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pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 9:41:08 AM   
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Is there such a thing as a pro sub? I cant really see a domme paying for a sub???
on the other hand, I can't see a female sub allowing herself being so vulnerable ???
this doesn't seem marketable either.

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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 10:32:18 AM   
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Yes, there are pro-subs. Most are prostitutes who specialize in lucrative "kink" play. Some are lifestyle submissives who are able to successfully charge for temporary Domination.

As ever, men are willing to pay for what women have to offer.

Not so much the other way around.

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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 12:07:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Yes, there are pro-subs. Most are prostitutes who specialize in lucrative "kink" play. Some are lifestyle submissives who are able to successfully charge for temporary Domination.

As ever, men are willing to pay for what women have to offer.

Not so much the other way around.


That's too generalized, almost stereotyping. 

The dungeon I work out of has a strict no sex policy with the clientele.   The commercially zoned dungeons I know of (and the pro submissives I know) forbid any penetration by a male.  Of course I'm sure there are many escorts might indulge their clients' kinks & fetishes.  But to say most are, is inaccurate.




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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 12:16:46 PM   
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They're not common but not unheard of. I've seen a few who advertise their services here and other places.

Being that women frankly, don't have to pay for men's services and can be quite picky if they want to, many men will pay for the services of a woman.

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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 12:18:27 PM   
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I know have meet several pro submissives and they were in high demand and far from prositutes. Infact they had a no intercourse policy.

Edited to add: I recently meet a my first pro dom

So as long as there is a demand for the service (regardless of which side they kneel) there will be pros.

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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 1:45:14 PM   
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Is there such a thing as a pro sub? I cant really see a domme paying for a sub???
on the other hand, I can't see a female sub allowing herself being so vulnerable ???
this doesn't seem marketable either.

thoughts?



So you are assuming that only females are or can be pro subs?


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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 1:54:50 PM   
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Is there such a thing as a pro sub? I cant really see a domme paying for a sub???
on the other hand, I can't see a female sub allowing herself being so vulnerable ???
this doesn't seem marketable either.

thoughts?


What is it about money changing hands that creates concern?
Female subs are loaned out and exchanged for other benefits as well as being pimped out for money.


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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 3:50:05 PM   
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I could have gone pro....but I blew out my knee in college

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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 3:52:33 PM   
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Is that all that got blew?

You know DG would have said that, had he been here.


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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 3:55:00 PM   
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I could have gone pro....but I blew out my knee in college


And we all know, a pro sub who doesnt kneel will never be anything but second string


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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 3:56:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UrbanSpider

Is there such a thing as a pro sub? I cant really see a domme paying for a sub???
on the other hand, I can't see a female sub allowing herself being so vulnerable ???
this doesn't seem marketable either.

thoughts?


There are pro subs, same as there are pro doms. They come in both genders, and both sexualities. They may not be as widespread as pro doms, or as well advertised but they do definately exist.


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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 3:57:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

I could have gone pro....but I blew out my knee in college

I blew my brains at Uni...


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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 4:28:16 PM   
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I suppose using the word "prostitute" inflames a few sensibilities; I don't make it a perjorative, but I see it as part of a hierarchy of marketplace service providers:

Those who are bon into money look down on those who work for money;
Those who work for money look down onthose who trade their beliefs for money;
Those who trade their beliefs for money look down on those who marry for money;
Those who marry for money look down upon those who dance naked for money;
Those who dance naked for money look down on those who perform kink without penetration;
Those who perform kink without penetration look down on those who perform kink with penetration but only in movies;
Those who perform kink with penetration but only in movies look down on those who perform kink with penetration in private;
Those who perform kink with penetration in private look down on those who have vanilla sex for money;
Those who have vanilla sex for money look down on those who stroll the streets for clients

Porn actors have a very detailed hierarchy of status, based on which sex acts for how much money;
Those who do soft core look down upon those who do hard core;

Those who do hard core have the following scale of moral acceptability, from tastefully erotic to the utter depths of depravity:
Oral- conventional;
oral- same sex
vaginal- conventional
anal- conventional
facials/ swallowing
vaginal- fisting, objects
anal- fisting, objects
rough oral/ anal
cum swapping
bukakke
group/ gang bangs
piss play
shit eating
sex with dogs
sex with Republicans


And of course, overlaying all of this, those who do anything for a lot of money look down on those who do anything for very little money;


Pick your limit line.


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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 4:36:00 PM   
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It is a bit more unusual to see a male pro sub unless he is catering to gay clients.  I am sure SF must have a few, I do know they have pro female subs, and dominants.  And there is a difference between prostitute and pro sub. 

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ORIGINAL: UrbanSpider

Is there such a thing as a pro sub? I cant really see a domme paying for a sub???
on the other hand, I can't see a female sub allowing herself being so vulnerable ???
this doesn't seem marketable either.

thoughts?



So you are assuming that only females are or can be pro subs?



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RE: pro submissive ??? - 9/5/2009 7:20:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UrbanSpider

Is there such a thing as a pro sub? I cant really see a domme paying for a sub???
on the other hand, I can't see a female sub allowing herself being so vulnerable ???
this doesn't seem marketable either.

thoughts?



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