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Sunnyfey -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 1:35:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

Wow.... I leave for a couple of hours and come back to find 4 pages ..... but its not looking good. I think I may well abandon this thread and go and join the other one thats just started.

Noo! Come back! We need more naked avatars! [:D]



Naked with mohawks......*purrrs*




Eigenaar -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 1:45:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

Or you should get rid of yours. It is also discriminatory besides incongruence but also hypocrisy. I looked into several dictionaries and some name incongruity describing hypocrisy.

Really? Show me.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrisy

Nope, not there. Not even listed under synonyms:

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/hypocrisy

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrisy

Hmm. Not there either. Weird.

http://www.wordwebonline.com/search.pl?w=hypocrisy

Or there.

What universe's dictionaries were you referencing again?

I am not going to explain myself to a brat making fun of people asking me in broken English in what universes I reside. You would have had your answer if you at least had addressed me showing the slightest respect.
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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

...you just keeping calling people hypocrites or saying their points are illogical. You have yet to state WHY the points are illogical. So you have yet to debate anything.

I really would not know how to state why certain points are illogical when you deny your own words. I am not a genius.




Elisabella -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 1:48:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

Iam not going to explain myself to a brat making fun of people asking me in broken English in what universes I reside. You would have had your answer if you at least had addresses me showing the slightest respect.





Now that...THAT is hypocrisy.

Or at the very least, irony.




Eigenaar -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 1:52:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar


Iam not going to explain myself to a brat making fun of people asking me in broken English in what universes I reside. You would have had your answer if you at least had addresses me showing the slightest respect.

I edited it right away, young lady. And it is not hypocrite to call people trolls when you don't understand them?

Now that...THAT is hypocrisy.

Or at the very least, irony.




NihilusZero -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 1:56:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

I am not going to explain myself to a brat making fun of people asking me in broken English in what universes I reside. You would have had your answer if you at least had addressed me showing the slightest respect.

I was just trying to ruffle your feathers a bit so the sex would be more steamy.

Are you saying you're turning me down?!

[sm=frown.gif]




Elisabella -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 1:56:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar


Iam not going to explain myself to a brat making fun of people asking me in broken English in what universes I reside. You would have had your answer if you at least had addresses me showing the slightest respect.

I edited it right away, young lady. And it is not hypocrite to call people trolls when you don't understand them?

Now that...THAT is hypocrisy.

Or at the very least, irony.



No it is not "hypocrite" (sic) to call people trolls when you don't understand them. If anything, it is presumptuous, but that's not why I'm calling you a troll. I'm calling you a troll because your logic boils down to "it is hypocritical to be attracted to men who flirt with women, but not men who flirt with men, because it is hypocritical."

And if you want to get into broken English, "hypocrite" is a noun. "Hypocritical" is an adjective. And neither mean what you seem to think they mean.

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

It is not comparable because you say your dominant partner is allowed to flirt with women but not with men because the latter would endanger your marriage. This is hypocrite. You then tell me it is not hypocrite like it would not be hypocrite to have eating from a dog bowl as a hard limit.




Sunnyfey -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 1:57:08 PM)


ORIGINAL: Eigenaar I really would not know how to state why certain points are illogical when you deny your own words. I am not a genius.

I have YET to deny my own words at all in this thread. But I have cleared up your perception of what I wrote.

Again, you have yet to make a logical debate about anything posted here.
You have only come back with false accusations.




DemonKia -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 2:18:01 PM)

Okay. lol, after bemused read thru

Sublace, I count on the other person to tell me what they are. I try to avoid going around & deciding other people's sexual orientation on my own . . . . .

Sunnyfey, I think the effeminate thing is a result of what I think of as 'inappropriate correlation thinking' . . . . Humans tend to conflate 'strong correlatives' & 'weak correlatives' . . . . . Much of what we're talking about in these two threads is stuff that does have some weak correlation -- effeminancy can be weakly correlated to bisexuality which can be weakly correlated to polyamory & so on & so forth. But. For many people, these things are perceived as strong correlations.

Everyone, a primer:

Bisexuality & poly-vs-monogamous are separate, distinct, & independent orientations. I'll bet ya hard cash that there are plenty of monogamous bisexuals out there, just like there's plenty of poly straight people . . . . .

Bisexuals are no more or less sexual than the heteros. Nor do they 'need' both a man & a woman, anymore than a hetero 'needs' someone of the opposite sex.

Mostly, being bi means that the person is capable of being attracted to both sexes . . . ..

Eigenar:

Your debate style lacks substance & content & is unimpressive, so zip interest here in impressing you, please note.

Plus, given the parameters outlined in your profile, yeah, you know all about discriminating sexual tastes, dontcha? I think that I see you lashing out at as a reflection of frustration with your own sexually discrimantory tastes & how that's worked out for you here on CM.

Some advice. You need to get positive, & give up the negativity. Focus on what makes you happy rather than what angers you. You grow what you put your energy into.




