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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/15/2009 3:59:14 PM

RavenMuse

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How?... get real! that's how. Build a relationship FIRST before anyone relocates anywhere, that involves visits. When I was seeking something other than I am now then I did accept the inconveniences of an LDR with a view of eventual relocation a couple of years down the road..... if it didn't have the staying power to overcome those obstacles then it didn't have the staying power for it to be worth anyone relocating. That isn't online bullshit, that is face to face time, being part of each others lives, the Dynamic being there day to day whether I person or apart, the trust being built. When the time came I'd have been right there helping her move down, yes, including financialy.

Now I am in a different situation... Not local? not happening!

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/15/2009 5:00:03 PM

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I am a bit unsure of why anyone would want a slave sight unseen. I mean, what if they cooked like crap? Or if they were messy and were perfectly fine if roaches wanted to live in the house? What if they were mouthy and rude? Why would you even consider having someone become your slave if you knew nothing about them, let alone consider paying for their travel?
You can hire help locally and there is probably a lot less involved than adding someone that is may become a burden for you.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/15/2009 5:00:45 PM

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/15/2009 5:19:10 PM

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I suggest you find a slave, get to know them over a period of time, before anyone makes any kind of commitment. You can then guage their sincerity better.

As others have stated, you could help with the relocation in person.

When I relocated to be with MasterK, I paid all the expenses involved.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/15/2009 5:56:06 PM

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Eeerr...call me crazy but meet them in person..continuously? Ya know...date? Go out, get to know each other?...in person? Before relocating?

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/15/2009 6:07:37 PM

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It would appear that, according to his profile, the OP isn't looking for an opportunity to date or such...

"Not looking for love or a wife.
Just command and control, and someone with few limits."

This could explain the "shopping at SlaveMart" mentality.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/15/2009 6:17:42 PM

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quote:

is there someway to relocate someone without getting taken? Jay

1) Exercise better judgment.
2) Get to know the girls first.
3) Exercise better judgment.
4) Don't be so desperate--be discriminating.
5) Exercise better judgment.
6) Take time to let things develop.
7) Exercise better judgment.
8) Send a plane ticket, not money.
9) Exercise better judgment.

You might also want to take a look at your judgment.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/15/2009 6:45:06 PM

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Develop a relationship first, if they are that interested in commiting themselves, they can get to you some how on their own two feet if needed.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 12:28:52 AM

Malkinius

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Greetings all....

The quickest way to get rid of a scammer is to say you will be in their area in some short fixed time at least two weeks away and want to meet for coffee or lunch. Almost all will run at the first mention of you going to them. The second way is to actually show up for the meeting if they agree to meet. If they don't agree or if they have continuing excuses for not meeting, drop them. These days you can change a plane ticket that someone else buys for you but you can not get the value of it in cash. The refund, if any, goes back to the original form of payment.

All that being said, I have relocated slaves to me at my expense and I have brought them to me for first visits. That has included flying them across the country. All of the ones I have done that with so far have been real people and have shown up for the move/flight. The moves were slaves I met and collared offline before the move so there was no question about how real they were.

Yes, I may have been fortunate so far but I do check as much as I can before first meetings. The slaves I have done this with so far have not been slaves I have met for the first time here on CM. There are other venues.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 7:11:23 AM

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Why would you pay to relocate someone you've never met?

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 7:37:06 AM

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Hehehe . . . . The OP changed his profile & eliminated that text . . . .

quote:

ORIGINAL: CarrieO

It would appear that, according to his profile, the OP isn't looking for an opportunity to date or such...

"Not looking for love or a wife.
Just command and control, and someone with few limits."

This could explain the "shopping at SlaveMart" mentality.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 9:36:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: JaynJax

I have over the year found several slaves that want me to relocate them, however they need money to
make the trip. I know just as sure as I know my name...if I send money, I will not see them or the money.
Some are probably men posing as women to get money out of unsuspecting men. I'm very careful, and
because of that....these so called slaves say..."your just playing with me, and not sincere." So my question
is...is there someway to relocate someone without getting taken? Jay

Tell them that you will reimburse them when you see them.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 9:43:29 AM

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Or you could just punch her dead in the goddam face and drag her by the hair to your place of debauchery.

(It could work)

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 9:48:17 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Or you could just punch her dead in the goddam face and drag her by the hair to your place of debauchery.

(It could work)

Ron

wow ron, you certainly know how to get a girls attention

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 10:07:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: windchymes

I guess I have the wrong approach. If I choose to travel to "check out" a potential Dom/partner, I prefer to handle my own finances, and always have.

