Louve00
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ORIGINAL: Zevar I am presenting the following for discussion. I welcome discussion about any or all of the following questions. 1} What defines a gorean framework? 2} Is a gorean framework something that is defined individually for those who are Free or is it defined in another manner and if so how and by whom? 3} How does a gorean framework become integrated into the daily life of the Household of the Free? 4} What about or rather within a gorean framework separates from a non-gorean framework? 5} What role does gorean morality have to do with defining a gorean framework? 6} How does the a defined gorean framework lends itself to the welfare of society? 7} What contributing factors of defined gorean framework contribute to the daily living as a gorean? I was interested in your studies and findings. So not being gorean, I would like to address some (or all) of your points, keeping in mind the gorean association of it all, and how I understand it. First of all, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'framework'. I will interpret framework to be 'foundation'. And hope that doesn't skew the answers. Secondly, I am not for women liberation at all, but is that because of the economy and women keeping more jobs than men because their cheaper to keep? Is it survival, or are they truly trying to oppress men? Regardless... 1) I would think a gorean framework would be based on personal integrity and truth, mixed with a passion to socialize and live life to its fullest, enjoying the beauty and commeraderie of it all. I think the lot of them are loyal people, and righteous people. I think they live and believe firmly in what we (as Americans) think of as classes of people. (high class, medium class, and low class equating (maybe) to the castes (if easier to associate it with gorean). Indigent, homeless, the burdens of our society, being the slaves. (no offense, I'm sure the book Goreans didn't see slaves as 'burdens'. 2) I think every individual, Gorean or not, leads their lives individually. Thats what makes us all different, and Goreans believed this too. Of course there are laws and ammendments that set forth what we can and can't do legally. Given some of the titles of the men who held high positions in certain cities of Gor, goreans had a political base too. Whether it was as crooked as our is, I don't know. ;) 3) I don't think I can answer this question, if I believe Goreans are individuals, abiding by laws and rights afforded to them, based on their class, living their lives according to their goals and ambitions. 4) I think it would depend on the morals of the non-gorean household. My household for example would be very similar to a Goreans household, I would bet. Even goreans can have bad morals, as thieves and rogues were goreans too. (I'm not a rogue, though lol) I think it is the secular points that make it different, and I am not equipped to handle an answer to that question, not being gorean. 5) I think there are good and bad goreans. There is a ying and a yang to everything. 6) If you mean a society that is ungorean, I would think a profession, volunteer work in a passion of theirs, anything that they can contribute to, or do from their own, personal desire would contribute to the welfare of society. Any society. lol...unless they were all from Port Kar before Bosk got a hold of them. Then it would be zero contribution and it wouldn't matter to any involved. 7) I would think in living their beliefs to the best of their ability. Which is rewarding for anyone who strives to be their best.
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For the great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearance, as though they were realities and are often more influenced by the things that seem than by those that are. - Niccolo Machiavelli
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