Eigenaar -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 2:23:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia


Eigenar:

Your debate style lacks substance & content & is unimpressive, so zip interest here in impressing you, please note.


Let's shake hands! You don't want me to analyse your profile in public I am sure.




Acer49 -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 2:26:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

This is really a question for sub/slave females, though the thread is obviously open to all.


How would you feel about your Dominant/Master being bi ?

Would you not get involved if you read that he was bi on his profile?

Would it make a difference to your relationship if you were suddenly told he was bi?

Are there any females that ended a relationship after finding there partner was bi?




If a woman comes to a man and said “I want a dominant” and then rejects the man based on their sexual preference then they would be considered judgmental, illogical and a hypocrite because one’s sexuality has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to dominate.
However this is not what is meant when a woman asks, because what she is asking for is a man who is a dominant and as such is allowed to consider all aspects of the dominant's personality which includes their sexuality.

Let us be brutally honest. Women and men both put a lot of important on their sexual desirability, as it is directly tied to the feelings of self-esteem and self worth. The thought that the spot between their respective legs is not the “best thing since sliced bread” and can be easily replaced by another, much less by one who is of the same sex is not a feeling most would want to consider.

Now, to the women who said that they could not deal with a bi sexual dominant, if you were asked again, the same question however, included would be the statement that although bi, the dominant would not act upon those bi feelings, would you still reject them




Eigenaar -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 2:42:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey


ORIGINAL: Eigenaar I really would not know how to state why certain points are illogical when you deny your own words. I am not a genius.

I have YET to deny my own words at all in this thread. But I have cleared up your perception of what I wrote.

Again, you have yet to make a logical debate about anything posted here.
You have only come back with false accusations.

I am a reasonable person. What is not logical according to you? What is not logical to me is that you in one post claim Elisabella is not picking on bisexuals/gay people and when I ask why you give me this information when I said nothing about this you deny having posted this. Is this debating to you? When I am not told what is not understood I can not tell you what I meant by saying something.




Sunnyfey -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 2:58:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey


ORIGINAL: Eigenaar I really would not know how to state why certain points are illogical when you deny your own words. I am not a genius.

I have YET to deny my own words at all in this thread. But I have cleared up your perception of what I wrote.

Again, you have yet to make a logical debate about anything posted here.
You have only come back with false accusations.

I am a reasonable person. What is not logical according to you? What is not logical to me is that you in one post claim Elisabella is not picking on bisexuals/gay people and when I ask why you give me this information when I said nothing about this you deny having posted this. Is this debating to you? When I am not told what is not understood I can not tell you what I meant by saying something.


Re read my post, I never accused anyone of picking on gay or bi-sexual people

I accused YOU of picking on HER.

Therefore, all of your arguments in reference to ME on this topic are false and illogical because you misread what I posted in the first place.




DemonKia -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 3:28:08 PM)

Actually, that sounds potentially entertaining . . . . . Especially as I'm capable of keeping in mind your obvious reading & comprehension difficulties, as evidenced by how you've behaved in this thread . . . . . I'm sure I'll learn tons about you in whatever you project into your analysis of my profile . . . .

& *snicker* I'm an attention whore .. . . . . & getting people perving my profile is bad how?

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

You don't want me to analyse your profile in public I am sure.





krosiema -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 3:41:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

I am not going to explain myself to a brat making fun of people asking me in broken English in what universes I reside. You would have had your answer if you at least had addressed me showing the slightest respect.


What broken English? As a native English speaker, I found the colloquial style of English quite straightforward and easily understandable. The only thing I've gotten so far from you is that you are "not going to explain yourself," using whatever left-field logic you can come up with. Maybe you're just coming off the wrong way because you lack facility with the English language and cannot grasp the nuances, but it seems like you just launch personal attacks against people (and so I am returning in kind). That's fine. Just don't expect us to agree with you if you refuse to explain yourself. (Or only explain with trite tautology: "I was logical.")




kiwisub12 -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 4:29:46 PM)

Heck yes, i would "take on" a bi Master. Why not?  And if he wanted a male sub as well, I would hope that i could watch and maybe participate. As for male-on-male sex   -  never seen it, but since i choose my partners for personality rather than sexual prowess, i doubt it would squick me out. In fact, if affection and/or love is involved, I rather think i would think it beautiful.

Of course, i would hope that i would find the "other" sub sexy.

I have never thought of myself in this light before, but i guess i am not monogomous. As long as i had some say in the process, i would be ok with a poly household  -  and would probably get on better with a male sub than a female sub.    Go figure.[:)]




Eigenaar -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 4:35:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: krosiema


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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

I am not going to explain myself to a brat making fun of people asking me in broken English in what universes I reside. You would have had your answer if you at least had addressed me showing the slightest respect.


