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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/19/2009 6:48:31 PM

LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN

Have you changed anything in your life of late to live a more frugal or simple life? wheather due to economic changes..job changes etc?

If you live a frugal life what are some of the creative ways you have employed /designed to bring that into your life?

I have not "suffered" as some are here in Ab,CA due to the oilfield/job recession but have simplified a lot:

* I went from a 3000 sq ft place to a 500 sq ft.( with utilities included and no yard matinence etc..and banked the $$$ from my acerage sale)

*I am walking everywhere rather than drive my car( less pollution and less $$$ out)

* I make birthday gifts

*I have friends over rather than eat out..we have potlucks

* I no longer subscribe to 15 mags..I exhchange or go read at coffee shops

* I have less cappachinios and have reg coffee( ya the "Latte Factor" a study was done)

*I am having fun re-working old clothes into new outifts
by using 2-3 tops to make a new one

*I am looking at multiple streams of income...eg) due to no car I now rent my parking space for $200 month

* I find lots of free stuff to do..lectures..art trips..walk abouts..meet-ups..BDSM events(yes)...

* the food I buy is organic which costs more but I have saved other places and also 2 organic carrots fill me up where as 7 dead ones do not...

* I have had no cable TV for 3 years which has saved about..
$1800..and viewing massive negativity

* I no longer buy impulse knick-knacks just to have a garage sale every year..

*I have exchanged my art for things like hair styling...lawyer fees(yep)..dental work...

GQ

I've never lived frugally...I've always lived the way I wanted to, which included being prudent.

When I wanted something....I went and got it....I was able to get it because I've always been prudent.

< Message edited by LookieNoNookie -- 6/19/2009 6:56:06 PM >

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/19/2009 7:25:49 PM

GYPZYQUEEN

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

quote:

ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN

I've never lived frugally...I've always lived the way I wanted to, which included being prudent.

When I wanted something....I went and got it....I was able to get it because I've always been prudent.

there fore you DO/did INDEED live FRUGALLY..

PRUDENT is careful sensible..sound judgement ...wise forethought
Frugal..is avoiding waste..and unnessisary expenditures,,

FRUGAL is a SYNONYM for PRUDENT

Being frugal does not mean you do not
"live the way you want to"
it means care and attention to not wasting and thus being prudent in your decisions

GQ

< Message edited by GYPZYQUEEN -- 6/19/2009 7:27:19 PM >

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 10:15:40 AM

JohnSteed1967

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I can not tell you how urgent and grave the situation is.

I am stacking silver.   When you hear about a country wanting their gold back- it is code for "we are going to bust the COMEX"

Heck for as little as $1 you can stack silver. There is no big secret on it.    These are old coins made of the real thing.   Not fake metal like today.

At some point- alot of people on the planet our going to die. Possibly 2012.

Yeah We have a lot in Common there. I am stacking silver myself. and figure its the one way to save my hide. Besides when I sell it. There is NO Government agency that has to know, no taxes that have to be paid and no records have to be kept.

I am shocked that more people don't do it. I have actually converted a lot of my family members into my way of thinking. I don't know that they are buy silver but atleast they see I'm not stupid.

Next Year I am gonna start stacking MRE's and if I can still get a gun I'll be getting one of those too. 2012 is coming and I am not gonna be caught with my pants down

< Message edited by JohnSteed1967 -- 6/20/2009 10:19:29 AM >

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 10:22:54 AM

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I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. Walden (1854)

Yep, and we live in little wooden boxes, next to other non descript boxes, and drive little metal boxes to mindless jobs that give us little green pieces of paper and we call that living!

< Message edited by JohnSteed1967 -- 6/20/2009 10:23:12 AM >

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 10:32:03 AM

pyroaquatic

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I do not know if I live frugally but I will explain that I am interested in converting energy into efficient work.

For example when my Father's projector television died I gutted it out and took out all of the lenses, including a 33" by 44" inch Fresnel lens. If anyone knows anything about these beautiful pieces of plastic they can focus the suns energy into a small beam strong enough to boil a 12 ounce bottle of cold water in ninety seconds, or cook eggs in sixty seconds. Melt glass, softer metals, instantly torch wood and paper, yes this sucker can do it.

