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philosophy -> who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 12:32:40 PM)
Ok, so i can place some of the posters here, please tell us what responsibilities you think ought to be Federal, which State, which local and which are individual. If you're Canadian please replace state with province.....and if you're British, central, county, local or individual. Although if you're British and Welsh or Scottish, what duties lie with the state assembly. The sort of responsibilities i'm thinking of are things like, health, education, military, regulatory oversight, taxes.....you get the idea.

Vendaval -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 12:48:55 PM)
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philosophy -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 12:58:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval [sm=popcorn.gif] [:D]

Crush -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 2:25:47 PM)
[sm=popcorn.gif] Definitely....

kittinSol -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 2:32:33 PM)
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LaTigresse -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 2:42:14 PM)
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marie2 -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 2:44:50 PM)
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OrionTheWolf -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 2:59:48 PM)
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html ;)

NorthernGent -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 3:02:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: philosophy Ok, so i can place some of the posters here, please tell us what responsibilities you think ought to be Federal, which State, which local and which are individual. If you're Canadian please replace state with province.....and if you're British, central, county, local or individual. Although if you're British and Welsh or Scottish, what duties lie with the state assembly. The sort of responsibilities i'm thinking of are things like, health, education, military, regulatory oversight, taxes.....you get the idea. Local power is absolutely vital, otherwise people are rendered dillusioned with the democratic process and effectively disenfranchised. I would disband the military tomorrow. Life's too short to think someone's coming for you, especially when it's been a long time since a torpedo hit me in the face.

BitaTruble -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 3:31:21 PM)
`fr` Federal should be responsible for national defense, foreign affairs/diplomacy, national parks and monuments (like the Statue of Liberty. I happen to like that ol' gal!), federal prosecutions for federal crimes like treason etc., the collection of foreign tariffs/federal income taxes and defending the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. States should be responsible for education, infrastructure, state police/highway patrol, crime prevention/prosecution and the collection of state income taxes. Local government should be responsible for the collection of applicable local taxes for things like gas/electric/water mains, local roads, local police departments/jails, the local library and parks/recreational facilities for their local. Parents/adults should be responsible for their children and themselves including providing for their food, shelter, clothing and health care, although may choose to involve a doctor in that last one if desired. Oversight .. that's the responsibility of everyone. If we don't watch the wiley bastards, they'll try to get away with murder. Master is responsible for what goes on in this household and what goes on in this house ain't nobody's damn business unless he or we decide to share the information. [8D] I'm sure there are a whole bunch of other things that could be assigned to a particular level of government but that's my list for now subject to change if I've had a menopausal moment or three. [8D]

kittinSol -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 3:39:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent I would disband the military tomorrow. Life's too short to think someone's coming for you, especially when it's been a long time since a torpedo hit me in the face. [sm=afraid.gif]

FirmhandKY -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 6:36:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble `fr` Federal should be responsible for national defense, foreign affairs/diplomacy, national parks and monuments (like the Statue of Liberty. I happen to like that ol' gal!), federal prosecutions for federal crimes like treason etc., the collection of foreign tariffs/federal income taxes and defending the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. States should be responsible for education, infrastructure, state police/highway patrol, crime prevention/prosecution and the collection of state income taxes. Local government should be responsible for the collection of applicable local taxes for things like gas/electric/water mains, local roads, local police departments/jails, the local library and parks/recreational facilities for their local. Parents/adults should be responsible for their children and themselves including providing for their food, shelter, clothing and health care, although may choose to involve a doctor in that last one if desired. Oversight .. that's the responsibility of everyone. If we don't watch the wiley bastards, they'll try to get away with murder. Master is responsible for what goes on in this household and what goes on in this house ain't nobody's damn business unless he or we decide to share the information. [8D] I'm sure there are a whole bunch of other things that could be assigned to a particular level of government but that's my list for now subject to change if I've had a menopausal moment or three. [8D] Great post, Bita. The only things I would add is that I believe that the Federal income tax shouldn't exist (although it does) and, I'm not menopausal. [:D] Firm

slvemike4u -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 10:05:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: philosophy Ok, so i can place some of the posters here, please tell us what responsibilities you think ought to be Federal, which State, which local and which are individual. If you're Canadian please replace state with province.....and if you're British, central, county, local or individual. Although if you're British and Welsh or Scottish, what duties lie with the state assembly. The sort of responsibilities i'm thinking of are things like, health, education, military, regulatory oversight, taxes.....you get the idea. Local power is absolutely vital, otherwise people are rendered dillusioned with the democratic process and effectively disenfranchised. I would disband the military tomorrow. Life's too short to think someone's coming for you, especially when it's been a long time since a torpedo hit me in the face. Off-topic,but it occurs to me the odds on getting hit in the face with that proverbial torpedo will greatly expand the day after you disband that military. The world is a dangerous place,especially for those who present themselves as helpless.

Kirata -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 11:12:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u The world is a dangerous place,especially for those who present themselves as helpless. Maybe not so off-topic. When it comes to who's responsible for what, that observation is just as true for individuals as it is for nations. K.

NorthernGent -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 11:28:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Off-topic,but it occurs to me the odds on getting hit in the face with that proverbial torpedo will greatly expand the day after you disband that military. The world is a dangerous place,especially for those who present themselves as helpless. The world is as dangerous as you wish to perceive it. I have no problems - I walk down the street and go about my business with no aggravation. I can't live my life on the basis that someone somewhere may come for me, particularly as governments have form for inventing and manipulating all sorts of stuff in order to meet their agenda. Channel the money into health and education.

Kirata -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 11:47:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent The world is as dangerous as you wish to perceive it. I have no problems... Generalizations, on the other hand, are always dangerous. K.

marie2 -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/15/2009 11:58:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent I have no problems - I walk down the street and go about my business with no aggravation. That could be adjusted. Just sayin....

NorthernGent -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/16/2009 12:21:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marie2 quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent I have no problems - I walk down the street and go about my business with no aggravation. That could be adjusted. Just sayin.... Do you have plans in place?

NorthernGent -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/16/2009 12:22:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent The world is as dangerous as you wish to perceive it. I have no problems... Generalizations, on the other hand, are always dangerous. K. Some details would be useful: a) What exactly do you mean? b) Where's the connection with my post?

HatesParisHilton -> RE: who is responsible for what (5/16/2009 2:56:40 AM)
"Local power is absolutely vital," actually, in states like California, Arizonia, and Washington, Local power is *absolutely viral.* Meaning Viral Advertising (or "V.A."); e.g., what you can convince people of using media and even message boards like these. And to deny what adverts mean to definitions of "what politics now mean" is to ignore the tax dollars ALL of all of YOU spent on the public television programmes that can make or break campaigns (like MacNiel Leher, etc.). Most bureacrats don't believe in God no matter WHAT they say, but they DO pray at night, pray you dont understand how much they f--k you over with viral advertising, while pretentending to stand against such practices. Escpecially since your taxes pay them to pretend in such ways, by the hour. That's where the responsibility lies. With the ad agencies that suck this syphilic political cock. And I hope LOTS of politicians read that lone, and if not, their "friends" FD it to them.

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