What broken English? As a native English speaker, I found the colloquial style of English quite straightforward and easily understandable. The only thing I've gotten so far from you is that you are "not going to explain yourself," using whatever left-field logic you can come up with. Maybe you're just coming off the wrong way because you lack facility with the English language and cannot grasp the nuances, but it seems like you just launch personal attacks against people (and so I am returning in kind). That's fine. Just don't expect us to agree with you if you refuse to explain yourself. (Or only explain with trite tautology: "I was logical.")
I would like to remind you of our correspondence only a few days ago in which you were very open and revealed events from your past most people would not entrust a complete stranger with. You all of a sudden stopped responding without a word and now you attack me and accuse me of left-field logic and lacking facility with the English language and not grasping the nuances whereas the English language is partly based upon Dutch as a result of the Dutch occupying what is now the UK several times and without mentioning your ''friend'' being derogatory without reason. I can assure you I get most if not more nuances the average native English speaker gets and that the discussed style of English is not always colloqial. Are you saying I am a genius not having had to look at NihilusZero his profile to get he is not a native English speaker? Please explain ''left-field logic'' in regard to my postings as well as your sudden attack and the assumption I do not crasp the nuances of the English language I spoke before you were born and don't forget were this desire to lynch is based upon.




Sunnyfey -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 4:42:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar
Are you saying I am a genius not having had to look at NihilusZero his profile to get he is not a native English speaker?


where does it state ANYWHERE on NihilusZero's profile, that English is not his native language?

NihilusZero is Hispanic. That has absolutely nothing to do with what language he speaks.




Eigenaar -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 4:43:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey


ORIGINAL: Eigenaar I really would not know how to state why certain points are illogical when you deny your own words. I am not a genius.

I have YET to deny my own words at all in this thread. But I have cleared up your perception of what I wrote.

Again, you have yet to make a logical debate about anything posted here.
You have only come back with false accusations.

I am a reasonable person. What is not logical according to you? What is not logical to me is that you in one post claim Elisabella is not picking on bisexuals/gay people and when I ask why you give me this information when I said nothing about this you deny having posted this. Is this debating to you? When I am not told what is not understood I can not tell you what I meant by saying something.


Re read my post, I never accused anyone of picking on gay or bi-sexual people

I accused YOU of picking on HER.

Therefore, all of your arguments in reference to ME on this topic are false and illogical because you misread what I posted in the first place.
You better ''re read'' my post. Where do I claim you accuse anyone of picking on gay or bi-sexual people? And where do I pick on HER? And where did I misread YOU?




Eigenaar -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 4:46:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar
Are you saying I am a genius not having had to look at NihilusZero his profile to get he is not a native English speaker?


where does it state ANYWHERE on NihilusZero's profile, that English is not his native language?

NihilusZero is Hispanic. That has absolutely nothing to do with what language he speaks.

I don't understand what you are getting at. Where does it state I do not understand English?




krosiema -> RE: Would you take on a bi Master/Dom? (9/15/2009 4:46:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

I would like to remind you of our correspondence only a few days ago in which you were very open and revealed events from your past most people would not entrust a complete stranger with. You all of a sudden stopped responding without a word and now you attack me and accuse me of left-field logic and lacking facility with the English language and not grasping the nuances whereas the English language is partly based upon Dutch as a result of the Dutch occupying what is now the UK several times and without mentioning your ''friend'' being derogatory without reason. I can assure you I get most if not more nuances the average native English speaker gets and that the discussed style of English is not always colloqial. Are you saying I am a genius not having had to look at NihilusZero his profile to get he is not a native English speaker? Please explain ''left-field logic'' in regard to my postings as well as your sudden attack and the assumption I do not crasp the nuances of the English language I spoke before you were born and don't forget were this desire to lynch is based upon.


1.) This is exactly what I mean by a personal attack. Yes, I'm very open, because that's the kind of person I am. Sorry, but you're not special. And yes, I stopped answering your mail. Because you became way too pushy and interrogating, instead of having a two way conversation where you share a bit of yourself and I share a bit of myself. I have lots of mail to answer, if I commit myself to answering every single one of them, so I pick and choose the ones I find most interesting and comfortable with answering.

2.) There is something called 'dry sarcasm.' The fact that you are way too sensitive to it speaks for itself.

3.) I don't know which "friend" you are talking about. Honestly.

4.) One example of left-field logic: That because English is based on Dutch and you speak Dutch that you probably get more English nuances than most native speakers. Um, sorry, but no, that logic does not hold. English is also based on Latin. Does that mean a Latin speaker (from the past) who learned English (after being teleported to the present) would speak English better than native English speakers? Furthermore, your last sentence there didn't make any sense at all, after I read through it three times. (I'm not even going to point out the misspellings, since I'm sure I have some of my own in this post.)

Look just accept that you have deep-seated insecurities or that you just like trolling. It's okay; I troll forum boards, too. (Though, not CM, since many people here are too sensitive for my would-be troll-posts.)

Chillax and peace out, kk? :)




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