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So You Think You're A Slave - 9/28/2009 9:29:42 PM   
ALCouple09


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So You Think You're A Slave

I've had it. I've looked on the site, I've had some "slaves" contact my Master. I'll admit, there are some true slaves out there. To those that might come across this, it isn't directed at you. The ones it IS directed at will be made obvious in a moment. The ones I'm speaking of are slaves that are : bratty, pushy, bitchy, "dominant", princesses and kids playing in an adult world.

If you are the type that needs to be pampered and can't be punished yet thinks you're still a slave - YOU AREN'T!

If you're the type that can't stand when your MASTER/MISTRESS wants to look at other subs/slaves for Their own pleasure and get jealous - YOU AREN'T!

If you're the one that always has to have your Owner's attention because you're that insecure - GUESS WHAT!!!!! YOU AREN'T A SLAVE!!!!

If your Owner wants to go poly without telling you why, it's Their perogative. THEY are the Master/Mistress. You gave control to THEM! Stop playing the little whiny bitch! A whiny, bitchy slave IS NOT A SLAVE!

If you're the type that's "new to the lifestyle" but runs when a Master flat out tells you He has another slave that is Alpha and that if you disobey you'll be punished - you're NOT a SLAVE, you're NOT a sub, just get out of the lifestyle and find someone for the kinky sex you're looking for. Kids don't need to try the lifestyle when they aren't committed!

If you think that the lifestyle is just about kinky sex and bondage when YOU want it - YOU AREN'T A SLAVE!

On the other hand, for those other slaves out there that have willing given their submission to their respective Owners, kudos to you! I'm happy for those of you that have found your place kneeling before your Owner. I love my Master. I couldn't be happier with Him. I am honored to wear His collar and be His every day. I do not beg for mercy when I have misbehaved or broke a rule out of thoughtlessness. Instead, I take my beating with the grace that only comes from a TRUE SLAVE and I thank Him afterwards for loving and caring enough for me to correct me. I know there are other slaves out there that do the same for their Owners. Those are the ones that I would honor at this moment. You are truly the cream of the crop when it comes to submission and your submission to your Owner is a true gift.

Then there are those that whine and cry and beg for mercy and......here's one I can't understand when the submission is REAL and the TRUST is there......SAFEWORD the minute the punishment starts. Guess what, to those of you in this category!!! YOU AREN'T A SLAVE!!!!
But worst of all, there are some in the lifestyle that willingly agree to submit but when are punished they call it ABUSE! Do your Dom/me a favor. Just get out of the lifestyle altogether and go find some nice, safe, vanilla guy or girl you can walk all over. Just.....GO!

I apologize to those that I might have offended, but the truth hurts. I'm sick and tired of the wannabes, the fakes, the kids, the princesses, the players, the scammers, the bitches and the whiners. I'm tired of those types cluttering up what should be a site for unowned slaves to find a home and for poly homes to find a brother or sister to join them.

And for those that fall under the true slave category, if you agree with me, please let me know. My Master has named me Jewel because He knows that the submission I give Him is a gift. He has pushed me past what once were HARD LIMITS with me. I have found such a freedom and joy in submitting to Him. The happiest day of my life other than when my children were born was the day my Master made me His wife to have legal paperwork on me. Every other slave my Master has owned, He has made sign a contract. He didn't have me sign one because He never plans to release me. And even if He were to release me, I would still be waiting on my knees for Him for I am always and forever His.

And for any prospective sisters out there that are reading this, if you aren't prepared to give Him the same level of submission and trust that I am, don't bother Him. Please don't waste His time or mine. I know that He deserves only the best. I submitted to Him while pregnant and I trust Him with my life and the life of my unborn as well as my other children. I know He won't betray that trust. He is too good a Master for that. I just hope and pray all the other TRUE slaves have found Owners that they can trust just as much and are just as happy with.
Thank you for Y/your time and good day,
slave jewel

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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/28/2009 10:04:16 PM   
WyldHrt


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Status: offline 		Wow, how incredibly.... one twue way. 

Believe it or not, this site is not just for slaves looking for a home, or poly families looking to find a third. There's a whole bunch of us here who are not slaves: subs, switches, Doms, Dommes, Masters, Mistresses, Goddesses, ponies, pets, Daddies, little girls, Mommys, little boys- hell, we got all 32 flavours in this ice cream parlor! There are also quite a few of us on BOTH sides of the kneel who are not poly, and have zero interest in such a relationship. I happen to be one of them. Shockingly, there are also some folks here who do not include punishment in their dynamic. I'm not one of them, but it sure seems to work for those who choose that path.

