incubation chambers. The pathogen (virus) then replicates itself within the white blood cell until the numerous new replications simply can't fit any more in the white blood cell and burst out (lyse) of the monocyte, of course killing that white blood cell and reducing the immune system. This process is repeated exponentially as more Listeria monocytogenes are produced until either the immune system somehow retaliates and "fights off" the virus or the immune system fails and, well...the entire organism becomes overwhelmed by the pathogen (the organism (you) dies)! Listeria monocytogenes is a very difficult pathogen to counter after it has reached a vegetative state--after it has started mass replication in the human body.~~~Escherischia coli 0157H7 is the only species of E.coli that is pathogenic. There are many E.coli species in all animals' intestines, but E.coli 0157H7 is the "big bad"! E.coli 0157H7 works the same way of harnessing your own immune system and using it against you, but targets other white blood cells also. It is lethal, but at various doses to each individual. However, the USDA has strict standards here in the U.S. to support a zero tolerance of Listeria monocytogenes and of E.coli 0157H7. If you have heard about the restaurant Jack-In-The-Box serving hamburgers that had E.coli 0157H7 in them, you know that there were foodborne illnesses and a few deaths related to those contaminated burgers! While Listeria and E.coli are the "big bad" pathogens in feces, don't disregard the Staphlococcus (Staph) bacteria and pathogens, the sometimes live diseases that are naturally discarded from the body through feces, and things like the early stages of small cancer colonies the body has packaged into feces to remove from the body. Keep in mind that all of these things are NOT all collectively in every feces from every individual. However, I guarantee you that you will be getting at least E.coli and likely Listeria.

OK! Enough of the science lesson! What about personal experiences? While I was in college, I asked my long time partner to experiment with me. I asked her to let me be her toilet. Of course my perception was more that I was receiving her special "stuff", it was a real turn on for me in an exploratorial perspective that left out any reality...It was my fantasy, complete without repercussions! But fortunately, she was against the idea. After looking at all those internet pictures of the women and their men loving this type of sex, I decided to do internet research into the scientific composition of the "product"! I was SOO glad that I was just going through an extreme exploratorial stage with a loving partner who had our best interests in mind! She is still my partner after 8 years and I still make reference to this type of sex, sort of lets her know I love her enough to have it as a fantasy--a fantasy I only had with her and no one else! But that's where it ends. When I found out about the science of the "product" back in college, that's when I knew it was time get out of exploration mode and into a more realistic perspective!

I know this was a VERY long reply, and it took a while to prepare, but I think some of these earlier posts needed a scientific expounding on why suggesting you reject this girlfriend's bullying approach to such a life/illness/death choice is critical! If you don't believe any of these pathogens and diseases really live in your girlfriend's "product" A.K.A. feces, then you are more than welcome to research it all yourself! I bid you do well always and everywhere and make the best decision that fits your perspective on LIVING WELL!

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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/18/2006 6:43:42 AM   
MsSonnetMarwood


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I provide this information from the experiences I have had as a Food Microbiologist for a number of years and the collegiate study of Biology



For the sake of brevity, I'll snip most of this post. However, I would strongly advise everyone to go back and carefully re-read it.

My knowledge comes from a slightly different angle. I'm ServSafe certified and will be certified to teach it shortly. ServSafe is an NRAEF standard certfication for food handlers and managers - many restaurants require it for management, if not staff. I don't have a lot of the heavy duty biology training. However, I do know a fair amount of foodbourne illnesses and how to prevent them.

When you talk about foodbourne illness being caused by bacteria/viruses/parasites being passed on from human feces to human, it only takes trace amounts to do so. Scenario: line cook goes to the bathroom. Line cook does not properly wash hands. Line cook touches your food without using a glove or grabs a cup of ice out of the ice machine without a scoop. Boom. That bacteria can be passed on in the ice in your Coke, your salad, your steak, whatever.

We've all had foodbourne illnesses; most often, we write it off as just a stomach bug or the like, because we're reasonably healthy and it was a mild case because we only came in contact with a minimal amount of whatever the contamination was. However, you need to translate that minimal amount into what you'd ingest if you engaged in scat play.

