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Hyperventilation? - 8/10/2009 4:24:44 AM

tombeange

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I must clear this up. I do not enjoy being punished. Master rewards me when I have pleased and punishes me when I have displeased. His methods of punishment never include things that I enjoy. I am devestated when I displease him.

With that said, I received a harsh caning as punishment. I have taken the cane before, though not as hard and not for as long. Sometimes I will push through the pain to see how much I can handle because we have agreed to work slowly towards harder impact sensations. I've been progressing well. When he decided I had learned my lesson and that I was good and sorry for what I had done, he released me from the chains and I dropped to the floor. Remained in a puddle of my own tears and snot (sexy, no?) and sobbed for quite some time. Which is not unusual. My breathing after hard impact 'play' is usually labored due to the sobbing, and often very short and rapid. He always calmly reminds me to slow my breathing, and I have always responded well to this.

This time was different. I sobbed for damn near an hour, while he tried to soothingly bring me back. It didn't work, I continued to sob. He tried ordering to right my breathing with no success. I began to hyperventilate. He worried I would pass out.

I have posted this on another site and I recieved and interesting response from a slave that has experienced the same situation more than once. She has told others to not fuss over her when she is like this. It worries her to know others are worried, which increases anxiety and emotion, causing her to breath more rapidly and sob harder still. I don't know if this will help me should it happen again. I don't often displease him so I am certain that had a lot to do with it. I was mortified, ashamed, I felt so small and disappointed in myself.

Are there any physical possibilities that may have played a card in this? In your opinion, did the intense emotions play a part? Your input and any experience with this would be appreciated. Any tips on how to handle the situation should it happen again? Ideas on preventing it? (I ate a healthy meal and drank an ideal amount of water before hand, as I always do)

Any input, advice, experience sharing would be great as this has me completely lost and a bit worried!

Thank you in advance.

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RE: Hyperventilation? - 8/10/2009 6:05:40 PM

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If you are truly hyperventilating, then what you need to cup your hands around a sandwich paper bag and breath into it. It will enable you to breath back in some of the carbon dioxide you have blown off, and get your breathing back under control.

And just fyi, if you do pass out, then you will wake up when your carbon dioxide level is back in balance. I worked in an ER for years and never saw anyone have any lasting bad effects from hyperventilation. And typically, it was caused by an emotional reaction to something going on in their lives. If everyone involved just stays calm, it will resolve.

It will make you feel like hell, but it won't kill or hurt you.

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RE: Hyperventilation? - 8/11/2009 1:50:49 AM

tombeange

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Thank you kiwisub12, for your input! I later asked Master if we should include paper sacks in the dungeon. I'm thinking that may be a wise decision.

You aren't the first to suggest that I remind those that may be around, should it happen again, to remain calm. I do believe it was linked to the emotional stress of displeasing him, as I'm not in that situation often. We have 'played' (I so dislike that term) since with no set backs!

um, I just noticed this here dancing pineapple. When Master allowed me a safeword, it was pineapple. *giggles*

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RE: Hyperventilation? - 8/11/2009 3:09:48 PM

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There was a point in my life where I would hyperventilate when I was forced to be in large groups. So when my former owner would have me go into those situations he began making me put a small paper bag (like a lunch bag) in my purse.

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RE: Hyperventilation? - 8/11/2009 4:39:08 PM

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When you start panicking, I've found it helps to have you master hold your back against his chest. Being close to another heart beat can help slow yours down. My last submissive had panic attacks pretty regularly (not in scene play just in general) and it worked with him.

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RE: Hyperventilation? - 8/18/2009 6:51:41 PM

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You CANNOT pass out from hyperventilating; some people think so, because it makes them dizzy. But people pass out from the brain not getting enough oxygen (hypoxia), and hyperventilation means you're getting TOO much oxygen, which causes the symptoms.
Of course it was the intense emotions that did it-- and maybe an anxiety/panic fear-reaction to the hyperventilation itself, and fear of the symptoms (i.e. you get dizzy and your head goes numb, so you fear you're going to pass out and die-- this is what causes most panic-attacks).
However hyperventilation can ironically cause you to feel like you're not getting ENOUGH air, so you tend to breathe even faster and deeper into hyperventilation-syndrome.

You shouldn't be driven to such levels-- your Dom should stop IMMEDIATELY if you start to feel this coming on. But if it does go too far by accident, then put some ice on the painful areas, and breathe slowly and evenly into a paper bag.

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