slvemike4u
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Not that I'm willing to concede this point,but when did whether or not it worked become the end all and be all of the conversation. There is still the question of whether or not we should be doing it... In my mind we shouldn't be doing it for moral reasons....ours not theirs Well I'll call hijack on this. The question of whether or not we should ever have been doing it in the first place is not the topic of this thread. The topic of this thread is the crapola we've been fed that it didn't produce any actionable intelligence, which, if you stop and consider the matter, is a fairly inane argument coming from people who supposedly objected to it on moral grounds, and for whom one would think its effectiveness (or lack of same) would be irrelevant. K. And I call Bullshit on this.If those who advocate torture are intent on moving the argument to whether or not it is effective it is perfectly reasonable for those that oppose it to bring the argument back to where it belongs....namely the right or wrong of it. Expediency is not a justification.
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