Major illnesses caused by viruses transmitted through human feces: Hepatitis A, Norovirus Gastroenteritis, Rotavirus Gastroenteritus.

Major illnesses caused by parasites transmitted through human feces: Giardiasis, toxoplasmosis, intestinal cryptosporidiosis, cyclosporiasis.

Major illnesses caused by bacteria transmitted through human feces: Salmonellosis, shilgellosis (bacterial dysentary), listeriosis, staphylococcal gastroenteritis, clostridium perfringens.

There's a whole host of other lesser illnesses as well. Some are nastier than others, and our ability to fight them off varies with our health, with how much we were exposed to, what we were specifically exposed to, and how fast treatment is gotten if it is treatable .


quote:

Keep in mind that all of these things are NOT all collectively in every feces from every individual.


Very true, but honestly, it's not something I'd like to gamble with.

< Message edited by MsSonnetMarwood -- 3/18/2006 6:56:34 AM >

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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/19/2006 3:17:02 AM   
mons


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I read your post before and i put what i thought down. To answer what i thought of the subject . I had been writing to a slave who lives in another state. we have known each other over a period of time through writing each other. His letters became more and more turning toward toilet serivce. He want to have me as he put it , give him a treat. I did not get it until i read more of his next letters. I was shock because no one has ever ask me to do this, and i was totally turned off! I could not see myself doing this he was a wonderful man and his letters were so lovely! But when he mention he want me to use him this way it made the feeling i had for him change for him. This is why? I had a hell of a childhood, there was a woman who knew the familyOne day I over heard her tell someone just for money she would have a abowel movement on a plate, and she would watch this man eat the feces it just for money i was sicken at the thought and i never saw her in the same way. oh she was still nice to me. But it was to strange i think she was the first domme i ever meant. I know she was becase she had her husband so submissive even as a child i something was not right but now i can read between the lines as an adult now i understand. I am sure there are many domme who may do this. i have nothing against anyone for anything they do unless it as we all say invlove a child ot animals is a damn hell no but for me i not into this at all. so i wish you luck i ust thought i would writeagain


mons/jane
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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/19/2006 6:53:53 AM   
SenseANDseamus


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Status: offline 		Ms. Sonnet Marwood and Mons, I am surprised to have been backed by dominant women on this thread relating to such a service that could be seen as an ultimate submissive act! While the female body can be such a piece of beautiful art that almost naturally attracts the male exploratorial perspective, there HAS to be boundries.

I think there is a power that exists between a psychologically, normally functioning adult man and woman that progessively yields each gender's power at the feet of the ultimate good of the relationship. That is, at some point--more than likely years of cultivation--there exists no real power struggle, for each individual can feed off the power of the success, health and welfare of their parner...It's almost like the three musketeers...but two in this case! It is somewhat easy for myself as a man to idealize (fantasize) sharing the experience of my partner's beauty hovering above my face and then a piece of that same beautiful organism passing from her into me! BUT IT IS JUST FANTASY, PERFECTLY WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE! That same fantasy, if actually practiced, would very likely translate into my sickness or possible death! Thankfully, the beatiful female body also has the cognitive capacity (perhaps some call it wisdom) to know its own limits so that it can truly be cherished in a way that can return health and happiness to the good of the relationship!

I think our posts may be on the late side for the original time frame that Strob had to work within. But on the other hand, I optimistically look forward to our posts aiding Stob's initial question, and those with similar concerns. Strob...Could you please reply soon as to how these messages have impacted your initial concerns?

Ms. Sonnet Marwood. I also have been certified through the ServSafe program. But I heard it was being incorporated into some other program. While I recognize this thread is not the place to discuss such things, perhaps you know of another thread that would be more appropriate? And Mons...Did you choose your username in reference to the area of female anatomy called the Mons Pubis? It's sloped curve can be a beautifully and welcoming view from below to the landscape above! Good choice of username if so in reference to this area!