Judging others by your own standards is fine- as it relates to your own relationships. Coming here and whining about all the "fakes" (defined as anyone who IDs as "slave" but doesn't fit your criteria of a "TWUE slave"), just makes you look judgmental and intolerant of the choices made by others. Incidentally, many folks here tend to search the boards when approached on the other side, to see if the person writing to them has posted here, and what they have posted. The above really isn't going to help you in your search.... I mean really isn't going to help.

All that said, you have been here all of 8 days and are looking for a unicorn (a female sub willing to join an established couple in a poly relationship. They are called unicorns for a reason). If this is an example of your patience while searching, maybe I shouldn't tell you that finding a third can take, quite literally, years. Go and read some of the threads in the poly forum about finding a third. They should be quite an eye opener for you.

ETA- Perved your profile, and am not surprised that you aren't having much luck. It may help if you fill it in with more personal information about the two of you, your relationship, what you are seeking in a third, and what you have to offer. Vanilla interests are always good, so a prospective sub can see if there is a basis for conversation. Like it or not, your profile is an advertisement for who you are, and what you seek. A shortish paragraph and a sentence won't attract the kind of person you are looking for.


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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/28/2009 10:15:18 PM   
ALCouple09


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Status: offline 		I appreciate your opinion. I opened myself to all opinions gladly for W/we are all entitled to them. I am happy for those that my opinion didn't touch on that are happy in T/their role in BDSM such as yourself. But please don't judge people by the age of their current profile. This isn't my first time on this site, nor is it my Master's first time. He created this profile a few days ago, yes, but He has been on this site for over a year and I've been on it for over 4 years and only rarely did either of U/us find anyone that was true. And this is after face to face meetings and money being spent to bring the others to U/us. But thank you for your insightful opinion. I just got more than a little frustrated about little kids contacting my Master then running away when He states His rules that are easily understood and obeyed. As I'm sure a switch as yourself might understand, those that pretend to be into the lifestyle then run without even a simple, "It's not for me" can be more than a little frustrating. So if I came off a bitchy and opinionated, I DO apologize. But please also understand that lately I'm getting more and more frustrated by the fakes and scammers and wannabes. And when you mix that with a bit of pregnancy hormones, you get a rant once in a while. But I do apologize if I offended you but as I said earlier, we are A/all entitled to O/our opinions.

slave jewel

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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/28/2009 10:21:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		All I can say is that just because these are your expectations of what a slave or submissive role is and should be that doesn't mean that is how everyone else sees it. Frustration can be a bitch and maybe you just needed to rant however, maybe you should take the stance that it's not a good fit and at least you figured it out before it was too late.

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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/28/2009 10:24:13 PM   
ALCouple09


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Status: offline 		That is very good advice and I'll do my best to keep it in mind the next time I start getting frustrated by those that waste my Master's time and mine. Thank you for a lovely and insightful opinion as well as good advice not just to myself but to others with the same frustration as well.

slave jewel

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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/28/2009 11:24:36 PM   
WyldHrt


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Status: offline 		Nicely done. Responding to constructive criticism without anger is just awesome in my book!
I rather expected that one or both of you had other profiles, but folks here will see the age on the new one and make comments, so now that's out of the way

I understand your frustration, having very good friends (with a UM on board) who were seeking a third until very recently. Their "unicorn" fell into their collective lap offline, but they had been seeking for quite awhile, and went through much of what you are going through now. My best advice (other than to fill out your profile more and be clear about what you are seeking) is to seek offline as well as on, and to post on the boards more often. Not only is the ratio of those who are "serious" higher on the boards, but you can check folks out by what they have to say in the various threads. That said, friends often have friends....

As an aside, I'm not a switch *spots a Dommely hair sprouting and snips it off*, but an inveterate smartass of a sub (not to be confused with a SAM). Fortunately for me, some Doms, one in particular, like that sort of thing


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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/29/2009 12:44:36 PM   
porcelaine


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Status: offline 		with all due respect, i'm assuming this was posted with the Master's permission. but there's such angst and frustration, which is understandable given what you've experienced. though i wonder if consideration was given to the fact that the very words uttered by a slave with such tenacity and anger would be opposite of what one might expect from someone in that role.

it would seem that she would carry herself with effortless grace and remain poised even when she's simmering inside or threatens to erupt. words spewed in anger demeaning the very behavior that the author is exhibiting leaves me to wonder if she possesses the self-control she expects others to have.

while i realize that this was posted under the auspices of fictional writing. it has always been my understanding that regardless of where one is located and the circumstances involved, she is a reflection of Him. if this piece provides insight into the emotional state of the parties involved, it brings questions to mind that refute the true slave undertones that were shown throughout the piece.

when dominance is understood rather than implied, she carries herself in a manner that others may be unable to pinpoint, but clearly recognize as sanctified, unusually different, but remarkably beautiful. perhaps in the midst of all that has occurred the defining elements of slavery have been lost or forgotten. for the words never speak as loudly as ones actions will.

