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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 8/26/2009 2:26:57 PM   
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I forgot to add earlier, Please do not make the mistake of assuming that since we're women, we do girly things. I don't do any of that stuff you just listed, I am pretty anti girly girl activities. and yes I am a woman, and yes I am genetically  a woman.

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Okay so this should be a fun topic with a lot of opinions...here is what I am after.

Submissive Males - we are in subservient service to Dominant Women.  They are girls...and thus, they do girly things like plucking, primping, plumping, exfoliating, polishing, nipping, braiding, and 78 other words not normally found in common male diction. 


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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 8/26/2009 2:34:31 PM   
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Dominant Ladies- Hi!  You are girls, and thus, you (most of you) perform some combination of girly things like I listed above. 


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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 8/26/2009 3:05:11 PM   
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TY:)

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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 8/26/2009 4:20:37 PM   
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** For the record, I read the words short-block V8 and Hemi in People once...no idea how/if they go together...


So i gathered  "Short block" is something of a technical term, just stick with generic words like "engine" and you'll be better off.

Personally, i want to be able to do everything.  i also happen to fall into a weird spot in the gender identity spectrum, and i feel no obligation to limit myself to "girly stuff" or "manly stuff" in terms of hobbies and skills, although i will admit that the more "girly" personal-grooming type of things appeal more to my submissive side than "manly" projects do. But as long as it's useful stuff, i think it's worth knowing and doing.

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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 8/26/2009 4:24:02 PM   
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Oh gee...I do it *all.*

And I love having help form a compliant sub.


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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 8/28/2009 3:23:44 AM   
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You provide a very intriguing scenario and there have been some enlightening replies.  I don't posses skills in such girly things as braiding hair, but I think it would be a wonderful thing to be able to meet a woman's needs in such a way.  I mean, it goes way beyond basic chores, such as mowing the lawn or cleaning, in that it is more personal and involves trust.  But I can't help wondering, as daintydimples pointed out, where a guy might learn such skills.  Perhaps learning them is half the fun

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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 8/28/2009 3:54:01 AM   
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I love a man who can help me with girly things.  I had one male friend (a pain slut who hates to be called a sub) helped me dye my hair and did a very good job at it.  Nothing feels better than having someone else's hands in my hair.  I swear, that's the real reason women go to beauty salons.  My husband tightens my corsets, fastens my ankle straps and shaves my VaJJ for me.  I have tried to get subs to paint my toenails... doesn't come out very well. 

I think this 'engaging in the girly side' is why so many women love gay men.  They are so much more fun to do things with.  It's like having a girl friend who is strong enough to carry your bags and tall enough to hold the curtain rod in place.  Plus, you get the extra bonus of having a non-threatening male escourt when you want to go some where but don't have a 'date'.

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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 8/28/2009 10:03:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

Okay so this should be a fun topic with a lot of opinions...here is what I am after.

Submissive Males - we are in subservient service to Dominant Women.  They are girls...and thus, they do girly things like plucking, primping, plumping, exfoliating, polishing, nipping, braiding, and 78 other words not normally found in common male diction.  So as a submissive male, how far do you go in engaging with those girly things that they do?  For example...

You just finished putting a hemi in a short-block V8 that you rebuilt with your own hands**...you wash up and go into your Lady's room where you find her sitting at her dressing table frowning.  When you inquire as you remove your shirt exposing rippling abs and bulging biceps, she states that she doesn't know what to do with her hair for tonight.   What feels better to you...for where you are now, and what you kow about yourself and your Lady...

You turn, putting your hands on her exposed shoulders and offer to put her hair into a french braid for the evening.
...or...
You turn, putting your hands on her exposed shoulders, and kiss her neck and head to the shower as that is just -not- something you know about, should ever know about, nor be expected to help with...just not you, nor your dynamic.
Dominant Ladies- Hi!  You are girls, and thus, you (most of you) perform some combination of girly things like I listed above.  And so how much interaction and participation do you desire from your boy in your girly things?  Would it like freak you out if he understood how to not only  rebuild a short-block V8**, but also put your hair into a french braid, do you makeup, or *gasp* organize your closet?  So...where do you come down on this...
Your hair is -not- cooperating today.  He comes in from working on his engine project and you watch as he removes his shirt, sweaty, glistening, rippling...your submissive male***.  He inquires what is the matter and you have the exchange - he just offered to french braid your hair...what is your reaction...

