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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 8/23/2009 6:06:37 AM   
whitman


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Status: offline 		Thank you, Mishna, for your thoughful and helpful reply.

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 8/23/2009 11:59:18 AM   
rideemwet


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sperm is frozen medically for indefinite periods of time. Also, with artificial insemination of animals it is the same...no limit on the time. It freezes well.



Hmmm, I keep colostrum in a freezer that's not frost-free because the defrost cycle can eventually ruin it, and at least for the horses its off to the welding shop to refill the liquid nitrogen tank ( -321 degree F) to keep that sperm frozen, so I'd be a little cautious about saying "no time limit" storing it in a conventional freezer.   I'd guess its about as safe as keeping frozen soup broth, which is to say you should be OK with normal precautions.

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 8/23/2009 1:08:40 PM   
Mishna


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ORIGINAL: Rhodes85

So... Mishna, you're suggesting he make 'spermsicles' then?

I'm never going to look the same way at those white popsicles again


Hehehe, sorry 

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 8/23/2009 4:03:04 PM   
DePubed


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Status: offline 		This discussion has reminded me that, strange as it may seem to us, there IS a chinese cuisine that includes "cum"/male ejaculate/ whatever you want to call it. Google: "Sum Yung Gai" and it will tell you the restaurants in the USA that serve this. This is no joke, look it up for yourself on google.

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 8/23/2009 4:07:04 PM   
DePubed


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Status: offline 		Yes, it is called the 'cream' of the semen of a young asian male. "Sum Yung Gai" and itis a chinese delicasy that you can obtain at certain chinese restaurants in the USA. Don task me how they acquire the semen of a young asian male! (check out the waiters, perhaps). But if you contact those restaurants they can tell you from 10,000 years of experience how to obtain the semen, how to preserve it, how to prepare it, how to cook it, and how it eat it. The food-review article that I read (on google) says, that just as with other chinese foods, they add msg to the semen..

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 8/23/2009 4:09:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DePubed

This discussion has reminded me that, strange as it may seem to us, there IS a chinese cuisine that includes "cum"/male ejaculate/ whatever you want to call it. Google: "Sum Yung Gai" and it will tell you the restaurants in the USA that serve this. This is no joke, look it up for yourself on google.



I just did, briefly. Outside the bullshit that is "Urban Dictionary", I couldn't find a single worthy reference. Although, as I say, I only gave it a brief look.

Would you care to post the URL of something you consider authoritative?

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 8/23/2009 4:31:29 PM   
jaxstudent


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Status: offline 		Lol, I think your leg is being pulled. If you haven't said it out loud yet, Sum Yung Gai = some young guy, so "cream of some young guy."

And the probability of they being the real transliteration from Chinese into English if such a dish exists, I'm willing to bet lies around 0.00001%

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 8/23/2009 4:40:36 PM   
RapierFugue


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ORIGINAL: jaxstudent

Lol, I think your leg is being pulled. If you haven't said it out loud yet, Sum Yung Gai = some young guy, so "cream of some young guy."



<raises eyes to heaven>

No, really? You don't say.

I forget sometimes just how retarded some people are. And no, I'm not referring to you.

I was just hoping that, after the xenophobic bullshit that was "the Chinese feed cats to people in restaurants, honest!", someone would try to raise their game a bit.

Ho hum [1]

[1] and no, that's not the name of the chef either, before some wag starts up

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 8/23/2009 4:49:40 PM   
jaxstudent


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Status: offline 		Lol. I ought to have gone along with it >_<


I have a bad habit of skimming over things and just referencing the clumps of letters in my mind rather than actually "reading" and it's been known to happen that I'll say something I read out loud to people, not realizing it was a joke. But once I say, hear it, and realize what I did oh man do I redden up.

hehe, just trying to save someone from the same possible predicament.

-JS

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 8/23/2009 4:55:11 PM   
RapierFugue


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ORIGINAL: jaxstudent

Lol. I ought to have gone along with it >_<



Not a problem, old sport. When you've been fishing as long as I have, you get used to someone scaring the fishies away every now and again.

It's also partially my fault; had I realised some of the readership are on day-release, I'd have gone for the more obvious "yeah sure, hur-hur-hur" response.

