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mrbob726 -> Government as usual (8/2/2009 12:45:59 PM)

The House and Senate of the State of Illinois, being in dire straits for income, will pass (or have passed?) an increase in the sales tax for pop and candy. Now this in and of itself isn't the reason for this post. The problem is that, certain candies, gum drops etc, will have the Tax increase, while certain others (Twizzlers) will not. The criteria for application of this tax increase is flour. Twizzlers has it, gum drops don't.

Can you just see the candy manufacturers head over heels to add flour to their formulas?

Another example of how government is working for you !




Lorr47 -> RE: Government as usual (8/2/2009 1:39:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mrbob726

The House and Senate of the State of Illinois, being in dire straits for income, will pass (or have passed?) an increase in the sales tax for pop and candy. Now this in and of itself isn't the reason for this post. The problem is that, certain candies, gum drops etc, will have the Tax increase, while certain others (Twizzlers) will not. The criteria for application of this tax increase is flour. Twizzlers has it, gum drops don't.

Can you just see the candy manufacturers head over heels to add flour to their formulas?

Another example of how government is working for you !


Follow the money from "flour" manufacturers to politicians? With everyone paying everyone else off where is ours?

Maybe someone can bring cigarettes to Michigan and we will bring candy to Illinois. (or is it Indiana that has cheaper cigarettes?)




Esinn -> RE: Government as usual (8/2/2009 1:48:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mrbob726

The House and Senate of the State of Illinois, being in dire straits for income, will pass (or have passed?) an increase in the sales tax for pop and candy. Now this in and of itself isn't the reason for this post. The problem is that, certain candies, gum drops etc, will have the Tax increase, while certain others (Twizzlers) will not. The criteria for application of this tax increase is flour. Twizzlers has it, gum drops don't.

Can you just see the candy manufacturers head over heels to add flour to their formulas?

Another example of how government is working for you !


Can you post an article?  I guess we can google it.

Weird shit.




TheHeretic -> RE: Government as usual (8/2/2009 2:04:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mrbob726

Another example of how government is working for you !



Needlessly complicated?  check
Makes for a nice press release?  check
A nice regressive tax?  check

Would President Obama have voted yes, no or present, do you think?
      




servantforuse -> RE: Government as usual (8/2/2009 4:11:24 PM)

Vote the democrats out of office in Illinois and these idiotic taxes will end.




subrob1967 -> RE: Government as usual (8/2/2009 4:59:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Vote the democrats out of office in Illinois and these idiotic taxes will end.


Might as well wish Cook County break off, float across Lake Michigan, and attach itself to Myshitigan




servantforuse -> RE: Government as usual (8/2/2009 5:02:21 PM)

I know. Illinois coined the phrase..''vote early.vote often.''.




mrbob726 -> RE: Government as usual (8/3/2009 9:02:12 AM)

I just got back online - here's a link to the Chicago Tribune article -
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-090802candy-food-taxes,0,7082646.story
Also, in Illinois, it makes no difference, Dem or Repub, every last one of them is a crook, especially in the city of Chicago and Cook County. 
Fortunately, I live in a different county - our taxes actually went down this year - go figure - LOL




mrbob726 -> RE: Government as usual (8/3/2009 9:11:04 AM)

here's most of the text of the article -

So you think you know your candy, Mr. and Ms. Sweet Tooth? The State of Illinois begs to differ.

That regular melt-in-your-mouth Hershey's bar? Candy for sure. But the Cookies 'n' Creme spinoff? That's food, not candy, according to a new state tax law.

A Butterfinger? Candy. Butterfinger Stixx with wafer center? Not candy.

Likewise, Twix, Kit Kat and Twizzlers, are all candy-aisle staples that Illinois no longer officially considers to be candy.

And on it goes down the list of cavity-inducing standbys as the state scratches to squeeze more money out of consumers to help pay for a $31 billion public works program Gov. Pat Quinn recently signed into law.

Taxes are rarely simple, but some revisions to the state sales tax slated to go into effect Sept. 1 are fraught with headache-inducing complexity that could make routine grocery shopping more expensive and deciphering the register tab far more difficult.

"Good luck explaining this to customers," complained Art Potash, owner of the Potash Bros. chain of neighborhood food marts in Chicago. "Then we're the bad guy because we can't explain it to them sufficiently. ... It's a nightmare on many levels."

Retail food sales have long been taxed at a steep discount from other merchandise, and the state defined food in a way most dentists and moms never would, by including candy and soda. The new tax rules demote candy and soft drinks from the food group, making them subject to the full sales-tax freight, which can run as high as 10.25 percent in Chicago.

In practical terms, a $1 candy bar that now sells for about $1.02 with tax will cost about $1.10. under the new rules.

Confusion sets in because lawmakers, in raising the tax, also carved out gaping exceptions. Sweets containing flour as an ingredient--and there are a lot of them--are not legally deemed to be candy, even if common sense and common taste say otherwise. And yes, licorice-based products such as Twizzlers have flour in them.

At a minimum, the new definition could force retailers to scour the fine print on ingredient labels for hundreds of common products and then make difficult judgment calls on their taxability. Some legal experts say the complexity built into the law could make it ripe for a legal challenge.

To make things more complicated, outside Chicago the tax will vary from town to town and county to county. Interpreting the new rules may not be a big deal for giant chains such as Wal-Mart or Walgreens, which have large staffs of legal and product experts on the payroll. It's a different story for small grocers and mom-and-pop convenience shops.

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