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Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 2:23:39 AM   
fadedshadow


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Status: offline 		okay where do you stand on politics? (well US politics anyway)

republican, democrat, third party, other, don't really care?

if i missed anything please feel free to let me know


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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 2:34:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have no idea where I would fit in US politics, sometimes I agree with the rabid lefties, sometimes I agree with the rabid righties, and often I am more right wing or left wing than them on issues. I am a Libertarian on some issues, and strict Constitutionalist on some, in many ways I think the Constitution is a bit wimpy in the rights is guarantees, and in other ways I think it needs to be scaled back.
In Canadian terms I find myself siding with all the parties on various issues, sometimes I am with the NDP, sometimes with the Conservatives, and sometimes even siding with the Bloc. In my days I have voted for every major party (except the Bloc, but I don't live in Quebec so I can't) and some of the minor parties (yup, even Rhino). I once sent Gilles Duceppe an email (which was acknowledged and for which they thanked me) telling him that if the Bloc would drop the separatist plank and run candidates outside of Quebec on their platform of a much looser federation I would support them.
No particular political ideology holds the answers for me,  I have even found myself at times holding opinions that are damn near fascist (or to be more precise corporatist). I am a firm believer in the supremacy of individual rights and at the same time a very ardent monarchist. I describe my ideal philosophy as Rational Anarchist. I guess my schizophrenia spills over into the political spectrum.


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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 2:45:52 AM   
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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 4:06:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		On social issues, I tend to be very liberal. On fiscal issues, I tend to be very conservative. On foreign affairs, I am a hawk.

I will and have voted for Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Libertarians, Green Party, etc. If I agree with a candidate for the most part (I don't expect absolute agreement) and they seem trustworthy, they can have my vote. But they only get one chance; when they fuck it up and break their word, I won't vote for them again.

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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 4:07:57 AM   
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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 10:11:55 AM   
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quote:

okay where do you stand on politics? (well US politics anyway)


I don't know where I stand. Frankly, I think I've decided that it's all bullshit, and as long as we keep paying these people, they're going to keep stealing from us and trying to poke a hand up our asses like 300 million puppets.

I'm seriously looking at a bungalow in a sparsely populated area that is virtually impossible to get to and doesn't have any viable commercial value, aside from what I can pull out of the soil with a little kitchen garden, some chickens, some goats, a miniature cow, and a few pigs. I already gave up grains a year ago, so screw the baker and the 'daily bread'. It doesn't necessarily have to be in the US -- anywhere with fewer than 500 people within 50 square miles in the nearest city, and nobody within 10 square miles of -me- works for me. The rest of the population can cling to their "isms" 'till society collapses in on itself.

*completely disgusted*
DC

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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 10:28:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		I haven't missed an election since I was 18 (primary or general) and I've never voted a straight party ticket.  I have this wierd habit of voting for the PERSON that I think will do the best job.  Some jobs require a diff mindset and no one party has the policies for all jobs.  My favorite example is if you are electing a public defender and district attorney.  the public defender is supposed to be looking out for the rights of the "downtrodden and poor" and should probably be more of a liberal.  On the other hand, a DA should be a hard core anti-crime right winger and hopefully, they will even each other out and things will work out right..... not that it ever happens but its a great idea.

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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 10:50:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I haven't missed an election since I was 18 (primary or general) and I've never voted a straight party ticket.  I have this wierd habit of voting for the PERSON that I think will do the best job.  Some jobs require a diff mindset and no one party has the policies for all jobs.  My favorite example is if you are electing a public defender and district attorney.  the public defender is supposed to be looking out for the rights of the "downtrodden and poor" and should probably be more of a liberal.  On the other hand, a DA should be a hard core anti-crime right winger and hopefully, they will even each other out and things will work out right..... not that it ever happens but its a great idea.


*nods* I've also been voting for 30 years, and that was pretty much my philosophy, too... and vote for constitutionalists and libertarians as lawmakers... but after this last election, I finally got it through my thick head that it just doesn't matter.

DC


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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 2:12:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a vision of what I want my country to be and what path I want it to follow. I understand reality will never match this vision. I will vote for the candidate that I believe will come the closest to my way of thinking. In most but not all cases the Democratic Party candidate comes closest.

I will also vote for people that will give my candidate the most support or have the best chance of winning...even if I don't like them personally. For instance Obama was not my first choice as President but I voted for him because he was the closest to my thinking with a chance of winning.

Butch


sorry DC the comment was for the OP

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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 3:42:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm firmly centrist. It's just that so much of the country had moved so far to the right wing nut job extreme, it just seemed like I was a radical lefty. (Just look at how I'm attacked ad hom. by guys like Firm, Sanity and the rest of the "Newt Youth" for verification.)

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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 7:51:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		"What's your religion, what are your politics, who likes heavy metal..."  Have you considered following people's comments in the threads, and forming an impression instead of just asking us all to hop into little boxes for you?

Who am I politically?  I'm the guy at the Republican meeting who has a lot of the regulars feeling uneasy and expects to get paid when working a campaign, and I'm the guy who never answers his phone anymore when the local Democrats are looking for somebody with a truck and work ethic to set up for an event.  I think the best way to achieve the goals I once thought I shared with liberals, is by using the methods of conservatism.  I own guns, and am prepared to bring them to the defense of free speech.  Lots more, but you'll just have to tune in.


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RE: Politics Thing - 7/29/2009 8:41:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I vote on a persons actions, experience, and the plans they have written down versus what they say. That little letter in front of their name means nothing to me. If I don't know you, then I'm sure as hell not going to vote.

Most politicians are in the R and D party for support and votes. It's sad to say but most people continue to vote for the letter versus the person and then wonder why everything is so screwed up. What's even worse is that most of America is to scared to vote in an independant or 3rd Party. We have to much fear that the vote would be worthless giving a D or R canidate a higher chance of winning.

So what do the most of us do instead? We vote either D or R in a hope that we vote out the lessor of the two evils.

My own home town had a guy who ran for mayor as a republican. His speech and ideas where great. However, he lost the election by a landslide to a Democrat. Next go around, he joined the Democratic party. He gave the same speech, same beliefs, plans, and ideas for the town. He became mayor, but not for the man he was, but the party he joined that the stupid red neck town kept voting for.

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