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Now, I dunno...but that sounds pretty racist to Me...and I know that not all black people are like this, but there are quite a few that I've run into in My life...does it bother Me? Not really...because I know that blacks aren't the only ones to have suffered slavery in this country, yeah, they prettied it up and called it indentured servitude, but it was still slavery...only the people holding those contracts weren't obligated to provide for the well being of the contractee...*shrugs* My point with all this is simple, as My Grandfather once told Me  "Learn from the past, don't live in it."  Wise words from a wise Man. And if anyone is wondering, no, My Grandfather wasn't what you might call white...he was Sicilian...and suffered quite a bit of ethnic slurs in this country when he first came here in the early 20's including being called a "fucking dago wap".   In the words of another, equally wise Man...Stan Lee...
" 'Nuff said."

No shit?  Your grandfather suffered ethnic slurs?

Was he beaten, chained, and hauled to a distant country to be used as a slave?

As for your first point, to try to say indentured servitude was equivalent to slavery is a willful disregard of history.

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Indentured Servants in colonial America were, for the most part, adult white persons who were bound to labor for a period of years. There were three well-known classes: the free-willers, or redemptioners; those who were enticed to leave their home country out of poverty or who were kidnapped for political or religious reasons; and convicts. The first class represented those who chose to bind themselves to labor for a definite time to pay for their passage to America. The best known of these were Germans, but many English and Scottish men and women came in the same way. The second class, those who came to escape poverty or were forcibly brought to the colonies, was large because of the scarcity of labor in America. Their services were profitably sold to plantation owners or farmers, who indentured them for a period of years. The third class, convicts, were sentenced to deportation and on arrival in America were indentured unless they had personal funds to maintain themselves. Seven years was a common term of such service. The West Indies and Maryland appear to have received the largest number of immigrants of the third class.

http://www.answers.com/topic/indentured-servant

for some, rule, yes they were

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The sad thing is with all the serious problems in the world, people
are spending as much time and energy on this as:
Michael Jackson.
 
At least with Michael, the legacy of his music will  live on.
Not sure what people get out of this endless debate.

All the many serious problems in the world............

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ORIGINAL: Brain

Obama-Haters Becoming Increasingly...Racial In Their Rhetoric

An interesting pattern has emerged in the last few weeks, as President Obama's ratings have started to come down to Earth: You can really see a type of Obama-hatred out there that really does cross over into a purely racial territory.

This has gotten especially worse in the aftermath of Obama's comments and subsequent mea culpa on the Henry Louis Gates arrest, but the pattern has been there all the same. You can look back to the 2008 campaign, with the Jeremiah Wright controversies, the phony rumors of a tape of Michelle Obama defaming whites, and the slow but steady emergence of the Birthers. And these days, the Birthers seem to be getting more and more bellicose.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-haters-becoming-increasingly-racial-in-their-rhetoric.php

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ORIGINAL: Brain

Obama-Haters Becoming Increasingly...Racial In Their Rhetoric

An interesting pattern has emerged in the last few weeks, as President Obama's ratings have started to come down to Earth: You can really see a type of Obama-hatred out there that really does cross over into a purely racial territory.

This has gotten especially worse in the aftermath of Obama's comments and subsequent mea culpa on the Henry Louis Gates arrest, but the pattern has been there all the same. You can look back to the 2008 campaign, with the Jeremiah Wright controversies, the phony rumors of a tape of Michelle Obama defaming whites, and the slow but steady emergence of the Birthers. And these days, the Birthers seem to be getting more and more bellicose.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-haters-becoming-increasingly-racial-in-their-rhetoric.php

Both sides have become more racial. It might have something to do with inappropriate statements by a President about something he knew too little about in defense of someone solely because he was black and a friend.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Brain

Obama-Haters Becoming Increasingly...Racial In Their Rhetoric

An interesting pattern has emerged in the last few weeks, as President Obama's ratings have started to come down to Earth: You can really see a type of Obama-hatred out there that really does cross over into a purely racial territory.

This has gotten especially worse in the aftermath of Obama's comments and subsequent mea culpa on the Henry Louis Gates arrest, but the pattern has been there all the same. You can look back to the 2008 campaign, with the Jeremiah Wright controversies, the phony rumors of a tape of Michelle Obama defaming whites, and the slow but steady emergence of the Birthers. And these days, the Birthers seem to be getting more and more bellicose.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-haters-becoming-increasingly-racial-in-their-rhetoric.php

Both sides have become more racial. It might have something to do with inappropriate statements by a President about something he knew too little about in defense of someone solely because he was black and a friend.

Other than historical referance "slavery in the U.S." just doesn't mean anything to me. None of my people were here then!

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Both sides have become more racial. It might have something to do with inappropriate statements by a President about something he knew too little about in defense of someone solely because he was black and a friend.

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Both sides have become more racial. It might have something to do with inappropriate statements by a President about something he knew too little about in defense of someone solely because he was black and a friend.

I'd say that at the very least, that's certainly not helping. That was a foolish, rash, and very disappointing thing to say. It seems as though every week, he does at least one more thing to reinforce the perception that he really isn't ready for prime time after all.

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I still think he's lightyears ahead of where McCain would have been, but Hillary is starting to look like a hell of a lot better candidate in the rearview mirror then she did when she was in the headlights. 

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Obama Mishandled Comments on Race


""Look, the president doesn't spend a whole lot of time focused on polling," Gibbs said. "The president isn't fixated on the ups and downs in polling. If we were, we'd have quit two years ago this summer, if ever even run for president."

Fire up ye olde time machine, Esinn.