porcelaine


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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/29/2009 5:13:19 PM   
ALCouple09


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Status: offline 		Well, I do appreciate the kind words from WyldHurt and would love to become friends. *hint hint*  

And I also understand where you're coming from, porcelaine. I freely admit that I was having a rough night. And yes, this was posted with my Master's permission. This was more written at His direction rather than just with His permission. He wanted me to have a steam valve due to my pregnancy and everything else going on in and out of the lifestyle. He wants me to pick something atleast once a week that has bugged me and just let it out so that I don't get overwhelmed. Even the best slaves can get hormonal. But I can see where it seems that the tone of slavery may have been lost or forgotten. I try to maintain the grace and poise that are the earmarks of a slave but even for the best, it isn't always possible. And I am FAR from the best. Even though we may be slaves, we have our faults. And I admit that I wasn't being exactly tolerant last night. But once my rant was over, I felt better. Normally, I have a sweet disposition and am easy to get along with. My Master will verify this. Lately, due to hormones and everything trying to go wrong outside of the lifestyle, my tolerance for things has dropped. But I know that happens to me during pregnancy. But this is me getting off on a tangent. I do see where you're coming from and I do appreciate any and all constructive criticisms.

slave jewel

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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/29/2009 5:59:06 PM   
porcelaine


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Status: offline 		of course those things aren't discernible from your words. it merely appears that one person is ranting about the same behavior they're exhibiting, but in your case it is excused due to physical complications. i wonder if you applied the same leniency to others that you've permitted for yourself? we all err and no one is perfect. it is not mine to criticize what your master has authorized. i merely suggested that without a notifying tag of sorts your words seemed hypocritical at the least, and delivered in a context most slaves might not elect to do. nonetheless i wish you well and hope your pregnancy proceeds smoothly.

porcelaine


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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/29/2009 6:03:01 PM   
ALCouple09


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Status: offline 		I do thank you for your kindness, porcelaine. I should have put a warning note up there. I admit that I erred there. And I do try to give everyone atleast the benefit of the doubt until I'm proven wrong. It's been to my downfall more often than most. I just can't stand how many scammers have flooded the site, all looking for money. Especially the ones from overseas or, as in the most recent case of one who contacted my Master, is about to go to Ghana to see her mother. The odd thing is, the other day her profile said she was 26. Now it says she's 30. I know she's still trying to get money out of my Master. Those are the types along with the kids that think they're into the lifestyle as well as the fakes and players that just set me off. I understand that everyone has bad days. I guess that I should have put up a warning that it was more of a bad day/pregnancy hormone rant rather than my day-to-day attitude. And I do appreciate you calling me out on it. You are completely in the right to do so.

slave jewel

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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/29/2009 6:08:25 PM   
Lockit


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Status: offline 		I guess I just can't offer much in the way of encouragment here becasue to vent like that with some of the outragous things you said... with the permission or any form of direction from your master... well would be something I would warn others about. See that... don't do that. lol

Aren't you glad some people are nicer than I am?

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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/29/2009 6:30:21 PM   
ALCouple09


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Status: offline 		Ma'am Lockit, I completely understand where You're coming from and appreciate Your opinion. As I've said previously, W/we are all entitled to O/our opinions. It is not required that W/we A/all agree. That's what makes this world so wonderful. As for warning others from doing as I did, that is entirely Your perogative and I respect it in all ways. I do wish You the best of days and the best of luck in finding what You seek.

slave jewel

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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/30/2009 1:19:14 AM   
WyldHrt


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Aren't you glad some people are nicer than I am?

Now, Lockit, don't make you spank me...
... hey, wait a minute


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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/30/2009 10:32:37 AM   
porcelaine


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ORIGINAL: ALCouple09

I just can't stand how many scammers have flooded the site, all looking for money. Especially the ones from overseas or, as in the most recent case of one who contacted my Master, is about to go to Ghana to see her mother. The odd thing is, the other day her profile said she was 26. Now it says she's 30. I know she's still trying to get money out of my Master.


the additional details have provided the framework for my comments. yours isn't the first nor will it be the last rant someone makes about the number of dishonest people on this site. what i wonder is what society you've all been living in, and where the bubble can be found. perhaps you're shocked because it reaches your screen and you're able to filter these things out in your day to day lives. why such pandemonium that can be easily dismissed warrants energy and frustration is a mystery. i sincerely wonder if some don't have enough real problems to dwell upon where virtual oddities become the focus of the free moments you've allocated to be here.

i'm sorry, i simply can't condone this behavior. it is in direct opposition to all the controls and standards i've come to understand and embrace. my conduct is never perfect, but providing excuses is far worse than ownership. perhaps you should look closer at the assignment to see a larger lesson that i'm glimpsing. it is because all those things are taking place and you continue to behave as a slave, that is what makes you a slave. it isn't a switch one turns on and off with whim. you don't dip a toe today and everything applies to you, but tomorrow it does not and you're still in the fold.

