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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:01:00 PM

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Time magazine and all the other liberal publications just like it never ceased their partisan attacks against the Bush administration.

Lo and behold, they are ongoing even today...

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Sanity ,a better question would be why wasn't there a general outcry of protest during the Bush Administration?Heaven knows there was enough to be alarmed at.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:03:53 PM

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And it is my contention the majority of those attacks were not inspired by partisan politics,as much as the natural consequence of such a poorly run Administration.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:06:35 PM

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Where did I say they didn't have a right to their opinion? That one's all strawman. My point was, so what if Cheney is giving interviews, why does Time attack him for doing so when it didn't give Carter or Gore similar bad press for doing exactly the same.

And yeah, Time is editorializing in their news articles again, still, as always.

Try reading the story again, with a more critical eye...

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You know, it's just that damn liberal media bias everywhere you look.

Now let me see if I have this straight, Carter and Gore shouldn't have run their mouths during the Bush administration, even though they were private citizens expressing their opinions, which was your argument defending Limbaugh just yesterday.

And I don't think TIME was attacking him. Instead, pointing out some obvious inconsistencies in his actions and questioning the motives.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:08:21 PM

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I believe it was an editorial.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:11:41 PM

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Time magazine and all the other liberal publications just like it never ceased their partisan attacks against the Bush administration.

Lo and behold, they are ongoing even today...

Let me ask you something, and this is a serious question, not sarcasm.

What publications do you believe are not liberally biased?

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:13:54 PM

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Cheney, although I may not like the man... okay, just the opposite of 'like' actually... but whatever. I have to admit, he's not stupid. He knows someone is going to take the fall for this, and he knows it's not going to be a soft landing. I'm thinking "preparing for witness level plea agreements". You cut me a light slap on the wrist, I'll rat out anyone and everyone. Just a theory, of course, but I wouldn't put it past him. He is cold, cruel, calculating and cunning. Useful traits in some circumstances... like this.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:15:54 PM

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You would think so, wouldn't ya?

Have a look. It's not...

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I believe it was an editorial.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:17:53 PM

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BK you never mentioned arrogance...this is what I beleive will keep him talking....supreme arrogance.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:26:50 PM

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I don't think there are many that are truly nonpartisan anymore, true journalism is all but dead and most publications seem to be agenda driven. The Wall Street Journal has my respect, though I am aware that it leans a little right. They seem to try to be fair though, and I value that. I'd absolutely hate to be a lefty and be pandered to all the time, I really feel like it would be insulting. Which, if you take some good communication classes it will really open your eyes to all the far left crap we're being fed as "news".

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Time magazine and all the other liberal publications just like it never ceased their partisan attacks against the Bush administration.

Lo and behold, they are ongoing even today...

Let me ask you something, and this is a serious question, not sarcasm.

What publications do you believe are not liberally biased?

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:31:23 PM

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I don't think there are many that are truly nonpartisan anymore, true journalism is all but dead and most publications seem to be agenda driven. The Wall Street Journal has my respect, though I am aware that it leans a little right. They seem to try to be fair though, and I value that. I'd absolutely hate to be a lefty and be pandered to all the time, I really feel like it would be insulting. Which, if you take some good communication classes it will really open your eyes to all the far left crap we're being fed as "news".

That might have been true prior to Murdoch taking over the Journal, but today it's turning into the print version of Fox News.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:33:19 PM

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So it works like this Sanity,left leaning publications simply pander to the left...while their counterparts from the right, at least in the case of the WSJ,attempt to be fair.
And you see no bias in your opinion...your just giving us your nonpartisan impressions of the media tilt?

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:36:29 PM

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What evidence do you have supporting that claim? I get it every weekday and it looks to me like it's still the same Journal that it's always been.

And it's making money, too.

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That might have been true prior to Murdoch taking over the Journal, but today it's turning into the print version of Fox News.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:41:08 PM

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Some people can see the bias and some can't. I've had some very competent training and for the most part I can clearly see my own biases as well as your own biases, as well as those of far left organizations such as MSNBC and CNN / Time Magazine...

And I do realize that I have a lot to learn, and that I probably always will.

How's that answer your question, mike?

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:46:05 PM

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Well,what with the competent training and all that....we'll just have to take your word for it.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:50:53 PM

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What evidence do you have supporting that claim? I get it every weekday and it looks to me like it's still the same Journal that it's always been.

And it's making money, too.

No evidence, just an opinion.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:52:40 PM

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Fair enough, I can respect that answer.

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No evidence, just an opinion.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:57:30 PM

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OBAMA administration is on a witch hunt, they trying to make irreversible in-roads....

I think its time to impeach all the liberals in one fell swoop.........

The people who pay taxes are getting more and more sick of it......which is the backlash of liberal morons who don't know what they are doing......

Why be responsible when the have's have to pay for the have not's?

Maybe no one should work........Of course then society probably break down into anarchy......;/

Slippery slope does exist and its name is Democrats........People are broke so they creating Generational Debt. They are doing exactly the opposite of what is needed......

All we need is male kids being adopted by these supposed "normal" couples and seeing them having sex and showing affection in their household, then They don't understand when you want to show affection towards a guy, you don't do it sexually. They get all screwed up and screw up society worse, not better......

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 9:59:54 PM

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Time magazine and all the other liberal publications just like it never ceased their partisan attacks against the Bush administration.

Lo and behold, they are ongoing even today...

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Sanity ,a better question would be why wasn't there a general outcry of protest during the Bush Administration?Heaven knows there was enough to be alarmed at.

Oh jeezzz poor poor bush...

The bush admin. never ceased to have things to criticize them about!

Remember the six years of mis-handling the illegal war they lied us into?

Did Carter or Gore intentionally leak the ID of a CIA under cover agent?

Did either of them do a fly-over of an American a city they lost?

Did either of them kill a national economy?

Bush got a pass from the MSM he shouldn`t have gotten for 9/11 and got another for lying us into Iraq.

He had more than enough breaks.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 10:10:34 PM

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Dick "I shoot in the face!" Cheney, concerned over safety, rofl? You're having a laugh, mate .

How did you know I laugh at your ridiculous bias?

Enough with these claims of bias around here when one claims to know that we are any safer or not since Obama took office. I don't believe the Bush govt. prevented any real attacks at all. We do know there was one very big attack he DIDN'T stop with 8 months in office and to suggest beyond doubt that they have since...is to bring your own bias in claiming any such conclusion.

Otherwise, Cheney is a mouthpiece, a closet fascist and a neo-con still out there successfully it seems...fooling most of the people most of the time.

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RE: Dick Cheney: Why So Chatty All of a Sudden? - 5/13/2009 10:41:58 PM

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Some people can see the bias and some can't. I've had some very competent training and for the most part I can clearly see my own biases as well as your own biases, as well as those of far left organizations such as MSNBC and CNN / Time Magazine...

And I do realize that I have a lot to learn, and that I probably always will.

How's that answer your question, mike?

The WSJ is about as objective as 'Gordon Gekko'..."greed is good". They are in fact editorially at the least the bible of the Ayn Rand world, where there are no truths...not discovered in an exchange of wealth in the pursuit of a profit.

Refusing to admit the obvious in that employers have all of the power when it comes to preventing any organizing workers to legally and collectively bargain for example...they obviously do not support the union voter card bill and reveal their true colors and have been doing so for decades.

The real reason of course typically, is greed as it would reduce their precious return on investment to pay a living wage with even a modicum of benefits.

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