God I fucking LOVE this man ... ] Rosa repeats I fucking LOVE this man!




So that's it in a nutshell.  We males are not all of us Marlboro Men, and yet we are not all of us comfortable around those -girl things- that girls do.  BUT...we are in service to girls.  How much should we know, learn, and feel comfortable  doing for our Ladies down that road?  And Ladies, how much of that sort of service do -you- feel comfortable with us doing for you?

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I'm not much into girly men, (though I do indulge my friend on occasions, as I so adore him for the wonderful person he is), but, I see these types of servcies provided by someone that takes an interest in my needs and desires. Whether they have or seek to aquire the skills, I would see this person as someone whom actually does more than just talk the talk of wanting to be of service. He would appear to me as a person that seeks to serve in a way that is desirable to me, not just in a way that suits his ideas of what he thinks a d/s dynamic should be. For me, this would be the ultimate sub/slave, This would foster a deeper more rewarding relationship for both of us in the long run.

So to answer, I would feel entirely comfortable with a man having the skiils and providing and the services you mentioned.






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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 8/28/2009 11:27:56 AM   
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We males are not all of us Marlboro Men, and yet we are not all of us comfortable around those -girl things- that girls do.  BUT...we are in service to girls.  How much should we know, learn, and feel comfortable  doing for our Ladies down that road? 


As much as our Ladies want, I guess. Personally, I massage my Mistress quite regularly when we're together, but she's never really asked me to do anything with her hair, nails or makeup and I wouldn't know where to begin in any case. However, that's just ignorance on my part, not a case of being "uncomfortable". If she wanted me to learn how to arrange her hair and give her pedicures, I'd do my best, and I suppose I'd probably enjoy the intimacy of grooming her. I certainly wouldn't feel emasculated.

On the other hand, I'd never refer to Mistress as a "girl"... she's mature and accomplished, and it would just feel wrong.

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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/10/2009 2:13:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

Okay so this should be a fun topic with a lot of opinions...here is what I am after.

Submissive Males - we are in subservient service to Dominant Women.  They are girls...and thus, they do girly things like plucking, primping, plumping, exfoliating, polishing, nipping, braiding, and 78 other words not normally found in common male diction.  So as a submissive male, how far do you go in engaging with those girly things that they do?  For example...


You just finished putting a hemi in a short-block V8 that you rebuilt with your own hands**...you wash up and go into your Lady's room where you find her sitting at her dressing table frowning.  When you inquire as you remove your shirt exposing rippling abs and bulging biceps, she states that she doesn't know what to do with her hair for tonight.   What feels better to you...for where you are now, and what you kow about yourself and your Lady...

You turn, putting your hands on her exposed shoulders and offer to put her hair into a french braid for the evening.
...or...
You turn, putting your hands on her exposed shoulders, and kiss her neck and head to the shower as that is just -not- something you know about, should ever know about, nor be expected to help with...just not you, nor your dynamic.
Dominant Ladies- Hi!  You are girls, and thus, you (most of you) perform some combination of girly things like I listed above.  And so how much interaction and participation do you desire from your boy in your girly things?  Would it like freak you out if he understood how to not only  rebuild a short-block V8**, but also put your hair into a french braid, do you makeup, or *gasp* organize your closet?  So...where do you come down on this...

Your hair is -not- cooperating today.  He comes in from working on his engine project and you watch as he removes his shirt, sweaty, glistening, rippling...your submissive male***.  He inquires what is the matter and you have the exchange - he just offered to french braid your hair...what is your reaction...

"God I fucking LOVE this man!"
...or...
You frown and say "Wait...what?  You want to do what?"



So that's it in a nutshell.  We males are not all of us Marlboro Men, and yet we are not all of us comfortable around those -girl things- that girls do.  BUT...we are in service to girls.  How much should we know, learn, and feel comfortable  doing for our Ladies down that road?  And Ladies, how much of that sort of service do -you- feel comfortable with us doing for you?

I suspect that the answers will be quite varied, and I hope it will be a fun discussion... 

