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GotSteel -> RE: Define God (8/17/2009 12:45:54 AM)
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Thanks for the response and sorry that Esinn sometimes has trouble interacting at the non asshat level.
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ORIGINAL: VanIsleKnight
Little difficult to explain why. I suppose you could say that it was what I was taught, but as I got older and more aware of the world around me, I of course started to question things for validity. Essentially it came down to personal experiences, beliefs, and choices that I continue to believe in God and Christianity.
I’d encourage you to continue questioning things for validity and to find a good secular scientific resource to get your information from. In order to find out a little more about various scientific theories and the evidence for them. That way you won’t be subject to some of the misinformation that’s floating around the various Christian communities.
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ORIGINAL: VanIsleKnight
The idea that everything happened because of nothing spontaneously and randomly becoming doesn't make sense to me. The idea that an omnipotent being created everything does make sense to me.
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ORIGINAL: VanIsleKnight
I don't know who created the Creator, but I feel extremely confident that we and everything we know exists because God made it and not because of random causality.
There are more than just those two options, the way you’ve presented this is a false dichotomy. You don’t have to pick either spontaneous random poof or Yahweh. There are other ideas and other gods that explain the universe. Furthermore, it could be that none of those explanations are right, past a certain point we don’t have any evidence so we don’t know what happened. I know that “we don‘t know” doesn’t feel as comforting as Jesus, but whether or not something is factually true really doesn’t have anything to do with how emotionally appealing it feels. But maybe I’m reading too much into your “I feel extremely confident” and the use of feel was just an unfortunate word choice and you hold a different position.
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ORIGINAL: VanIsleKnight
So, answer is, I don't know.
That’s a valid answer.
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ORIGINAL: VanIsleKnight
Life and matter is exceedingly complex, it doesn't "just happen".
I doubt you’ll find any physicist or biologist who would state that *poof* matter and life just happened. Scientists have put forth very detailed theories for both of those events. Whereas intelligent design more closely resembles the idea of it just happened (at the whim of some omnipotent being who just exists). Have you heard about abiotic genesis? Even if you dismiss it how do you get from deism to Christianity?
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ORIGINAL: VanIsleKnight
I don't believe however that humans evolved from apes,
You shouldn’t believe that because we didn’t.
Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Humans are more closely related to modern apes than to monkeys, but we didn't evolve from apes, either. Humans share a common ancestor with modern African apes, like gorillas and chimpanzees. Scientists believe this common ancestor existed
5 to 8 million years ago. Shortly thereafter, the species diverged into two separate lineages. One of these lineages ultimately evolved into gorillas and chimps, and the other evolved into early human ancestors called hominids.
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