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ownedgirlie -> RE: Dom or Master (2/19/2006 6:08:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterOwnskitty

In my opinion, one cannot be a Master without a slave as much as one cannot be a slave without a Master. Sort of like being a husband with no wife. You can certainly call yourself whatever you desire as we all have that freedom but one compliments the other and without the two together, I really can't see how you can be one without the other.

As for "dom," that's a generic term for someone who has a dominant trait within the realm of this lifestyle. Again, you can call yourself anything you wish, but actions always speak louder than words, particularly when it comes to being a "dom."



This is exactly as i have learned it to be, complete with husband/wife analogy.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Dom or Master (2/19/2006 9:46:27 PM)

Master vs Dom

Reposted:
If you look at all those sub vs slave threads about- the same exact thing can be applied to the master/dom discussion.

Every person you ask will give you a different answer. Whatever you decide for yourself, many people will tell you that you are wrong.

For me a dom is someone who is oriented in personal intimate relationships to be fulfilled by having authority over another in an ongoing basis.

A master/mistress is someone who is oriented in personal intimate relationships to be fulfilled by having all ultimate authority over another that is possible.




SimplyV -> RE: Dom or Master (2/19/2006 11:20:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DragonNphoenix


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ORIGINAL: SimplyV

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ORIGINAL: chocolatte2004

What is the difference in your opinion between a Dom and a Master...? Is there a difference at all?


For me.. Dom.. is short for Dominant (usually male dominant) which is a generalized term for Masters, Sir, Daddy, etc. All Masters in this lifestyle are considered Dominant, but not all Dominants are considered Masters. (same works for Sirs and Daddies)

Its like a generalized term for a group of people. Take for example.. Female.. encompasses the entire female sex, including women, girls, young women, broads, etc.

I also consider D/s the generalized term for a relationship build on a power-structure, which would include any M/s or Daddy/son, or Daddy/girl or any other variation.

As far as what "Master" means.. well.. thats not easily defined as it tends to be subjective and based on others opinions and perceptions.

Hope that was as clear as mud to you. [:)]



Nicely put... V, the only thing that I would add is

Master refers to the Male Dominant in a Master/slave relationship. They are usually more strict than a Dom and are usually involved with a slave.

Just my 2 cents...

1st Girl Phoenix


True.. Master tends to refer to the "Master" in a M/s relationship. Whether they are more strict than another D/s type relationship, that is up to the people involved in the relationships. I've met "Daddies" who were very strict and "Masters" who were rather lienient. Personally, I think people just use the "label" that makes them feel comfortable in the D/s relationship they're in or the "label" that fits the fantasy they've built up in their heads.

I'm more lenient with terms.. aka Don't really care what people really call themselves (actions speak volumes).. but I have a hard time accepting someone saying they're a "Master" if they have no collared subs or slaves.. I tend to agree with the husband/wife analogy someone had earlier.

V





TndrSdst -> RE: Dom or Master (11/2/2006 8:17:46 AM)

What ever happened to the Days we earned the titles we use. How can one call himself a Master if they have not MAstered thier own life? ( and at a tender young age that seems rather challanging.) We had to go thru ground up training to earn our Strips if you will. However I guess I am going of on another topic.
With all due respect given to everyone on CM, I find very few True Masters, there are a few... This also goes for the Dommes as well. Sorry Ladies, I have found many Ladies also self labeling to the detriment of some poor subs/slaves just comming into the lifestyle. There are always exceptions to the rule.....

So in answer to the question, Master /Dom are just labels.. actions will tell you the truth about the person. Take care...

Flogginly Yours,
TndrSdst




LadyOunce -> RE: Dom or Master (11/2/2006 9:52:59 AM)

Anymore it is merely the whim of the one being adressed. Once up on a time it was a lot more defined and set but that has dissolved in this day and age of more coming to the lifestyle with their own ways and desires.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Dom or Master (11/2/2006 12:23:14 PM)

Yeah, and I'm one of'em.  I am Lam the True.

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ORIGINAL: TndrSdst

With all due respect given to everyone on CM, I find very few True Masters, there are a few...




akisha -> RE: Dom or Master (11/2/2006 8:16:34 PM)

My interpretation in a BDSM sense


Dominant - A person that likes to be in control.

My Dominant - The Dominant person that I have given control over to.

Master - The Dominant person that I have given control over to and have accepted a collar from and therefor belong to.

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ExtremeOwnerIL -> RE: Dom or Master (11/3/2006 4:37:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Yeah, and I'm one of'em.  I am Lam the True.

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ORIGINAL: TndrSdst

With all due respect given to everyone on CM, I find very few True Masters, there are a few...



The Twue what?

Regards,
EO




Dnomyar -> RE: Dom or Master (11/3/2006 4:46:44 AM)

If a Master can Masterbate. What does a Dom do?????




SirLordTrainer -> RE: Dom or Master (11/3/2006 4:58:03 AM)

This thread is pretty much like the other currently running on the board so I'll add My two nickles worth in saying what I said on that post.

A Master (or 'Mistress' for that matter) is One who has earned that title, and not necessarily awarded that title by some organized sect.

In short, I feel it is the ability to not only put in the flight-time to learn these various skills, but also in being able to teach them. Not many average Doms endeavor to do that, and IMV that is the seperation.

Edited to add this lifestyle imo is about continual growth and having fun along with all the other perks. A never-ending journey of learning and discovery. 




Jasmyn -> RE: Dom or Master (11/3/2006 4:58:49 AM)

Dominate ... a Master controls, a dom dominates ...




patina -> RE: Dom or Master (11/4/2006 7:06:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Troubleinparadis

IMHO the diffrence is only in the eyes of the person claiming the title.

Sometimes the diffrence is vast, other times non existant.

The only thing constant is just about each and every person has a diffrent internal deffinition of these (and most bdsm) labels.



Add to that also the opinion of the person giving the title to another.  He may call himself a Master but only I will decide who is my Master.


Patina




SirMichealspeach -> RE: Dom or Master (11/5/2006 5:01:48 AM)

Dom to me is any Dominant (male or female) that is not MY Dominant.
Master is My Dom.

A Dominant can be Dom without a sub/slave
A Master cannot be Master without a sub/slave




crouchingtigress -> RE: Dom or Master (11/5/2006 5:53:02 AM)

My personal opinion is that BDSM offers one the potential of creating a great symphony of the Mind, Body and Spirit.
 
To a new submissive the sojourn it might look a little like this:
 
a Top: This is the person you give the stewardship of your body to. (his skill set primary deals with a vast array of techniques and is a very fun person to play with)
 
a Dom: This would be the person you give the stewardship of your mind to. (his skill set includes all the yummy techniques, but he also craves more from the exchange, he wants to feel  more of a total surrender, he wants a more complete and encompassing control)
 
and a Master: This would be the person, who when both the body are safe and in harmony, you begin the process of unconsciously giving the stewardship of your spirit to. (this person, has honed his techniques and skills in both the mental and physical arenas but he want a heart connection, he is willing to invest himself fully, to do what ever needs to be done, to create a life partner that is 100 percent invested in him.)




Betacoywolf -> RE: Dom or Master (11/5/2006 6:05:13 AM)

I agree with this one most simple and basic....BCW




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