** For the record, I read the words short-block V8 and Hemi in People once...no idea how/if they go together...

***For the record, this does not look like me...I am both glad and sad about that...a look into the freaky contradictory mind of a girlie boy...



That was the best question I can imagine to ask a domme, thanks!

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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/10/2009 5:39:34 PM   
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My sub knows how to do everything from coloring My hair to giving Me a pedicure.  Not because he enjoys those activities himself, but because he is in service to Me.  They were skills he had to acquire (to some extent) just like any other service that might separate Me from another Dominant.  Such as not cooking meals that include onions (I'm allergic) or knowing that I don't drink coffee.  It's no different than lacing My corset or putting on My boots.  It's not engaging in a girly side.  


BING!!!

I am willing to learn these things not because I am a cross dresser (although I look damn good in a miniskirt), or I want to embrace my feminine side (sort of already there)....

It comes down the dedication.... service.

And makin' milady look gorgeous.


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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/11/2009 12:54:39 AM   
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Female gender does not equal girliness.  I happen to have tailbone length hair and braiding it and putting it up and down daily is just something that has to be done, and I do it. I would enjoy being able to say, "Do my hair now, please," and having a personal maid take it down, brush it out, and braid it down for the night. But I don't need all the damned simpering cute pink-fetishizing bullshit to go with it, and if he says, "Let me get the grease off my hands, I was just putting new cylinders in the Goat," I am liable to turn around and say, "So, how'd that go? Do you think you'll have the engine ready to drop in by Sunday night? Did you hear back from your friend about that rebuilt racing transmission?" while he washes his hands.

As I said to someone last week, I'm not a girl, I'm a cook. They agreed with me, but I think that was because I had a cleaver in my hand and had just spatchcocked a chicken. (grin)


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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/11/2009 2:04:32 AM   
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I'd be happy to let someone braid my hair, or give me pedi or mani, etc.

It's a nice contrast to me, to have my big strong healthy manly man sub, fix my hair for me. and its not to feminize him in anyway. But I would love knowing that he had the knowledge to do such things. Would make me very happy.


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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/11/2009 2:11:01 AM   
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What's so difficult about braiding hair? 

I learned how to braid rope in Boy Scouts.  Same principle, only you have to be more careful about not tugging.  I used to do my sisters' hair occasionally, when I couldn't find any rope to play with.  Piece of cake.

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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/11/2009 2:14:03 AM   
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Nothing hard about braiding hair. Just not a lot of men know how to brush long hair correctly, or braid it without pulling the girl bald headed.

Even if it IS pretty simple.


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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/11/2009 3:19:05 AM   
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Poppycock.  Men are good at everything.

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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/11/2009 5:54:06 AM   
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Poppycock.  Men are good at everything.


sssshhhhh....no P, that's just you...pipe down, you will give the rest of them a complex...

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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/11/2009 6:09:34 AM   
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On a side note, loved the "short block V-8 Hemi" line :)

Granted, it doesn't make sense (Hemi refers to a specific kind of engine..one made by Chrysler with a hemispherical combustion chamber) and a short block v-8 is also a kind of engine...so you couldn't put a Hemi inside a short block V-8 (but you could put a Hemi into a Challenger, Charger, Barracuda, Roadrunner etc), but as a "car chick" I loved the attempt none the less!

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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/11/2009 9:11:39 AM   
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On a side note, loved the "short block V-8 Hemi" line :)

Granted, it doesn't make sense (Hemi refers to a specific kind of engine..one made by Chrysler with a hemispherical combustion chamber) and a short block v-8 is also a kind of engine...so you couldn't put a Hemi inside a short block V-8 (but you could put a Hemi into a Challenger, Charger, Barracuda, Roadrunner etc), but as a "car chick" I loved the attempt none the less!



Thank you.     But I did not understand most of what you said there...  the "hemispherical combustion chamber" you describe sounds so much like a salon hair dryer...I just got a picture of a woman sitting in the chair with a magazine in her lap, pointing to the dryer saying "Yea, it's got a hemi..."


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RE: Engaging the 'girly' side - 9/11/2009 9:19:37 AM   
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"hemispherical combustion chamber"

I thought those were for conducting experiments on the nature of black holes, matter and antimatter, and stuff?

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