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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/19/2006 7:47:32 AM   
GoddessDustyGold


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ORIGINAL: SenseANDseamus

Ms. Sonnet Marwood and Mons, I am surprised to have been backed by dominant women on this thread relating to such a service that could be seen as an ultimate submissive act! While the female body can be such a piece of beautiful art that almost naturally attracts the male exploratorial perspective, there HAS to be boundries.



I am surprised that you are surprised. I have openly stated on these boards more than once that I do not hold with the "human toilet" fantasy, and I have, in fact, been turned down as a prospective Mistress, and even called a fake, because I will not satisfy this particular fantasy. My favorite, is the time I was told that a "Mistress should never have to flush."
There are many sites on the internet that cater to these particular fetishes. I also think that the people on those sites are not necessarily Dominant or submissive. They are fetishists. More power to them. Personally, I consider a golden shower to be quite different from a "human toilet" scenario which includes everything. There is a difference between a shower and ingestion. As a lifestyle, on a site such as this one, I think you will find considerably less of this fixation. Most of the Ladies I know consider their personal waste to be just that..."personal". Usually handled behind closed doors.
That said, if there are some who would include this sort of scene on occasion, it is not up to Me to judge. I am a G/s fetishist Myself. But I have limits regarding even that. Many people feel that urine is perfectly safe, and I have listened to a submissive Doctor, on the telephone argue with Me that there is nothing wrong with it, and "you need to do this, Ma'am". Now this assertion did make Me smile. Because no boy, owned or not, is going to dictate to Me what I must or mustn't do. I am a reasonable adult, as well as a FemDom, and I will use My own head. Sometimes using that head includes steering excited boys away from unsafe practices. And I am referring to much more that the human toilet fetish. The usual result is that they move on down the road to find the McDomme who will provide it their way.
strob's original question was not about the health aspects of this. He was curious about what drives or excites a Domina to participate in these acts. It is good that the health issues were also mentioned. We should always include any cautionary info when it is appropriate. This topic has been oft discussed in the "Health and Safety" forum.


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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/19/2006 8:35:38 AM   
Oumae


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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold


quote:

ORIGINAL: SenseANDseamus

Ms. Sonnet Marwood and Mons, I am surprised to have been backed by dominant women on this thread relating to such a service that could be seen as an ultimate submissive act! While the female body can be such a piece of beautiful art that almost naturally attracts the male exploratorial perspective, there HAS to be boundries.



I am surprised that you are surprised.


I'm surprised you are surprised too, many of us are health conscious and not into this kink and what you posted was informative.

Each to their own once they think of the consequences and give informed consent.

Oumae

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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/19/2006 7:31:55 PM   
LadyThornrose


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Status: offline 		strob,

I tend to agree with the people who have expressed health concerns regarding the consumption of scat. Have you taken precautions, such as being vaccinated against hepatitis?

It sounds to me like you are not in a committed relationship. While I find the exchange of body fluids to be very bonding - such as urine, breastmilk, genital fluids, etc. - I think people should be wise before sharing such intimacy in casual relationships.

My personal "hard limits" are illegal or unsafe behaviors. I consider scat something that should only be considered in a long-term, committd relationship. I don't think it's something to "try out" with just anyone.

Good luck with whatever you decide,
Lady Thornrose

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RE: Request for toilet services - 3/19/2006 7:40:00 PM   
MsSonnetMarwood


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Have you taken precautions, such as being vaccinated against hepatitis?



Note: there are several strains of Hepatits.

You can be vaccinated against Hep B, which is an STD. When I had it done, it was a series of 3 shots, although that was quite a few years ago.

To the best of my knowledge, there is NO vaccination against Hep A and Hep C. Hep A is the one commonly transmitted through human feces.

quote:

I consider scat something that should only be considered in a long-term, committd relationship.


The problem is that some types of bacteria that can get you sick is in every human intestinal tract, no matter how healthy the person. Ergo, the risk is always there, no matter how long you've been with someone, if you're fluid bonded, etc.

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