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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 2/28/2006 11:11:24 AM   
IronBear


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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


It seems, however, that since you don't truly believe in male supremacy, RealOne is going to have to take away a point from the 'mans' side which brings us back to even.


Celeste


Within the Gorean Lifestyle and as such in a Gorean Holding and amongst Gorean Lifestylers, I absolutely believe in male Supremacy. It's just that i have many female friends who are Dommes and others who are strong women and not submissive at all. However even with a nuymber of those ladies, I suspect that with the right man for each of them, they may well fee the need to submit to him and him alone. It's a case of human dynamics.

Tantra is an important part of the Magick of sex. There are of course other techniques which probably fit many Pagan beliefs better, but the end resuly is much the same. the understandig of the intricacies of the sex act with all it's ramifications..... I'll have a brood about such a thread.. a good old fashion Celtic brood or as my Lakota faminy would say, "he's going to meet with the Bears".................


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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 2/28/2006 11:54:47 AM   
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i am quite suprised that of all the people on this site that claim to either be a female supremacist, or practice it, or believe in it, not even "one" has stepped up to the plate to tell us what they are about and why one would wish to believe in them or for that matter even consider them credible.

there are literally thousands of women on here with fem supremacy checked and many say it in their profiles so where are they????????

So far guys 1 gals 0





Didn't even realize this thread was here.
Let''s start with the fact that these thousands of women are not on the boards at all. So they wouldn't even kown that you've thrown out a challenge that they should defend. I am willing to bet that most of them never even bother to click on the message boards link. Same for the largest pecentage of people using this site. *shrugs*
I consider this a pretty big generalization. Do you think the incredibly small percentage of people who post regularly are truly representative of the collarme general population?
As to Me...
I am Dominant. That doesn't make Me supreme. It just makes Me Dominant. I view people with the information I have. I care not regarding their orientation. I care about their presentation.
Am I the supreme goddess in a personal D/s or M/s relationship. You bet! And even though there are "thousands" who have Female Supremacy checked, I am willing to bet that a good portion of them mean it in the lifestyle relationship sense, and not in the "I am Woman, I am Supreme to all men" attitude. YMMV
*stopped reading to answer this, and apolologize if already addressed and I am reiterating...now returning to read the remainder of this thread.*

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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 2/28/2006 12:11:31 PM   
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Within the Gorean Lifestyle and as such in a Gorean Holding and amongst Gorean Lifestylers, I absolutely believe in male Supremacy. It's just that i have many female friends who are Dommes and others who are strong women and not submissive at all. However even with a nuymber of those ladies, I suspect that with the right man for each of them, they may well fee the need to submit to him and him alone. It's a case of human dynamics.


That sounds like qualified male supremacy and that's probably as close as one can get. I don't think you get to score a point for that one, though. ;)

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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 2/28/2006 1:18:39 PM   
IronBear


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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 2/28/2006 1:47:29 PM   
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Toss ya for it??????


I don't know.. I have the distinct feeling you'd want both heads and tails. ::laughs::

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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 2/28/2006 1:54:39 PM   
IronBear


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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 3/1/2006 8:37:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Within the Gorean Lifestyle and as such in a Gorean Holding and amongst Gorean Lifestylers, I absolutely believe in male Supremacy. It's just that i have many female friends who are Dommes and others who are strong women and not submissive at all. However even with a nuymber of those ladies, I suspect that with the right man for each of them, they may well fee the need to submit to him and him alone. It's a case of human dynamics.

Tantra is an important part of the Magick of sex. There are of course other techniques which probably fit many Pagan beliefs better, but the end resuly is much the same. the understandig of the intricacies of the sex act with all it's ramifications..... I'll have a brood about such a thread.. a good old fashion Celtic brood or as my Lakota faminy would say, "he's going to meet with the Bears".................



"Meet with the Bears", that's a good one :)

I'd definitely say that IB qualifies for the disputed point on RO's scoreboard. Anyone who believes that with the right man, a dominant female may feel the need to submit to him (and only him) qualifies as a Male Supremacist.

I don't think there are as many women who believe in FS as there are men who do-I've certainly heard from plenty of them prattling on about their own inferiority due to their gender, and the natural superiority of women (that's another thing that guarantees someone will not receive a response to their email). I've also not seen much in the way of material on the subject-other than what is written by Female Pro Dommes (which I'd term targeted marketing material).