Mea culpa [1]

[1] note to day release section of readership: this is not a pasta

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 9/26/2009 3:44:03 PM   
subdrake


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Status: offline 		I read in another forum about some people preferring to use plastic bags for storing and accumulating semen for S&M play, the logic being that you can squeeze the air out and prevent crystalization(??) or similar process  from taking place as the sperm froze, and thus minimize taste alterations. I haven't tried this myself so I cannot testify if this a better method than the pill bottles.

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 9/28/2009 11:17:58 PM   
Aswad


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ORIGINAL: whitman

It's my own cum, but, even frozen, can the cum "go bad"? It seems to me that cum might be an ideal environment for the growth of bacteria. i hope someone can answer this question authoritatively before "the moment of truth" arrives for me.


It starts to "go bad" the moment it's out of your cock. To freeze it, mix it with egg yolk and ensure that it is stored at the lowest possible temperature you can obtain. If it is not all solid, it is not frozen. That is advice from an MD specializing in kinks, by way of a lifestyle magazine up here. That aside, if the temperature is low enough to prevent most humanly biocompatible bacteria, yeast and fungi from thriving, the likelihood of adverse effects- beyond the taste- is low.

I would give it a good heating before consuming it, since that adds an additional temperature extreme for any of the potential microorganisms to deal with before the consumption, or at least wash it down with 60% pure alcohol (nothing with additives, including glycerol, please). But that may be just me. Anyway, if you can afford a surplus freezer that can go down to cryo temps (i.e. from -60 Celsius and downwards), that is the safest way to do it, and the egg yolk should not be necessary to add to it under that circumstance.

As an alternative, you can ask your MD how long various virii (e.g. HIV) and other microorganisms (e.g. gonorrhea) survive in semen exposed to fresh air. If it is not too long, your mistress might be able to arrange a session where you get to collect it from several men (or where several have made recent "donations" in some other way) and then gulp it down afterwards. Depending on how she is wired, that may well be an even greater turn-on for her, and is likely to essentially translate into a fairly large quantity of fresh cum.

Bon apetit.

Health,
al-Aswad.


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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 9/28/2009 11:31:31 PM   
Aswad


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ORIGINAL: BoF

Yes, at temps close to absolute zero (which means MINUS 197 Celsius). In other words, it cant be done at home. Period. Google is your friend, use it. Why do you think they use special equipment for preserving biological material ?


My freezer would liquify nitrogen at its max setting. Yours probably wouldn't. To say it can't be done at home is silly, however. Barring more exotic solutions, even dry ice- if a constant supply is available- can do the job. A liquid nitrogen dewar, needle valve and nozzle will do the trick otherwise, again with a constant supply. The problem is cost. Getting below -60 Celsius is a lot of work. Getting down to -60 Celsius can be done by any electrical engineer on the right side of $100, just not with a medical use approval, as the vast majority of peltiér elements made these days will still operate at that temperature.

If one wants a -50 to -60 celsius mini-fridge for such purposes, then a six pack of beer and the cost of components will be sufficient to convince almost any electrical engineer to do the job. Most of the components can be scavenged from other equipment, with the exception of the box itself (it needs to handle the thermal contraction and expansion, but not much else) and the peltiérs (readily available over eBay at low cost). The whole thing, apart from the heat sinks that get rid of the heat being pumped out of the box, can be contained in glued styrofoam to avoid accidental injury or moisture condensation beyond acceptable limits. Put it in the freezer if moisture does become a problem.

Find a kinky EE, and they may just suppy a decent solution at cost for the satisfaction of knowing what it'll be used for.

Also, bear in mind, he doesn't need the semen to be viable, he just needs it to be edible.

-60 Celsius prevents spoilage for a very long amount of time.

Liquid nitrogen is just overkill.

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 10/3/2009 11:30:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why not just freeze each new 'batch' in ice cube containers? The challenge would be storing it in an air-tight manner...mm...cumsicles!

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RE: Safety of consuming saved, frozen cum - 10/4/2009 9:51:14 PM   
Aswad


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Status: offline 		Air tight is easy enough. Pour liquid nitrogen over it. That will displace the air. Then close the lid with a silicone rubber O-ring with a thin layer of silicone grease on it. That will be sufficient to keep air out. It will not be sufficient to prevent any bacteria or yeasts already in it from growing, but it might put a dent in them. Add 85% ethanol and it will be free of bacteria and yeasts for a while, though. Store as cold as possible.

Cum shots, anyone?

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