what is worse is that you hold yourself to a higher standard of thought and supposed behavior that you're not living up to. i don't know about you, but if i wrote something like that, an internal mechanism would have stopped me. something within would have said no. anger and venting are understandable, but to publish something like this that would give appearance that i am out of control and my Owner has no control over me would never ever take place. i would remain silent before i'd ever cast shame on the one i serve.

i cannot fathom how anything stated made either of you look better. if anything, it was merely one additional rant we see and forget. only in this case, yours was allowed and supported. i cannot say it was necessarily better. there is beauty in silence and restraint.

porcelaine


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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/30/2009 11:27:24 AM   
Lockit


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ORIGINAL: ALCouple09

Ma'am Lockit, I completely understand where You're coming from and appreciate Your opinion. As I've said previously, W/we are all entitled to O/our opinions. It is not required that W/we A/all agree. That's what makes this world so wonderful. As for warning others from doing as I did, that is entirely Your perogative and I respect it in all ways. I do wish You the best of days and the best of luck in finding what You seek.

slave jewel


No, I don't think you do understand where I am coming from. It wasn't just a vent, which I can understand and most people do on occassion. Your master approved this vent and and because he did, I would hold him accountable for what it says as much as I would you. You both believe what you said and most likely believed that other's would agree with you and therefore the rant/vent/emotional outburst was allowed. You BOTH believe all you said. A good rant or vent is understandable. A rant based on unreasonable expectations, personal opinion and name calling in a public forum is more than a rant/vent.

While I might or many might agree with some of the things you said, that doesn't even then make them correct for any person who says they are master or slave. Some may not use physical punishment and some slaves may be pampered in some ways, but to the slave and master with those dynamic's, they may truely be what they say they are to one another. What is a real slave? What is a real master? Some may agree or disagree but, really, who determines this?

Now... I think and believe strongly that a master/mistress shouldn't allow their personal frustrations to explode through their slave so that they catch hell for whatever the master/mistress believe and agree to and it is blamed on a vent the slave has. I think that is weak mastery. I wouldn't respect the rant coming from the master any more than the slave, but to know the master's view was hidden behind the slave's vent is rather... weak in my opinion.

You can disagree with me. No one has to agree with anyone. When we try to enforce our will upon people and expect them to live as we do, we are going to hit on something that is in error at some point. I can't expect you to live as I believe is correct and you don't see me here venting and calling people names and forcing myself upon others in such a way because they have a different view of what dynamic's, protocol or just how it is supposed to be according to me. Where you might hear me vent or something is where I find something someone is doing is dangerous in some way.

To see that you Both feel as you do, that your expectations are what they are and not getting them leads to a public vent, suggests to me that neither of you are someone I would encourage a friend to be involved with. Sooner or later any slave who does get involved with you will be subject to the immaturity and anger stemming from your expectations. To vent as you both agreed to, without balancing the vent out and being reasonable shows that you yourselves are not tempered and guided by that temperence. No matter what one thinks a master/mistress and slave to be, to show a lack of temperence in such a way suggests that you don't yet have what I believe makes a slave safe in being the type of slave you discribe in your vent.

So my objection is not only to your vent, but how you view many things and expect others to view and live by them and how you come across and what that might mean to others.

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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 9/30/2009 11:42:54 AM   
Lockit


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quote:

ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

quote:

Aren't you glad some people are nicer than I am?


Now, Lockit, don't make you spank me...
... hey, wait a minute



LOL... my morning brain is twisting that all up! But... I will go on what I think, I think you are saying! lol Okay... now I am doing it! lol

Throughout the time I have been here, you have always stood out to me and I thought you very beautiful in every way... so if I were to spanky spank a female... lol You would be one I would consider it with! CA is looking better and better by the day! hehe

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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 10/1/2009 10:30:56 AM   
LadyPact


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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 10/2/2009 9:43:32 PM   
WyldHrt


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Status: offline 		I wondered if you would add your personal experience there, LP! 

Lockit- *warm fuzzy* Thanks much for the compliments. I always have to clicky the linky when I see that you have posted on a thread, knowing that whatever it is, it won't be boring! I don't play with women often, but there are a few that I would most certainly take a spanky spank from, and that includes you.
Please do let us Cali based pervs know if CA starts looking good enough for a visit. I'm sure we can find a way to keep you entertained!

Did you know that we have cops out here with NO clue what an orgy is supposed to sound like??



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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 10/3/2009 8:22:25 PM   
cassidybrynn


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Status: offline 		Sounds like the Goddess got your number, slave.



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RE: So You Think You're A Slave - 10/3/2009 8:26:10 PM   
WyldHrt


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Status: offline 		Umm... was that to me, or the OP?

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