No matter how we have divided up the human race throughout our history, by age, color, "race", religion, etc., in order to decide who was the ruler and who the ruled, we always ended up with a mixture in each group. Good people and total assholes. Geniuses and the entirely stupid. It's the same if you make the dividing line male/female.

And, I have to ask... Where in all of this binary discussion are those who don't fit the male box or the female box, whether due to physical sex or psychological gender? Those who are either Intersex, transsexual, or genderqueer, or gender neutral.

Or are they the truly superior humans? Not exclusively male or female, but a mixture, on some level of both. (No, I don't really mean that, it's just something to think about).

Good idea on the mead, IB, goes well with popcorn. Anyone got a corkscrew?

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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 3/18/2006 4:30:29 PM   
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And, I have to ask... Where in all of this binary discussion are those who don't fit the male box or the female box, whether due to physical sex or psychological gender? Those who are either Intersex, transsexual, or genderqueer, or gender neutral.
Phoenix


i know this one! shift left and shift right!

actually that is a very excellent question!

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
Multiple orgasms.

We get 'em. You don't. Not only do we get em.. you all give them to us and further than that, we don't even need you to give them to us because we can give them to ourselves and to each other.

Celeste


woah now! taint got nuttin on me there! i get em too! as many as you! one for one! :)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
It seems, however, that since you don't truly believe in male supremacy, RealOne is going to have to take away a point from the 'mans' side which brings us back to even.

Unless of course, he awards the women a point for brain efficiency. ::laughs::

;)

Celeste


LOL

i cant take the point away but i can give a point to the women! actually it would have to be 2 points for the women now because the men presented a premise with no really extensive elaboration on it as you did for the women. That and you made more than one premise that i believe may be equally valid unless one of the guys step up to the plate with a good counter argument to negate it if that is possible, so it seems that its fair to make it 2 - 1 favor of the fem supremacist. (even tho you think its bs)! LOL

i think you did a bang up job with an excellent and compelling argument celeste! You brought up many points i would not have even dreamed of.

i am wondering if the guys will be able to bring back a good counter strike for the men, that was one hell a post imo. and very educational too.





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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 3/18/2006 5:28:35 PM   
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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 3/19/2006 2:04:27 AM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		Actually R1, in a Gorean society albeit small, and including a single Gorean House, the males are supreme. All Goreans male and female wioll agree to that. Not all will agreeto the finner points as to it's implemation however. As for the rest (non Gorean) as long as they leave me, mine and my Brothers alone, what they do is a moot point as far as I am concerned.

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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 3/19/2006 3:29:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		i think men are the naturally dominate species...the reason...i just cant imagine a woman staying dominate while a man is fucking her in the ass for very long, or staying dominate while a man is fucking her anyway for very long.... *grin* like lets get real *grin* like if we wanna get all neanderthal about it...and god do i love primal raw sexuality expressed *grin* Like if a woman wants to fuck someone wildly in the ass or whatever..she has to get a strap on...and become a man *grin* hehe..think about it

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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 3/20/2006 12:54:45 PM   
Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Actually R1, in a Gorean society albeit small, and including a single Gorean House, the males are supreme. All Goreans male and female wioll agree to that. Not all will agreeto the finner points as to it's implemation however. As for the rest (non Gorean) as long as they leave me, mine and my Brothers alone, what they do is a moot point as far as I am concerned.


i think there are many believers of male supremacy that extend beyond the gorean group as well.  Likewise for female supremacy.


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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 3/21/2006 11:02:07 AM   
IronBear


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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

Actually R1, in a Gorean society albeit small, and including a single Gorean House, the males are supreme. All Goreans male and female wioll agree to that. Not all will agreeto the finner points as to it's implemation however. As for the rest (non Gorean) as long as they leave me, mine and my Brothers alone, what they do is a moot point as far as I am concerned.


i think there are many believers of male supremacy that extend beyond the gorean group as well.  Likewise for female supremacy.



Of course there are my friend, However asd I live a Gorean Lifestyle and have a Gorean Home and as such am part of the Gorean Community, I have no need to interfere how other peoples love as long as our integrety is not violated...  I.E I speak for me and mine.. and give my blessings to the others.


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RE: Supreme-E-est of Supreme - 3/21/2006 4:48:43 PM   
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Nothing can be "supreme" unless the rest agree to it.


I dunno - I just ordered a Meat Lover's Supreme and I didn't have anyone's agreement on it...

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