It is as powerful as a welding torch on a good day.

I also plan on taking the neodymium magnets from out of hard drives, placing them on a flywheel connected to an exercise bike and floating on two ring neodymium magnets, and generating electricity that way. Plus it is exercise! The sucker spins for a while too.

I am trying to get my little green business off the ground and into fruition.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 10:57:10 AM

sugargirlxxx

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN

* I no longer buy impulse knick-knacks just to have a garage sale every year..

*I have exchanged my art for things like hair styling...lawyer fees(yep)..dental work...

GQ

OMG! Me too years ago. I use to looove going to garage sales and pick up knick-knackies! I still miss that.

Also I dye my hair less than what I usually do.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 11:03:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Hiya Queen- hunny bunch. (Im gay, I can call you that ;-))

I study what is going on quite a but. I mean-people even avoid me over it.

first off let me say- (this post is directed to Queen-) My best guess is that CA will fare better then America. That in the end- Some Americans in fact will move to Canada. We are as long as 3 years away from 1940s style life. I follow Bob Chapman, he is ex cia- and the best at telling a curious mind what REALLY is going on. The powers that be are running scared as they have entered us into a collapse that they now are losing control of. 2005 was the cut off date. Needless to say they are doing everything wrong.

This is what my friend is saying and she's already preparing to go to Canada. She has 1 more year and she'll have her degree and will be moving. Inorder to move to Canada you have to have a degree. She tells me to act now or I'll be hurting. I told her Arizona like we planned but she changed her mind and wants Canada. She's usually 99.9% right so I might take that in consideration.

< Message edited by sugargirlxxx -- 6/20/2009 11:08:05 AM >

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 11:09:12 AM

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I got a crate of mangos yesterday for 3 bucks..and I am making mango chutney today..
yummy.......
come over later for a pulled pork and mango chutney bun...

MY building is now leaving boxes of bottles by the dump bin for those who pick..
and also we are hanging clothes on hangers along the edge or trees..
I found a nice beaded curtain down there today..
It is becoming like a quick exchange place..for those of us who do not have cars..to got VV etc

I am thinking of apporoaching the newspaper with a column idea..SHOESTRINGS

oh and check out frugaldom on line.

GQ

< Message edited by GYPZYQUEEN -- 6/20/2009 11:10:51 AM >

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 11:22:14 AM

Loki45

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ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN
*I am looking at multiple streams of income...eg) due to no car I now rent my parking space for $200 month

Good thing the person you're renting it to isn't being cautious financially, because they're being taken. In my apartment complext here, fully covered garages with remote openers are only $65 a month.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 12:38:09 PM

pahunkboy

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I can not tell you how urgent and grave the situation is.

I am stacking silver.   When you hear about a country wanting their gold back- it is code for "we are going to bust the COMEX"

Heck for as little as $1 you can stack silver. There is no big secret on it.    These are old coins made of the real thing.   Not fake metal like today.

At some point- alot of people on the planet our going to die. Possibly 2012.

Yeah We have a lot in Common there. I am stacking silver myself. and figure its the one way to save my hide. Besides when I sell it. There is NO Government agency that has to know, no taxes that have to be paid and no records have to be kept.

I am shocked that more people don't do it. I have actually converted a lot of my family members into my way of thinking. I don't know that they are buy silver but atleast they see I'm not stupid.

Next Year I am gonna start stacking MRE's and if I can still get a gun I'll be getting one of those too. 2012 is coming and I am not gonna be caught with my pants down

We see eye to eye on that. America- one can easily get silver and gold. Not the case in some countries. I will send you the link to one of my silver boards.

