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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/13/2009 10:48:57 AM   
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RUSH has gone too far, huh?

He has no right to an opinion?

After all, it's not like he called the president a terrorist

Limbaugh did call the President a terrorist on april 27.
http://mediamatters.org/limbaughwire/2009/04/27#0024



Where in that does he call BHO a terrorist? He equates the harm to America from his policies to those of a terrorist attack...far from the same thing.

He said, and I quote, "Obama is the second terrorist act" in the specific context of OBL not needing to attack again. That is calling Obama a terrorist.

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/13/2009 10:49:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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RUSH has gone too far, huh?

He has no right to an opinion?

After all, it's not like he called the president a terrorist

Limbaugh did call the President a terrorist on april 27.
http://mediamatters.org/limbaughwire/2009/04/27#0024



Where in that does he call BHO a terrorist? He equates the harm to America from his policies to those of a terrorist attack...far from the same thing.

He said, and I quote, "Obama is the second terrorist act" in the specific context of OBL not needing to attack again. That is calling Obama a terrorist.


no its not, try reading the rest of the thread

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/13/2009 10:55:21 AM   
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What rest of the thread? I listened to Rush say those words. I even backed up the podcast by 5 minutes and listened to the 5 minutes before and the 5 minutes after he said it. Rush said what I quote above in a context directly stating that OBL wouldn't attack again because people who hate  America had nefariously installed President Obama in the White House. No matter what semantic games you want to play you can't say someone is the second terrorist attack, refering in no uncertain terms to 9/11 as the first attack, and not directly call the person being talked about a terrorist. In simplest terms if a suicide bomber, who is also a terrorist attack, is a terrorist then Rush called Obama a terrorist.

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/13/2009 11:13:07 AM   
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~ FR ~

I just checked the MediaMatters.org link. In the body of the coverage, Simon Maloy writes [my bold]:

Rush then explained why they were talking about this -- because he and his friends were kicking around names of potential Obama puppetmasters over the weekend. Rush's favorite theory was from someone who said that there will be no second terror attack on America because "they don't need a second act; Obama is the second terrorist act."

Further along, the page provides the supporting quote from the broadcast [my bold]:

One person -- just to show you how much fun we have when we get together. Christine, you'll probably love this. One guy in the group said, "Everybody's waiting on a second terror attack. There's not going to be a second terror attack. There isn't going to be one. The terrorists -- they're entertainers. They know performance requirements. They know theatrics. They know if they do a second terror attack, they're going to have to make it much bigger than 9-11. Your second act has to be bigger than the first act."

He said, "Besides, they don't need a second act; Obama is the second terrorist act."

So, unh, English being English and all that inconvenient stuff, it appears Rush was only relating something that someone else said.

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/13/2009 1:07:31 PM   
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... I listened to Rush say those words. I even backed up the podcast by 5 minutes and listened to the 5 minutes before and the 5 minutes after he said it.


I'm sorry, but I find that hard to believe. 

Kirata has already posted a decent synopsis of what Rush really said, but if you'd like to read for yourself the entire transcript, here's a link.

The complete quote in question is:

I had a bunch of houseguests in for the week, 15 people here from Wednesday night through Saturday night (they all left on Sunday) and at dinner every night, all these topics were discussed.  One of the things that was discussed is it turned out everybody had a theory explaining Obama, much like yours, Christine. They just don't think this guy could have risen himself from his own background, had to have a sponsor, had to have somebody orchestrating, directing it, so forth and so on. So everybody started talking about names, who might it be, and of course Soros is a popular one because his hatred of America is well known. His hatred of Republicans is well known. His pocketbook size is also well known.

One of the guests suggesting that it was even somebody like the king of Saudi Arabia after Obama's bow, because Obama is eager to paralyze our ability to defend ourselves, which is what our enemies want.  One person, just to show you how much fun we have when we get together -- Christine, you'll probably love this -- one guy in the group said, "Everybody's waiting on a second terror attack.  There's not going to be a second terror attack.  There isn't going to be one!  The terrorists, they're entertainers.  They know performance requirements. They know theatrics. They know if they do a second terror attack. They're going to have to make it much bigger than 9/11.  Your second act has to be bigger than the first act."  He said, "Besides, they don't need a second act.  Obama is the second terrorist act!"


Immediately following that, Rush made a comment that I find most important.  He said...

"I mean, I had opinions in my house going all over the ballpark.  It was fascinating. And these are all, in their own right, involved, intelligent people. 

But somebody actually thought Obama is terrorist attack number two. Obama is the follow-up to 9/11."

(Emphasis in bold is my own.)

Now I ask you, is that the kind of comment a person would make if they whole-heartedly agreed with what had been said?  If they thought what had been said was serious and credible?