Dito, I also funded my trips to potential Doms myself and also prefer to handle my own financial afairs. Being Sub doesn't mean being "in the need" of being looked after or being unable to manage my own life. My current involvement would pay parts of my trips to meet him in the future, but that's because he moved damn far away now for the next while as he took on a good job offer and he knows that I have some limitations financially as a student in expensive England and he earns very well. However, IF we continue the road we are going now since almost a year and get together properly, then I would pay my relocation to him entirely on my own.

After being now on CM since almost two years I made the conclusion for me by now that either it works out with him (as he would be perfect for me personality wise) or I will look again once I moved on my own to New Zealand. I am personally simply tired of certain online mind-games and have no interest of the risk of potential more crap coming out of here. So either my current involvement and I work out or not, but I don't do any dating oversea anymore apart from my current involvement.

Also last but not least I would not be interested to relocate a person who needs my money to do so because it does help if the person is able to manage herself e.g. when difficult times might arise. Whilst independent relocation might not be an indication about the personality from one person for some people, for me it is.

Because if the person does not manage it him-/herself to get the money together for the flight, how well will the person do if I would ever be dependent on him or her e.g. during ill health. For me it simply indicates a level of independence and the ability of using initiative for something a person really wants to do and if that independence or initiative is not there to get the money together...well, how much interest does this person then really have for that lifestyle and to get to me?!

Also regarding sunnyfeys statement

quote:

either way he would not have lost money, besides a service fee for refunding a ticket.

I was once involved with a guy and we had agreed to meet...however after three weeks, just before the meeting would have been due he changed his mind and I lost 150 dollar cancellation fee....whilst this might not be much money for some people, I was pissed off about it but at least on the other hand he did proof straight away, that he is not worth my service. He cancelled as he had changed his mind and decided to go ahead with someone else...well, that one did not work out at the end and he tried to meet again, offering that he comes over this time as I said that I won't waste any penny for him anymore...but thinking about it later and considering even worse factors such as that he tried to justify his actions with trying to blame me for no fucking reason and of course couldn't be bothered to apologise on top of it, I decided nope, not going to happen to waste any more time with him...I declined...it simply did show to me that he was not trustworthy and I would not feel safe to be under his power when I would meet him. He had his chance and he blew it, it was his decision to blew it (and my luck!)

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 9:42:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Why would you pay to relocate someone you've never met?

This sums up my attitude entirely. Actually, it goes a little further. Why would you be willing to have someone move into your home whom you've never even met. Sub, slave, girlfriend, roommate, border, whatever - moving in with someone is stressful and there's often a long adjustment period. Even leaving aside the idea of being scammed, I am not willing to invite someone to live in my home whom I haven't gotten to know well enough to trust. The one time I did relocate someone across the country, we had spoken online for months, on the phone for months and I had visited them twice. At that point we were basically having a long distance relationship and moving in together was the next logical step.

My advice would be to step back for a minute and think things through.

Meeting a young, hot, eager submissive online and having them submit to you and move in immediately resulting in wild unending BDSM bliss is the stuff of erotic fantasy - in real life the odds are against it. Anything that seems too good to be true likely is.

If I find someone I think I'm compatible with and it looks like we're going to hit it off, I will travel to meet them. Or have them travel to meet me and reimburse them. We'll work something out. Relocation for a 24/7 TPE relationship isn't something that's going to happen until a level of trust and comfort is established.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 9:59:59 PM

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I've got to ask - why would you want to move someone in with you without meeting them in person first? Perhaps take the first trip yourself - check out their lifestyle and spend some time with them in their home. If their home is a total mess and in shambles, perhaps they have some issues. Can they behave well in real life for more than a couple of days?

I'd never welcome someone into my home as a slave without spending significant time with them in person first.

If, at that point, a slave has no way to afford the move on their own but is sincere, and you are sure they're a good match, perhaps rent a U-Haul and go get them and their things. I've helped *friends* move before. If you can help friends, you can certainly help a potential life-mate.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 10:41:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Or you could just punch her dead in the goddam face and drag her by the hair to your place of debauchery.

(It could work)

Ron

Strewth mate, why risk damaging you knuckles (unless you are a peanut eating, knuckle dragging quadrupled). What I ask is wrong with a shillelagh (Irish: sail éille, a cudgel with a strap. Traditionally made from blackthorn (sloe) wood (Prunus spinosa) or oak.)? A gentle tap behind the ear lug and you can drag her of to your place of what-ever.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/16/2009 11:02:57 PM

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You forgot to mention, Exercise better judgment.

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RE: How do you relocate a slave and not loose your money? - 9/17/2009 12:59:43 AM

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Greetings OsideGirl...

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Why would you pay to relocate someone you've never met?

It is because I have been involved in a few rescues and I can transport someone further, faster and cheaper than most. I was almost always working with someone else at the time and I had been in direct contact as well. I have often known and talked to the person before when one of those situations happen. I have been involved in two from the same man, only one intentional on my part. Lets just say an odd story there.

Be well....

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