BTW- 90% should be cheaper right now. yikes.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 12:42:38 PM

pahunkboy

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sugargirlxxx

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Hiya Queen- hunny bunch. (Im gay, I can call you that ;-))

I study what is going on quite a but. I mean-people even avoid me over it.

first off let me say- (this post is directed to Queen-) My best guess is that CA will fare better then America. That in the end- Some Americans in fact will move to Canada. We are as long as 3 years away from 1940s style life. I follow Bob Chapman, he is ex cia- and the best at telling a curious mind what REALLY is going on. The powers that be are running scared as they have entered us into a collapse that they now are losing control of. 2005 was the cut off date. Needless to say they are doing everything wrong.

This is what my friend is saying and she's already preparing to go to Canada. She has 1 more year and she'll have her degree and will be moving. Inorder to move to Canada you have to have a degree. She tells me to act now or I'll be hurting. I told her Arizona like we planned but she changed her mind and wants Canada. She's usually 99.9% right so I might take that in consideration.

Canada has some red tape to move there. In 2004 when bush "won" alot of gays were -- going to leave. So I joined a yahoo group.

I dont think they would want me. But the Lacota Nation will take me. So that will be fine. (5 states around SD/ND)

I have a 2 year and 4 year degree. But as long as PA has programs- --- ...it is the place place for a person of my standing.

Either way- this town will be ---could be gangs-3-4 years. I do the crime patrols- the signs are all there.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 12:44:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic

I do not know if I live frugally but I will explain that I am interested in converting energy into efficient work.

For example when my Father's projector television died I gutted it out and took out all of the lenses, including a 33" by 44" inch Fresnel lens. If anyone knows anything about these beautiful pieces of plastic they can focus the suns energy into a small beam strong enough to boil a 12 ounce bottle of cold water in ninety seconds, or cook eggs in sixty seconds. Melt glass, softer metals, instantly torch wood and paper, yes this sucker can do it.

It is as powerful as a welding torch on a good day.

I also plan on taking the neodymium magnets from out of hard drives, placing them on a flywheel connected to an exercise bike and floating on two ring neodymium magnets, and generating electricity that way. Plus it is exercise! The sucker spins for a while too.

I am trying to get my little green business off the ground and into fruition.

Think outside the box. A creative mind is stealth to the changing paradyme.

Re-learn things we knew. The TV can not replace the elders! ...and you know what- I spend quite a bit of time learning from my elders.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 2:00:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

Good thing the person you're renting it to isn't being cautious financially, because they're being taken. In my apartment complext here, fully covered garages with remote openers are only $65 a month.

IS THAT A FACT??
Do you live in Canada? in central Edmonton? a BOOM town
Do you know it is a double spot with remote..heat..and security( 2 doors) and in an area where it is safer to be inside than out for your vehicle..
They are being cautious by saving a $40,000 car...and the wife's $27,000 one for $200 mo..which is actually LOWER than average here...because I do not take ppl.

DO NOT ASSUME YOUR OPINIONS are fact..

GQ
He had several offers and mine was the lowest.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 7:05:48 PM

pahunkboy

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hmm.. in Manhattan- parking for a DAY costs $100 ..... if you can find it.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 9:14:34 PM

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~FR~

Slowly but surely, We are switching to farmstead living. One trip a week allowed to town. We stock up on venison He hunts in the fall, so We don't need as much meat from the market. Once my garden comes through, We sell off the extra or exchange for what i didn't plant. Once We own the farm straight up, raise Our own feeder cattle, feeder pigs, chickens, ducks. Selling the chicken eggs, duck eggs, exchanging one cow for butchering services on the other cows/pigs.

i shop at thrift stores, buy only clearance from main markets, breastfeed, clip coupons, use the library, buy in bulk and split the difference with Our neighbors, eat in and eat the leftovers, give baked goods as gifts, let the children make presents for family members, use herbal treatments instead of medication (when appropriate). Make my own pharmas.

We'd started on the simple living path awhile ago, but the change in the financial climate hastened Our entrance.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 11:25:49 PM

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Do the extreme savers in this thread have decent income?

If yes, what are you using all the money for?

My "saving" amounts to cooking a quarter of my meals and doing my own maintenance on my motorcycle and totally superfluous sportscar.

