Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Ireland, Europe Education?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Ireland, Europe Education? Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Ireland, Europe Education? - 7/16/2009 6:31:55 AM   
meatcleaver


Posts: 9030
Joined: 3/13/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Art4Love


I did some research on my own, but without hearing from people who actually live in Ireland and Europe, I can't really see the full scope of reality.



It's cheaper, just as good and far more rewarding just to get a job and rent a studio in a district with a lot of artists than going to college. You will learn more both about art, life and the difficult world you want to exist in. You are never told at art college that once you leave, if you have no contacts, you are pretty well fucked. Get into a scene, most capitals have one, there you will learn the reality of life for the majority of artists. Near on zilch % make a living out of their art, some teach, some do commercial work, some are good form fillers and get by on public art funding. I wish someone advised me to skip art college and get a studio in an arts district, network, find contacts and promote myself.

But then, if that piece of paper is more important than art, go to college. I've used my BA and Masters for just about every job I've ever had but its never been of use to me in pursuing art as a living. Berlin's Mitte district is thriving or get a squat or cheap room in Kreusberg. Paris has a similar district but you would need to look that up. London has Hackney (I think its still gouing strong). Berlin's for me, the place is a cauldron of creativity at the moment, even with the recession but there in lies the problem, earning a living is difficult but the place is cheap and artists get by one way or another. It just takjes the guts to go for it.

The most important thing is to mix with artists, discuss art, experiment and find you own subject, your own dialog. College delays that. You go to college and you are still left with finding your own subject and dialog after you have left. But as I said, if it is the degree you're after, why bother with a fine art degree, there are much better and practically more helpful ones in terms of future employment to spend your time pursuing.

< Message edited by meatcleaver -- 7/16/2009 6:35:41 AM >


_____________________________

There are fascists who consider themselves humanitarians, like cannibals on a health kick, eating only vegetarians.

(in reply to Art4Love)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: Ireland, Europe Education? - 7/16/2009 12:42:00 PM   
pahunkboy


Posts: 33061
Joined: 2/26/2006
From: Central Pennsylvania
Status: offline
My best knowledge in life has been self taught.

I love Meats answere.

My 1st apartment was such!!!   

(in reply to meatcleaver)
Profile   Post #: 22
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2]
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Ireland, Europe Education? Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.047