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/13/2009 1:07:32 PM   
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So Rush claimed. It is a matter of public record that Rush doesn't socialize with anyone so it is of course reasonable to assume that the whole story is a fiction made up to let him say what he said.

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/13/2009 1:22:31 PM   
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So Rush claimed. It is a matter of public record that Rush doesn't socialize with anyone so it is of course reasonable to assume that the whole story is a fiction made up to let him say what he said.


He doesnt socialize with anyone?  ROFL. His 25 dinner/golf guests last weekend, some of whom he's been friends with for decades might dispute that.  Youre reasonably intelligent and articulate. Dont post when it makes you sound like others who aren't.

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/13/2009 1:26:25 PM   
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He's an entertainer folks.. anyone taking thier news from him without a grain of salt needs a head check... in turn anyone taking thier news from sites like the Huffington Post or Move On needs one as well. Bush was a horrible leader... he had this country in all kinds of trouble with the economy and the border. Obama is no better. When Bush was spending all his money people cried out about spending and inflation. Now we are buying our own debt and spending at an even faster rate. We are being GAMED by not the far left or far right.. but tag teamed by  them both. They keep us too busy with the bickering and talking heads to see what is going on around us. My only hope is enough people on both sides wake up and meet in the middle so we can clean out Washington.

Oh if this made some of you mad.. sorry you are mad.. not sorry I believe as I do... just sorry you got mad my thoughts are not in line with yours.

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/13/2009 4:19:01 PM   
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Oh, he's more than an entertainer. He's the de facto head of the republican party. Look at how many republicans flip flop on their statements after they get spanked on air by fatso!

I think it's just fine that Rush is casting himself in this role. He and his other extremist, hard-right wingers can continue to drag the GOP into political hell. Think of Rush as Moby Dick, and the rest of the GOP leadership as the body of Captain Ahab, strapped to the side of him... Every time ol' Moby shifts, the body flops around, looking like it's alive and gesturing to the rest of the party in the longboat to follow... and thus, they are led on to their doom.

Keep it up Rush, my boy! Keep up with the anti-gay hate speech, the veiled racist comments, the parroting of failed policies that didn't even work when Reagan tried them. Keep supporting torture, keep saying that we need to trash the principals that make us Americans in order to fight some little pipsqueak movement of religious nutcases.

Keep America informed of EXACTLY why they voted against the GOP five months ago.

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/14/2009 7:13:56 AM   
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This is the version of the roast that was leaked...

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2009/05/i-guess-you-had-to-be-there.html




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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/16/2009 5:22:14 AM   
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Two wrongs make a right... seems like this is the new liberal philosophy.


An amusing thing to say as for eight years, every time I criticised Bush, the response from a Republican was invariably "Clinton did it first."

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That's it - that's the big bad Rush Limbaugh. That's what the left runs from, screaming at he top of their lungs...


That's what they want you to think. In fact, they're putting on a show precisely because they want him to get a lot of media attention. The more attention he gets, the more it forces the Republic party to follow in his path, and that's right where they want them to be.

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/16/2009 5:27:33 AM   
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Oh, he's more than an entertainer. He's the de facto head of the republican party.
According to the democrats maybe. I've never heard a republican claim this.

Look at how many republicans flip flop on their statements after they get spanked on air by fatso!
Fatso? I keep looking at your pic and wondering why you would use that particular word to insult someone with. Does it make you feel better to call someone else fatso? How do you feel when people call you that?
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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/16/2009 7:52:02 AM   
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I've never heard a republican claim this.
 
 
It`s the default line when Rush fucks up.They get to have it both ways.
 
He`s a serious thinker when he proselytizes and an entertainer we souldn`t take seriously, when he says something despicable.


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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/16/2009 8:53:06 AM   
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Getting everyone to focus on Rush Limbaugh instead of the issues before us as a nation is all a part of a well publicized Democrat disinformation campaign, a distraction the Democrats absolutely have to have right now. Examples? Obama's radical, anti-free speech FCC "Czar" who wants not only to limit free speech on the radio, but on the Internet as well. Tax cheats in his cabinet, William Holder calling Americans cowards, and on and on.




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That's what they want you to think. In fact, they're putting on a show precisely because they want him to get a lot of media attention. The more attention he gets, the more it forces the Republic party to follow in his path, and that's right where they want them to be.


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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/16/2009 9:08:26 AM   
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it`s a conspewissy.......

more like flicking poop off one`s shoe.

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RE: Now Rush has gone to far. - 5/20/2009 11:12:42 PM   
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"They keep us too busy with the bickering and talking heads to see what is going on around us."...mesrem is right....Why would you defend either party?

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