Yet I consider myself to have a low paying job.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/20/2009 11:58:13 PM

pyroaquatic

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic

I do not know if I live frugally but I will explain that I am interested in converting energy into efficient work.

For example when my Father's projector television died I gutted it out and took out all of the lenses, including a 33" by 44" inch Fresnel lens. If anyone knows anything about these beautiful pieces of plastic they can focus the suns energy into a small beam strong enough to boil a 12 ounce bottle of cold water in ninety seconds, or cook eggs in sixty seconds. Melt glass, softer metals, instantly torch wood and paper, yes this sucker can do it.

It is as powerful as a welding torch on a good day.

I also plan on taking the neodymium magnets from out of hard drives, placing them on a flywheel connected to an exercise bike and floating on two ring neodymium magnets, and generating electricity that way. Plus it is exercise! The sucker spins for a while too.

I am trying to get my little green business off the ground and into fruition.

Think outside the box. A creative mind is stealth to the changing paradyme.

Re-learn things we knew. The TV can not replace the elders! ...and you know what- I spend quite a bit of time learning from my elders.

i am confused as to where this box is.

i never watch television anyways. it is full of evil

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/21/2009 3:06:23 PM

GYPZYQUEEN

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ORIGINAL: couldbemage

Do the extreme savers in this thread have decent income?

If yes, what are you using all the money for?

My "saving" amounts to cooking a quarter of my meals and doing my own maintenance on my motorcycle and totally superfluous sportscar.

Yet I consider myself to have a low paying job.

NO I do not have much of an income BUT I DID ONCE...

I DO not consider I am saving but having an abundant life
with little money

IN A DIFFERENT way...that is not depriving or harsh..
but in a freer way..devoid of slavery to the buck.

I taught school for years at about $55,ooo year..
When my husband died...I lost my home...belongings..everthing due to many things including no life insurance and huge debts.
I used most of my pension I cashed out to pay the debts..

then decided to USE as little money as possible...
to not be a slave to it...to never feel how I felt when he died..
to go from a 3300 sq ft house to burning a chair for heat in an old shack and eating syrup to keep blood sugar up

I found what was important...freedom...peace..security and family..
NO I do not have much of an income.. I barter,,,,exchange..trade..and share...and have more freedom and more ABUNDANCE than ever.

I have NO DEBTS...I pay rent sometimes..
so I am not USING money much...

it is scary at first...
I guess I live on about..
maybe...$7000 year and would like it to be close to 0

I am lucky in that I have access
to many things others do not and I am most thankful...
I have access to country...gardens..veg and food exchange..hunters who trade meat...I trade work for things like horse riding lessons or use of a vacation cabin..my art comes in handy to exchange even at the dentist...yep,,and I create a newsletter in exchange for office space downtown..things like that..I am invited to speak about EROTICISM and the GODDESS and this gives me some trips...
I was given a teepee by elders so have a back-up home ahahhaha

THIS MONTH I DID NOT SPEND even one dollar for 23 days..

and I do not try to get others to buy me stuff or pay my way..
my rent could be paid for example by subs( thye have offered)..nope..I don't go there
If we decide to buy land at some time ..so be it...they will have their share.

WHEN I write of the things for others I am trying to be very careful of being a know it all and AM not thinking everyone should do as me..

IT IS my hope that with a few changes..
ppl can get more of a control on their lives..finance..futures and be prepared for any major changes in life that comes their way..

Something as simple as having a water storage...or a month's supply of food can make all the dif in many situations

I do not believe in FEAR based info..simply be alert and prepared..

GQ

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/21/2009 6:04:18 PM

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I do understand the appeal of your way, and I enjoy the occassional break.

....but overall I prefer the fast life.

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RE: "Recession"/shoestring /frugality - 6/22/2009 9:51:20 PM

GYPZYQUEEN

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ORIGINAL: couldbemage

I do understand the appeal of your way, and I enjoy the occassional break.

....but overall I prefer the fast life.

what is a fast life??
maybe I am too old to know anymore...
but have a fast one and store some water....

GQ

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