DomKen
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DK: "I'm a veteran and there is no way US troops would follow the sorts of orders these folks claim are about to be issued en masse"
Congratulations. I have the deepest respect for the jobs our veterans have done and our troops are doing. That doesn't mean that I agree with the jobs they are always told to do. But just because you are a vet does not give you special insight, privilege, or ability to speak for everyone. Your blanket assertions prove and mean nothing.
Look, let's skip all the other stuff, I'm tired of all the circular arguments. Help me, please, to understand just one thing ... what is your motive? You are obviously intelligent, yet you argue to defend the government's positions and actions as if you have a personal stake in the outcome. You seem like you never understood the humor in the line, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you".
If you are reluctant to tell me that, then how about a challenge? Name one thing, just ONE thing, that the federal government has done in the last 30 years that you can point to with pride and say, "job well done, we got our moneys worth, it solved the problem, it was efficiently accomplished, end of story". Just one. There is one exemption, military actions ... we can dispute all day long the validity or lack thereof of any particular campaign, but, again, I always support our boys and girls risking their lives to do what they are told to do, even if I disagree with what they are told to do.
See you are trying to force me into a role you have assigned anyone who disagrees with you. My personal stake in the outcome is that well informed people make good choices and people who have been fed lies and don't know they are lies make very bad choices.
The scum trying to foment revolution, and don't kid anyone what else is the motive for this crap but these vermin trying to create a new power pyramid with themselves at the apex, are telling lies that people believe for some reason when even a tiny amount of skeptical research will prove wrong.
And just to make you happy I can easily point to an immense number of federal actions over the last 30 years even though that time mostly encompasses Ronnie Raygun and his ideological followers who have done unbelievable damage to the nation.
Enforcement of the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts. Remember how bad things had gotten by the early 70's? Remember when rivers caught on fire?
ADA. People with limited mobility can now go just about anywhere.
Food Stamps and subsidized school lunches. Children should not go hungry no matter who their parents are or what bad decisions those parents make.
The CDC. Go look up the pandemic flu cycle and wonder why we haven't had 2 major lethal pandemics in the last 30 years.
NIH. Remember all the different cancers that were almost always lethal in the 70's? Now go look into how much the survival rate has improved. Virtually all of the research that has resulted in us having all but conquered many cancers was paid for by the NIH using federal funds.
The Interstate system. almost entirely maintained by federal funds and vital to our economy.
etc. etc.
< Message edited by DomKen -- 5/20/2009 11:33:54 AM >
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